Protected Batteries for Buzz Pro?

[hificat101]

I am going to be ordering a Buzz Pro in a month or so as soon as I can get caught up on some bills, and I was wondering if anyone has found any protected batteries that fit the Buzz, or if using protected bats would effect it's performance. I know I don't need protected bats for the Buzz Pro because of the circuitry and venting it has, but I also have a Prodigy v3. It recently occurred to me the 16340's the Buzz requires are aka 123a's that I can stack in my Prodigy to vape at 6V. I'd like to be able to multi task these bats, but my Prodigy is a straight mechanical mod with no protection.

The reason I'm asking is I have heard that 123a's can vary greatly in length.

Thanks

Chris

 

[mistinthewoods]

The Pro actually works best with the Powerizer batteries that Mike sells on the site. They're not protected but the circuitry in the Pros is better than what's in the end of the protected batteries anyway. You won't over drain them in the Pro. It'll shut off when they get to a point.

BTW, I get more than 24 hours out of those puppies.

 

[kempo63]

The Gray Ultrafire 16340's work well in the BP and are protected. Were the originals for the BP but I don't see them for sale on the Notcigs site anymore.

Like Mist said though, the Powerizers work best with almost double the run time as the protected ones. I was getting 6-8 hours from the Ultrafires, but get more than a day with the powerizers.

 

[BuzzKill]

tested as GOOD

AW 750 Mah black
Trustfire 1,000 mah white
Trusfire 880 mah darker blue

 

[5cardstud]

I used high drains, Ultrafires, Trustfires, Ththe ones Mike sells, and even some cheapo Ebay batts both protected and un-protected and the ones Mike sells are the best. The Pro has 5 way protection so the protected batteries really are overkill. It used to matter when people were blowing up unprotected mods and that's why if your using an un-protected mod you should use protected batteries but Notcig mods have built in protection. As soon as I need new batteries I want to get some of those 1000mah batts.

 

[hificat101]

" The Pro has 5 way protection so the protected batteries really are overkill."

Thanks all. As.I was saying, I'm not at all worried about needing protection in the Buzz Pro because of the great design. I'm just looking for something protected that will fit and work well in the BP that I can retask and also use in my Prodigy v3 which has no circuitry or protection of any kind.

I currently use 1 17670 in my Prodigy for 3.7v, but you can stack 2 RC123'S for 6v vaping. I figured if I need to get 123's, I may as well get ones that will work and fit in both devices.

 

[BuzzKill]

" The Pro has 5 way protection so the protected batteries really are overkill."

Thanks all. As.I was saying, I'm not at all worried about needing protection in the Buzz Pro because of the great design. I'm just looking for something protected that will fit and work well in the BP that I can retask and also use in my Prodigy v3 which has no circuitry or protection of any kind.

See above list , all protected types

 

[hificat101]

See above list , all protected types

Thanks Buzz. I wish you sold them so I could buy from you.

 

[cosmic charlie]

The 123a's are 3.2v but they won't last long in the, buzz 16340's are 3.7v and you're looking at 7.4v stacked so choose your Atty wisely.

 

[kempo63]

The 123a's are 3.2v but they won't last long in the, buzz 16340's are 3.7v and you're looking at 7.4v stacked so choose your Atty wisely.

Good Point Stanley, better off just buying seperate sets of batts for each mod.

 

[moorea]

+1 for buying seperate batteries for each mod. Not using the powerizers with the buzz pro is like not having jelly with your peanut butter. It is treat to use the powerizers and the buzz pro together.

 

[Duekster]

I don't like Jelly with Peanut Butter.

Why don't the standard Cr123a's last as long, the voltage Amp Hours?

The standard CR 123a are easy to find...

 

[BuzzKill]

I don't like Jelly with Peanut Butter.

Why don't the standard Cr123a's last as long, the voltage Amp Hours?

The standard CR 123a are easy to find...

A CR123 is a 3.0 volt battery a CR123A is a 3.7 volt battery !! a 16340 is the same size BUT is a 3.7 volt battery , all batts are NOT created EQUAL , we test them so we KNOW What is good and what is bad,.

 

[Duekster]

A CR123 is a 3.0 volt battery a CR123A is a 3.7 volt battery !! a 16340 is the same size BUT is a 3.7 volt battery , all batts are NOT created EQUAL , we test them so we KNOW What is good and what is bad,.

This Tenergy LiFePO4 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh Rechargeable Battery

Is an easy product to find, seems relatively safe per wiki.

It offers a great deal of cycles.

 

[Duekster]

one key advantage over other lithium-ion batteries is the superior thermal and chemical stability, which provides better safety characteristics than lithium-ion batteries with other cathode materials.[6] Due to significantly stronger bonds between the oxygen atoms in the phosphate (compared to the cobalt), oxygen is not readily released, and as a result, lithium iron phosphate cells are virtually incombustible in the event of mishandling during charge or discharge, and can handle high temperatures without decomposing.

Lithium iron phosphate battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reads to me that these are safer to pack and travel which is important when carrying spares on a plane or car.

 

[Duekster]

BTW, I think the Wiki link addresses the life issue.

"While LiFePO4 cells have lower voltage and energy density than LiCoO2 Li-ion cells, this disadvantage is offset over time by the slower rate of capacity loss (aka greater calendar-life) of LiFePO4 when compared with other lithium-ion battery chemistries (such as LiCoO2 cobalt or LiMn2O4 manganese spinel based lithium-ion polymer batteries or lithium-ion batteries)."

 

[Ruppy]

The problem with 3V batts is the stacked output is only 6V. With a hour it will drop below the minimum voltage requirement for the regulator and it will stop working. This makes them a poor choice for the BP and Ipro. Unless your OK with charging every hour I would stick to the 3.7V batts

You are right that LiFePO4 cells are more stable. However, Li-Ion cell failures are fairly rare when handled properly.

 

[Duekster]

The problem with 3V batts is the stacked output is only 6V. With a hour it will drop below the minimum voltage requirement for the regulator and it will stop working. This makes them a poor choice for the BP and Ipro. Unless your OK with charging every hour I would stick to the 3.7V batts

You are right that LiFePO4 cells are more stable. However, Li-Ion cell failures are fairly rare when handled properly.

That is the kind of info I was looking for. Thanks

 

[BuzzKill]

No failures to date ( bad or dead batts ) but that is IT !