protovapor xpv

[DavidOH]

Got shipping notice for my order #522 as well, also placed on 3/24.


Where do you get 2-1/2 months? Today's date is 5/22. That's less than two months.


Having used an XPV as my go-to mod since mid January (the new one I have coming is my second one) I think you'd regret that. I know I regret not having re-entered my order right away when my original order for a second/backup XPV (placed in mid-Feb) went into limbo for a week due to the website re-design that occurred right around then. If you cancel, maybe you'll find something that has a better combination of performance, usability, and value, that will ship sooner? If so, be sure to let us know what it is.

Yup I agree. Only 77 more. I'm getting there.

 

[xIce101x]

I'm order number 526 and just got my shipping notice this morning.

 

[DavidOH]

I'm order number 526 and just got my shipping notice this morning.

Make that 71 more.

 

[tuxracer]

order #507 recieved today black on black with a metallic silver button with my Fogger V4 that i received yesterday, all i can say is that with the coils i have on the Fogger (.76ohm) it will take 30 watts but it makes me think twice when i go to hit it, at 5.1v hitting it for 1.5seconds is plenty of vapor and very warm, i would normally hit the 6-8 second mark at 20 watts love the quality and service of Protovapor

 

[Christopher Fau]

Got shipping notice for my order #522 as well, also placed on 3/24.


Where do you get 2-1/2 months? Today's date is 5/22. That's less than two months.


Having used an XPV as my go-to mod since mid January (the new one I have coming is my second one) I think you'd regret that. I know I regret not having re-entered my order right away when my original order for a second/backup XPV (placed in mid-Feb) went into limbo for a week due to the website re-design that occurred right around then. If you cancel, maybe you'll find something that has a better combination of performance, usability, and value, that will ship sooner? If so, be sure to let us know what it is.

Sorry I calculated the date a little wrong. It just seems that a lot of BS has been coming from Protovapor during my waiting period. First they go on vacation and production ceases for a week...what the whole company went on the same vacation at the same time? That's poor planning when customer demand is this high. Instead of vacation they need to be working overtime training new employees to build these devices. Second they announce No Boards when they return from vacation so again...No Production, meanwhile every other company in the world (including China) has plenty of DNA Boards? I investigated, read and watched all the reviews about this device and thought long and hard where I was going to spend my 200+ dollars but now I am really beginning to have second thoughts with so many other nice options out there, most announced within the month and a half since I placed my order. I leave for vacation on June 6th and was really hoping to have this device with me by then but that's not looking too good at this point.

 

[xIce101x]

Sorry I calculated the date a little wrong. It just seems that a lot of BS has been coming from Protovapor during my waiting period. First they go on vacation and production ceases for a week...what the whole company went on the same vacation at the same time? That's poor planning when customer demand is this high. Instead of vacation they need to be working overtime training new employees to build these devices. Second they announce No Boards when they return from vacation so again...No Production, meanwhile every other company in the world (including China) has plenty of DNA Boards? I investigated, read and watched all the reviews about this device and thought long and hard where I was going to spend my 200+ dollars but now I am really beginning to have second thoughts with so many other nice options out there, most announced within the month and a half since I placed my order. I leave for vacation on June 6th and was really hoping to have this device with me by then but that's not looking too good at this point.

I got mine within the lead time. When I ordered they said 35-40 days lead. Then they said add 5 more days because they had no more boards. They shipped mine in 41 days of order.

 

[Rossum]

Sorry I calculated the date a little wrong. It just seems that a lot of BS has been coming from Protovapor during my waiting period. First they go on vacation and production ceases for a week...

Have you considered the possibility they went on vacation because they were out of DNAs and therefore couldn't make any more mods, but were expecting more DNAs to have arrived by the time they got back? Note, that's speculation; I don't have any inside info. I do however have a pretty good idea what the lead-time on DNA orders from Evolv is -- it happens to be in the same ballpark as Protovapor's back-log. Coincidence?

the whole company went on the same vacation at the same time?

How big do you think the whole company is? Owning a small business myself, seeing the order numbers, and being able to do basic math gives me the ability to make certain estimates in this regard.

Instead of vacation they need to be working overtime training new employees to build these devices.

Having an unlimited number of employees ready, willing, and able to build mods doesn't help at all if you can't get the parts.

Meanwhile every other company in the world (including China) has plenty of DNA Boards?

Do they? Then there should be other DNA mods you can buy for around $200 from stock right now, right?

I am really beginning to have second thoughts with so many other nice options out there, most announced within the month and a half since I placed my order.

OK, but which of them can you be sure you'll get before you leave on your vacation?

