Problems with a new V7

[Redde]

Good Morning,

Just wondering if anyone can help? I bought the V7 yesterday and it shipped with an 18350 and 18650, and Nitecore charger.
No problems using it straight out of the box, and then I put both batteries on charge last night. The charger's reporting a full charge but when I put the batteries in and try to turn it on, nothing. I can't work it out. The Nitecore's supposed to be a solid set up. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks.

 

[Donz]

yo
I'm new to the vape world , can you help me with some info?
I would like to know which online stores u guys buy Vapes from?

cheeers

 

[djsvapour]

Did you monitor the charging or just leave them overnight?

What sort of batteries are they? (make, model, specifications?)

 

[Redde]

I left them overnight and they are Nitecore IMR 18650 30A 3.6V.

 

[djsvapour]

I left them overnight and they are Nitecore IMR 18650 30A 3.6V.

Only 2 possibles really.

1 - your Vamo has an issue.

2 - you have killed your batteries.

Neither is a very good scenario.

Have you got a multi meter? Does your charger display the voltage?

 

[Redde]

Yeah. I don't see how I could've killed the batteries by putting them on charge for a night. The Nitecore's supposed to be solid, and there are no switches or anything. Just put them in and charge, surely?
If it'sthe Vamo, that's just weak. It's only a day old. Second product from Myepack that's let me down and I don't have money to go and buy a multimeter. It never ends otherwise. I just wanted a decent set-up but it's been nothing but hassle. I'll go and see if I can find another battery. At least I'll know then.
Thanks.

 

[djsvapour]

I don't mean to preach, but you can certainly get unlucky and kill batteries by charging them overnight.

I did charge a pair once, accidentally, (Nitecore i2 charger) which didn't have a display and I was relieved the next day to find them rather hot but not dead.

Keep trying some combinations I guess (if you find some other batteries?). You might be able to work out that happened that way.

Good luck.

 

[cheech226]

can you test the bats in a flashlite or something?

 

[K_Tech]

Without some way to test the batteries, it's hard to say whether the problem lies with the batteries, the charger, or the mod. Is there a local vape shop you can take the mod to? I'd be willing to bet they've got a battery or two in use that they can lend you to test your mod out with, at least.

 

[Redde]

Have I missed something? Having never used rechargables, I assumed it would be like charging a phone overnight.
Reading the batteries, it mentions not to overcharge and to use the Nitecore charger. Is that what I've missed? That I'm supposed to 'pull' them off after a few hours?
I hope it is my own ineptitude here. I can swallow buying another battery but I'll be ...... if I have to send the mod back.
Still a bit strange, why have unprotected batteries?

 

[djsvapour]

As far as I know, you don't usually need to use the same charger brand as the battery.

Yours are rated at 3.6v which is kind of strange, but again, I have no experience. My Nitecore chargers stop charging when the battery reaches 4.2v. They have been known to continue charging, which is what may have happened... but it's only 1 possible.

The 'protection' built into a protected battery is not there solely to stop overcharging. It also stops a problem by short circuit and over-discharge.

These batteries are intended for use in devices that do not have built in electrical control.. like a torch for example.

We use unprotected as most mods have built in chips which don't like already protected batteries, for a number of reasons.

 

[Redde]

Thanks for taking the time to answer, mate.
After reading around, I now realize that the batteries we're using are completely different from other batteries. I've spent hours on forums looking at mods but didn't give batteries a second thought.
My Nitecore batteries were unprotected so I'm assuming I killed them. If that turns out to be the case, I was planning on buying decent protected batteries tomorrow. You've just mentioned, however, that mods prefer unprotected so now I'm confused again. Should I get unprotected and just make sure to always remove them from the charger after a couple of hours. Thanks again.

 

[djsvapour]

Thanks for taking the time to answer, mate.
After reading around, I now realize that the batteries we're using are completely different from other batteries. I've spent hours on forums looking at mods but didn't give batteries a second thought.
My Nitecore batteries were unprotected so I'm assuming I killed them. If that turns out to be the case, I was planning on buying decent protected batteries tomorrow. You've just mentioned, however, that mods prefer unprotected so now I'm confused again. Should I get unprotected and just make sure to always remove them from the charger after a couple of hours. Thanks again.

Here is my best effort..

On a mod with inbuilt electrical circuitry, you should only use unprotected batteries..

On a mechanical mod (one with no electrics) where it's just you and the battery touching two ends of a tube, you should only use IMR unprotected batteries.
Some people use a safety fuse too.

Usually, people link to a blog on here... I was just reading it on ebay...

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR? | eBay

 

[Redde]

I guess the Nitecore stops charging at 4.2V, but if you leave it overnight, that's enough to wreck the battery, which is what I did.
I think I've got it now and I'll try to get a new one tomorrow. It's difficult finding anywhere but online that sells them though.
One thing I've learnt is... always have a back-up mod
Thanks again. Have a good night.

 

[CoilinTrouble]

Lesson learned. Alot of chargers have a trickle charge effect that still slowly charges a battery even when its suppossed to be full. Additionally I.gotta ask, did your nightcore charger come packaged WITH the Vamo? Cuz I purchased a V6 some time ago and it came with a nitecore charger as well. However this "Nitecore" charger was actually a cheap imitation charger that just had a fake nitecore logo embedded on it. I'd suggest just forking out and make sure you get a great charger. For some time I was using my Sigelei 150 all day over 100 watts, so I was killing batteries left and right and started to have to go periods without vaping cuz I had to wait for a charged one. Eventually I forked out for the Nitecore Digi D4 and have never looked back since. Completely charges a dead-dead-DEAD battery in 3hrs, can charge up to 4 at a time, no trickle charge, each battery charges completely independently of each other, has auto shut off when reaches full capacity (and it actually works), LED display which tells me everything I need to know.bout the battery, and tons of other extras (but that list got long). Forkimg out that 40$ was the best thing I ever did for myself battery wise. The old adage proves true..."You get what you pay for..."