pros & cons of thinning Tobacco Absolute in PG or PGA?

[ournature]

I've seen it is suggested to thin pure TA (from PA) into 10ml of PG or Pure Grain Alcohol to make it flavour-ready.
Why would you use PG instead of PGA or viceversa?
i know thinning it in PGA it's easier (it mix faster), but are there other reasons to prefer one or the other diluent?

 

[woodman]

Could be someones personal preference or Convieniance(?)
I make some in both because I make some non PG juice TA flavored.
Having some preflavored in PG is handy to cut PG nic and know im not gonna go too far and overpower it. Then can add some pga/TA mix later if needed

 

[Switched]

The poop, the full poop and nothing but the poop?

To properly suspend TA requires PGA, full stop. At a ratio of 1 drop TA/5ml PGA.

There are many folks that can't get their hands on PGA and have used other methods such as PG etc... It juts does not suspend properly.

 

[ournature]

I have PGA, i use it for cleaning atties though, i added 2% PGA to one of my mixes once and i really could stand the alcoholic taste...
This is why i'm asking if it works with PG..
Switched, are you sure there's no way to suspend TA in PG properly?
Maybe half PG half PGA?

 

[AlexTM]

You can probably get away with a 1:10 TAGA mix, and go from there. Given that you'd not waste very much of either, give it a try. But any mix with PG will probably take a few days to suspend properly.

 

[Switched]

I have PGA, i use it for cleaning atties though, i added 2% PGA to one of my mixes once and i really could stand the alcoholic taste...
This is why i'm asking if it works with PG..
Switched, are you sure there's no way to suspend TA in PG properly?
Maybe half PG half PGA?

Unfortunately yes I am sure. There has been several posts wrt "growlies" in mixes etc (when used with PG or vodka, it definitely will not suspend properly in VG).

Cleaning atties with PGA is waste of good moonshine LOL. I use hot water and Isopropyl alcohol for that.

You only you one or two srops of TA/PGA mix per 3ml of juice which represents 0.015%. If you require more than that e.g mix it at a ratio of 2 drops TA to 5ml. There is no way IMHO and that of others that you should detect the PGA in your vape at that ratio???

 

[garyd]

I have successfully used PG with TA. The secret is after you make the mix boil some water, take off the stove and set your bottle (I use the amber dropper bottles) in the water for 5 minutes or so, then shake it up. This seems to disolve the TA into the PG very nicely. Anyway it worked for me.

 

[Switched]

I have successfully used PG with TA. The secret is after you make the mix boil some water, take off the stove and set your bottle (I use the amber dropper bottles) in the water for 5 minutes or so, then shake it up. This seems to disolve the TA into the PG very nicely. Anyway it worked for me.

Is it still in an amber bottle garyd?

 

[Dkrom68]

Well I use only PG for my Tobacco absolute mix and it works just fine with the mixes I make. Ive had no problems with it mixing and staying mixed in pure PG

 

[garyd]

Is it still in an amber bottle garyd?

Actually I used it up about a week or so ago. I did make a 6ml batch today using a clear plastic bottle using the same method. It came out just fine. The only reason I used this method was the first time I tried making my mix with the TA it looked like it had suspended particles in it, after heating the mix up with the hot water method and shaking well the so called particles disappeared. Give this method a try as it seems to work well.

 

[Switched]

Actually I used it up about a week or so ago. I did make a 6ml batch today using a clear plastic bottle using the same method. It came out just fine. The only reason I used this method was the first time I tried making my mix with the TA it looked like it had suspended particles in it, after heating the mix up with the hot water method and shaking well the so called particles disappeared. Give this method a try as it seems to work well.

I might give it a whirl someday.

 

[ournature]

thanks everybody for your comments,
i'll make a 5ml bottle with PG and 1 TA drop and see how it works, if it doesn't work will add 5ml PGA and another TA drop, if it still doesn't work will make a new one with just PGA

i really hope i can make it without alcohol as i really can taste-detect alcohol on chinese liquids (some of them have 5% ethanol) and i don't like that taste at all.

 

[Switched]

thanks everybody for your comments,
i'll make a 5ml bottle with PG and 1 TA drop and see how it works, if it doesn't work will add 5ml PGA and another TA drop, if it still doesn't work will make a new one with just PGA

i really hope i can make it without alcohol as i really can taste-detect alcohol on chinese liquids (some of them have 5% ethanol) and i don't like that taste at all.

Would you mind expanding on this?

 

[sanfordf]

You could start with the TA PGA 50/50 blend from PA. It is still gnarly stuff. I blend it in VG with my PG nic juice and a little PA flavor. Once I have it bottled, I swirl it (the bottle) in some nearly boiling water to force it to incorporate better. I shake it well before and after. Then I let it sit for at least a day before using.

PG and VG are types of alcohols (I think?).