 

[Christopher Fau]

Have you considered the possibility they went on vacation because they were out of DNAs and therefore couldn't make any more mods, but were expecting more DNAs to have arrived by the time they got back? Note, that's speculation; I don't have any inside info. I do however have a pretty good idea what the lead-time on DNA orders from Evolv is -- it happens to be in the same ballpark as Protovapor's back-log. Coincidence?


How big do you think the whole company is? Owning a small business myself, seeing the order numbers, and being able to do basic math gives me the ability to make certain estimates in this regard.


Having an unlimited number of employees ready, willing, and able to build mods doesn't help at all if you can't get the parts.


Do they? Then there should be other DNA mods you can buy for around $200 from stock right now, right?


OK, but which of them can you be sure you'll get before you leave on your vacation?

I could have ordered a Hana, VaporShark or plenty of others at the same time and more than likely had it before my vacation. Hell I probably could have tracked down a ZEN ZNA by this point and had it in hand if I had been actively searching during this "Lead Time" Window. Also based on the Order #'s that are shipping just now Protovapor is going to blow way past the 30-45 day lead time quoted for my order, heck I'll be lucky to get mine by August at this point and I ordered April 12. Just saying this kind of "We make the best so you have to pay out the ... and wait for it" kind of attitude from these Elitist DNA Mod makers is a thing of the past now that there are 30+ watt devices coming out for under $100 from China and they are just as good of a vape quality.

 

[Boyd Reeds]

Really, what an XPV 30D amounts to, is a REAL DNA device, with a nicely designed control system, for about $100 more than a fake Hana V3. To me, it's well worth it. Good luck getting anywhere near a real Hana Modz V3 without going through a lot of crap, and a higher price tag than Protovapor's DNA mods. (especially if you have to resort to eBay to buy one off a mod flipper, which so many people who lust after Hana Modz end up doing) Have a look around the forums, and especially on Hana Modz facebook page. There are A LOT OF ANGRY CUSTOMERS.... especially now that Hana Modz has decided to begin suing loads of retailers for stocking Chinese made clones, bearing their logo. Hana Modz is killing it's own company, with poor planning, poor execution, and poor policy. Hana Modz could have stepped up their game a long time ago, investing in higher capacity manufacture, giving the ability to lower their price. But no, instead they decided to keep the price as high as possible, and throttle production time, well below demand. Protovapor is just getting started making mods. I'm sure that once they are able, they will increase production capacity, and reduce wait. at least i hope they do. otherwise they will just be another casualty of Chinese manufacturing domination.

 

[jkhtx]

Sigh, #715 here. Was hoping to have it this summer, but looking at this thread makes me pretty pessimistic about that. They said 40-45 business days, so that would mean with the delay I should see it mid July. I sure hope so, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. I was debating between this and the Vaporshark, and I just didn't want a 30 watt device with a 1200 mah battery. The XPV seemed better built, more unique, and just nicer all around. Sucks waiting though, especially if it ends up going past lead time.

 

[Mattnatti]

@Christopher Fau, email Protovapor and cancel your order. Tell them I will send them money to buy your spot.


thoughts on the XPV 30 I bought a couple of weeks ago from the CL link Boyd shared.
Still don't vape more than 14-14.5w so the 30 doesn't really interest me.
The 2600mah battery though. Thumbs down.
The 2900 is much more robust than the 2600. At least the batteries I have.

Going to to be sticking with the 20's from here on out. Hopefully they will continue and the 2900 battery as options.

 

[t8kiteasy]

All right come on everyone that is complaining about waiting I am going to say this,clearly,one last time.
I got in on the Precise ELA pre-order(I was one of the first 50 to pre-order)and waited exactly seven months and one day shy of two full weeks.On a MOD that was supposed to have a lead time of 6-8 weeks.Just like on the Precise thread everyone who received there MOD/MOD's(two per order)posted they would not be disappointed with the wait once they had there MOD in hand.Well,you will not be disappointed with the XPV either and this wait time is nothing for one of only 2-3 DNA30 MOD's available right now??

 

[Boyd Reeds]

I would 1000% rather be dealing with the honest, and genuine folks at Protovapor, than the folks at Hana Modz, for their overrated mods.... I considered a Hana Modz full size, before ordering from Protovapor, but after A LOT of research, Protovapor was the obvious, and ONLY choice, out of the 12 or so DNA powered mod makers.... I don't have any regrets, placing my order with Protovapor. I just hope the wait isn't still a month ahead. (order# 605/606 placed April 8th)

 

[Boyd Reeds]

Since I have a bit to wait yet, I decided to download the image from Protovapor that shows a similar design scheme to what mine will look like, but has an orange button. I edited the image in photoshop, making the button safety yellow. Now it looks EXACTLY LIKE MINE will.. I made the image my desktop wallpaper, so that I can be reminded every day, why the wait will be worth my time, and money.

