Proposed EU Tobacco Products Directive would ban sales of e-liquid and e-cigarettes with more than 4mg/ml of nicotine

[Bill Godshall]

EU Commission proposes tobacco Products Directive that would ban e-cigarette products containing more than 4mg/ml of nicotine, and would ban sales of e-cigarette products containing more than 2mg of nicotine (i.e. e-liquid).
http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/com_2012_788_en.pdf (see pages 9 & 38-40)
Tobacco - Revision of the Tobacco Products Directive | Public health , European Commission
Tobacco - Tobacco products | Public health , European Commission
EUROPA - PRESS RELEASES - Press Release - Tobacco products: towards bigger health warnings and ban of strong flavourings

 

[tommy2bad]

Worst case has come to pass, now we know exactly whats at stake we need to move against this.
This level of regulation is in effect an outright ban, their will be no market for anything that low and anything higher will be a NCT and less attractive to smokers. Especially with the modified health warnings attached to their high street cousins.
I would say that the prohibitionists have got their way but I fear that they are just a convenient fiction for parma protection.

 

[patkin]

operative word "proposed." I don't know the process there but I hope the anti-smokers don't come out in force to get it passed.

 

[DC2]

And so it begins...

 

[Bill Godshall]

Its time for EU e-cigarette consumers and companies to contact their EU representatives urging them to remove the e-cigarette provisions of the Tobacco Products Directive (or to increase the maximum amount of nicotine in e-cigarette products to 45 ml/mg and to 10 mg for e-liquid).

Need contact information for all EU commissioners.

Anti tobacco groups in the EU will urge EU commissioners to approve 100% of the proposed Tobacco Products Directive, but probably won't mention anything more about e-cigarettes (as they are going to concentrate their lobbying efforts on graphic warnings for cigarettes, on plain packaging for cigarettes, and on banning flavored tobacco products).

So if EU commissioners receive lots of complaints about the proposed nicotine limits for e-cigarette products (which is essentially a ban), they'll be more receptive to amending or removing those provisions.

 

[Roszam]

Its time for EU e-cigarette consumer and companies to contact their EU representatives urging them to remove the e-cigarette provisions of the Tobacco Products Directive (or to increase the maximum amount of nicotine in e-cigarette products to 45 ml/mg and to 10 mg for e-liquid).

Need contact information for all EU commissioners.

Anti tobacco groups in the EU will urge EU commissioners to approve 100% of the proposed Tobacco Products Directive, but probably won't mention anything more about e-cigarettes (as they are going to concentrate their lobbying efforts on graphic warnings for cigarettes, on plain packaging for cigarettes, and on banning flavored tobacco products).

So if EU commissioners receive lots of complaints about the proposed nicotine limits for e-cigarette products (which is essentially a ban), they'll be more receptive to amending or removing those provisions.

see link below. Contact info of each commissioner's spokesperson is available when one clicks on the commissioner's photo.

 

[hifistud]

 

[DC2]

Outstanding show in the post above mine, and every vaper on earth should watch it.

The FDA workshop, the British American Tobacco (BAT) purchase of Intellicig, the publication of the new EU Tobacco Directive...
The balls are rolling in many directions, and the battle for the future of electronic cigarettes has begun...

 

[MrsCasey]

Thank you for posting this hifistud. I think this is a video all Vapers should watch!

 

[Petrodus]

Thank you for posting this hifistud. I think this is a video all Vapers should watch!

We live in an electronic social media world.
Network the video via Facebook and with those in our electronic phone books.
History proves ... Social media pressure has resulted in banks changing their policies.
We've seen social media at the center of bringing down governments.
Food for Thought

 

[VapApe]

All I have at this end is a black box no vid. any one have a link?

 

[DC2]

All I have at this end is a black box no vid. any one have a link?

VT Talk 19-12 - The EU's 4MG proposition - YouTube

 

[VapApe]

Many thanks till your better paid

 

[Petrodus]

Many thanks till your better paid

Link to the YouTube: CLICK HERE

 

[Bill Godshall]

Some analyses of EU TPD and news stories. E-cigarette consumers and companies need to generate lots of calls, letters and visits to EU Commissioners, and more news coverage.

EU Commission's "Citizens' Summary" makes many false claims about proposed Tobacco Products Directive, including:
"The present revision will establish an ambitious and effective regulation of tobacco products."
"Citizens will be enabled to take informed decisions about the products and quitting if they so wish and thus benefit in terms of health."
"Current smokers will also benefit from the measures proposed in the Directive."
"The new rules allow products to move more easily across the internal market and take particular account of the specific needs of small and medium-sized companies."
"Citizens in all EU Member States should benefit from the same high standards for health and safety." "Ideally the new Directive will be adopted by the European Parliament and the Council in 2014."
http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/com_2012_788_citizens_summary_en.pdf

EU Commission falsely titles infographic about cigarette smoking "Tobacco in the EU" to deceive public about huge differences of risk between cigarette smoking and other types of tobacco use.
http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/tobacco_infograph.pdf

EU Commissioner Tonio Borg praises himself for proposing draconian Tobacco Products Directive that would kill millions of smokers by denying them legal access to far less hazardous smokefree alternatives.
http://www.independent.com.mt/artic...s-ban-on-snus-in-tobacco-directive-555843584/

Irish Labour MEP Nessa Childers praises inhumane EU Tobacco Products Directive proposal that would deny smokers legal access to far less hazardous smokefree alternatives.
MEP's will resist lobbying and will fight for strong EU tobacco law - Childers » Nessa Childers MEP » The Labour Party

Responding to the proposed EU Tobacco Products Directive, Philip Morris International correctly states:
"that many of the recommended measures will not achieve the Commission’s public health goals and will result in numerous unintended adverse consequences which appear to have been disregarded by its authors."
"the Commission’s proposal ignores the massive black market for tobacco products which already costs member states 10 billion euros annually, but advocates measures that will undoubtedly fuel its further growth." and
“In addition, the proposal would significantly limit consumer access to, and information about, products that have the very real potential to reduce the harm caused by conventional tobacco products. In doing this the Commission has chosen not only to stifle innovation but also to ignore the potential these products have to improve public health."
PMI.com News Release December 19, 2012

Alberto Alemanno: Towards a Revised European Tobacco Products Directive
Towards a Revised European Tobacco Products Directive - Publication of the Commission Proposal - Alberto Alemanno - Risk Regulation - EU Law - WTO

News articles on EU's unethical and inhumane Tobacco Products Directive proposal to kill cigarette smokers and e-cigarette consumers by denying them legal access to exponentially less hazardous smokefree alternatives.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1724fc26-49fb-11e2-8002-00144feab49a.html#axzz2FX6WPoo6
BBC News - EU plans tougher tobacco health warnings
Packets of ten and menthol cigarettes could be banned by EU as they bid to stop youngsters taking up the habit | Mail Online

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

It sounds like Big Pharma and this group set down and wrote this to assure BP that their income would not feel the effects of anything in it. Anything that might actually work is banned or neutered.

 

[Bill Godshall]

The fingerprints of drug companies and their funded prohibitionist groups (that claim to be public health groups) are all over the proposed EU Tobacco Products Directive.

But nobody should be surprised, as they've been exposing and boasting about details of the document during the past two months since Dalli resigned.

Please remember, however, this is proposed legislation, the process has a long way to go (several years), and it can be altered or rejected.

On the positive side, the proposed Tobacco Products Directive will cause sales of e-cigarettes and especially e-liquid to skyrocket even higher for the foreseeable future throughout Europe, as many vapers are going to start stocking up for the long haul just in case the Directive's e-cigarette and e-liquid prohibition policy is approved as proposed.

Back in 2008, the National Rifle Association started a rumor that gun sales would be banned in the US if Obama was elected President, which caused sales of guns and amunition to skyrocket. And in the past week (since the tragic killings of CT school children, and politicians talking about more gun control laws), gun sales in the US have skyrocketed once again.

A similar spike on e-cigarette and e-liquid sales is likely to occur in the US if/when the FDA proposes the "deeming" regulation to apply Chapter IX of the FSPTCA to e-cigarettes and e-liquid (unless the FDA exempts e-cigs from many different Chapter IX regs).

 

[tommy2bad]

While this is proposed legislation, here in Ireland it seems to have been well prepared for and fully intended to go through.
This went up today;
Public Consultation on a proposal for an EU Directive on the Tobacco Products Directive (TPD)


And hers the welcom anouncment from health minister James Reilly; Minister James Reilly welcomes the publication of a proposal for EU Directive on Tobacco.
Note the subtle lie as per usual,

The proposal seeks to regulate tobacco products in a way that reflects their specific characteristics (nicotine has addictive properties) and the negative consequences of their consumption (throat and lung cancer, cardiovascular problems etc).

 

[Vocalek]

That's not subtle.

This part is an overt lie: "and the negative consequences of their consumption (throat and lung cancer, cardiovascular problems etc). "

It's like saying "Drinking beverages leads to liver damage, traffic accidents, violence, and brain damage." (Ooops, all I did was leave out the word "alcoholic" before the word "beverages." My bad!)

 

[hifistud]