 

[Christopher Fau]

Sigh, #715 here. Was hoping to have it this summer, but looking at this thread makes me pretty pessimistic about that. They said 40-45 business days, so that would mean with the delay I should see it mid July. I sure hope so, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. I was debating between this and the Vaporshark, and I just didn't want a 30 watt device with a 1200 mah battery. The XPV seemed better built, more unique, and just nicer all around. Sucks waiting though, especially if it ends up going past lead time.

The complaint about the VaporShark 1200 mah battery is NULL!! Everyone is comparing different battery technologies, the VaporShark uses a 1200 mah Lithium Polymer battery while the ProtoVapor and most other DNA's use the standard 18650 Lithium Ion battery chemistry and there is a big difference in their output amps and voltage drop. The LiPo batteries used in the VaporShark are far superior to any of those crappy 18650 LiIon batteries being used by most vapors. The only thing is the LiPo batteries have to be used in a regulated device so they haven't gained in popularity like the LiIon's which everyone uses in their Mech Mods because of the safety features they have.

 

[Rossum]

It's getting really hard to take you seriously. There are several of us here who own both a Vaporshark DNA and an XPV. Can the Vaporshark's 1200 mAh battery push the full 30 watts through a DNA? Yes it can. It's an awesome little battery, but in the end, it still only a 1200 mAh battery that lasts less than half as long as the VTC5 used in the 30 watt version of the XPV when both are run at the same power levels.

 

[t8kiteasy]

Man,...I was hoping to get shipping notice early this morning since two have got there notices and ordered only two days before me.No such luck though,i guess the order numbers do not necessarily equate to the order in which they are made???

 

[DrHermie]

I'm order number 526 and just got my shipping notice this morning.

OMG only 20 more orders to go!!!! Can't wait! Can't wait!!

 

[Christopher Fau]

It's getting really hard to take you seriously. There are several of us here who own both a Vaporshark DNA and an XPV. Can the Vaporshark's 1200 mAh battery push the full 30 watts through a DNA? Yes it can. It's an awesome little battery, but in the end, it still only a 1200 mAh battery that lasts less than half as long as the VTC5 used in the 30 watt version of the XPV when both are run at the same power levels.

I've read and seen plenty of reviews that state the VaporShark with it's 1200mah LiPo battery can get a full day of moderate vaping and I'm good with that. Plus I've not heard of any terrible instances of customer service coming from VaporShark so I'd say the whole "Protovapor has the Best Customer Service In the World" argument that everyone is throwing around is Mute! How long does your XPV with the VTC5 last on average? `Don't know why I'm getting so hard to take seriously, I think I bring up some valid points. It's completely possible that a 1200mah LiPo battery with it's superior cell chemistry will last close too the time of a inferior LiIon 2600mah battery...?

 

[Rossum]

How long does your XPV with the VTC5 last on average?

Well, my XPV is a DNA20 with a 2900 mAh Panasonic NCR18650PF, not a DNA 30 with 2600 mAh VTC5 (a battery that didn't even exist at the time I got my XPV). I do have some VTC5s, but I reserve them for my mechs. My Vaporshark is also a DNA20, which uses the same Turnigy battery that the DNA30 version does. I typically run both (and my Hana, which also has an NCR18650PF in it) at between 10 and 12 watts, with KFL+/R91 atties on them. There's no way I could make it through a whole day using the Vaporshark exclusively without putting some top-off charge into it at some point; I tested this when I first got the Vaporshark. With the XPV, that's no problem, it will make it the whole day and well into the next. Bottom line: I can turn more than twice as much juice into vapor with a fully charged XPV than I can with a fully charged VS. Note this doesn't mean I'm dissing the Vaporshark. It's a cool little mod. But if I had to be away from power for a whole day and could take only one mod, it sure wouldn't be the Vaporshark

It's completely possible that a 1200mah LiPo battery with it's superior cell chemistry will last close too the time of a inferior LiIon 2600mah battery...?

No it isn't. If it were, then the rating on one of those batteries would be off by a factor of two. The Turnigy battery's claim to fame is its 15C rating (18 Amps!) in a small, light-weight form factor; it doesn't pretend that it can store as much energy as a larger, heavier 18650. Think about it this way, if that were possible, someone would be making $3 adapters so people could use the $3 Turnigy instead of a $10-$12 18650 in 18560 mods.