Provari, LavaTube, or Vmax...nope!
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I remember the PENTIUM: Processor Exists Now, Though It Usually Melts
The xbox 360 Red Ring Of Death
The Toyota gas pedal
always wait. Besides like I said in an earlier post, the price always drops as production ramps up. When you buy a product when it first comes out you are PAYtesting it. Nor do you want to buy a product that has been out for a really long time and the price doesn't drop considerably either. By then you will be in a situation where you are overpaying and then something new's gonna drop and you're stuck like Chuck.
I bought a couple of Vmax's, V1 and V2.
Needless to say I'm not overly fond of Smoktech right at the moment - lesson learnt!
I decided to wait around. Any chance someone will turn it over and put the atomizer connection where it's supposed to be? Basically
make a Twist that may (or may not) have a more precise regulator and takes a bigger battery, and I'll buy
screen and a multimeter would be a plus, but if it's not blue, don't bother putting it on there.
I don't know if reviews will be available for at least a week or so is the VERSA shipped for the first time this week. I'll let you know when I get mine this week! I have no wories about buying it because VaporBeast stands behind everything they sell! I've bought enough stuff to feel very good about my purchase.
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I don't like the way the VERSA looks (like an ugly Darwin). Besides, with on 2.2 amps you'd be better off getting just about any other APV on the market. For the record, I talked to my buddy Bill (the owner of DarkCityVapor) and he is getting APVs exactly like those to sell. I tried to talk him out of it but he wouldn't listen, but that's besides the point. His will be WAY cheaper than those VERSAs and probably have the same stats. The price of the VERSA is ridiculous for what you get IMO.
I am so glad to hear someone say that about the vmax!! It was amazing compared to a small ecig battery (smaller than ego), but then bought two Provari, and well...you know the rest.
I call nearly 300% a major margin. A $1500 investment for 50 of these devices in a nation that has sold literally millions upon millions of ecigs last year is hardly risky.
Those selfsame lavatube clone wannabes sell for $30 in China. Maybe you should visit Alibaba.com before you deem that what you are saying is 100% truth. $89 for a cheap (as low as) $30 product goes down in my book as a complete ripoff...
Call it a VERSA, call it a Lavatube, call it Sheila; it's the same stats with a different description (minus the shutoff times, which could be a simple case of mistranslation). I literally couldn't pay you to be more mistaken. Oh and the one I'm about to link is 18500 batteries (1500 mah compared to the somehow 18500 with 1400mah batteries the VERSA has) for a maximum of $38 which only confirms that the VERSA is closer to the $30 price since the VERSA has a weaker battery.
Getting extra stuff doesn't reduce the price it just gives you extra stuff, and in this case, FREE STUFF (from the original equipment manufacturer) nonetheless. It still costs $89 (for a less than $30 investment. It's a ripoff) out of your credit card/bank account. Besides, I have advocated for the Vivi Nova in the past but now the E1-V is better and it's not half as ugly and it comes with the adapter you need to make it streamline an EGO Twist for free. Get with the program, buddy. The difference between the VERSA and the "lavatube" I am posting is a little bit of shipping (which dollars or pounds to the chinese yuan are not even comparable thanks to American politics of outsourcing manufacturing jobs while generating a currency war, but that's another story) and a 2 week wait while it arrives by boat.
Proof here:
2012 New Variable Voltage Cigarettes Lava Tube - Buy Powerful Technique Lava Tube,Lava Tube Mod,E Cigarette Product on Alibaba.com
Before you go believing that American companies are so awesome please take a look at their source and reveal the fact that they are just re-wrapping a product as their own and making a ton of money off of you. At the end of the day that is what businesses are designed to do. They are amoral profit generatiing machines that make their fortunes off the backs of everyone else. (History lesson warning!) It is for that very reason that in Feudal Japan merchants were considered the second lowest class of people (entertainers, prostitutes, day laborers and servants, and the thieves, beggars and hereditary outcasts were the lowest) for they did very little for their money. Even though they were often richer than classes above them, they had no political power and their marriage into higher classes (to gain upward mobility) was highly policed. I think (personally), in this, the Japanese were right.
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You have an almost 1 in 3 chance of your Vmax going wrong.
They're pretty lousy odds.
If a vendor is giving you "free stuff" and that "free stuff" has sufficient value, the purchase can be considered a good value! As an example, many will purchase a Provari, then buy batteries, extendtion cap, and charger sepretly; or one can buy the Provari/device separately and pay less! When more products are added to the mix, value is added, especially for those that consider what it costs to buy separately! Also the ViviNova VaporBeast gives is not from the original equipment supplier! For MY needs, that adds values!
Also, if a vender has a $45.00 total investment, selling somthing for $90.00 is a reasonable rate of return. Let's say This product was bought for $36.00 the vendor pays shipping from china, add $5.00 per device! Vendor gives a VivaNova tank $13.00. Vendor pays shipping to me the customer $8.00. That = $62.00 give or take. If the vendor sells for $89.00 that is FAR from a rip-off! It's also NOT A 300% markup as you say! That is what is needed to keep a business operating in most instances! For those who have not operated a business, that concept may be foreign. Maybe you do not understand gross vs net profit? Consider the tremendous expenses a business has! Inventory cost, shipping, labor, credit card fees, advertising, hosting fees and the list goes on! 8 of 10 small businesses fail, so operating any business has risks accociated with it, even in the competitive world of PV's! Find me any business owner that says otherwise!
To say their is no risk for a vender buying these e-cigs completely unfair. When a vendor brings in a new product they can not be sure of it's success! What's hot one day is obsolete the next! The reseller must manage inventory and potential risk! I would say from talking with a small sampling of e-cig business, most don't even start making a living for the first year or so!
I own a Provari and paid about $300.00 for everything I needed to get started! Was that a ripoff? No, for me it was a good but expensive investment.
Also, if a vender has a $45.00 total investment, selling somthing for $90.00 is a reasonable rate of return. Let's say This product was bought for $36.00 the vendor pays shipping from china, add $5.00 per device! Vendor gives a VivaNova tank $13.00. Vendor pays shipping to me the customer $8.00. That = $62.00 give or take. If the vendor sells for $89.00 that is FAR from a rip-off! It's also NOT A 300% markup as you say! That is what is needed to keep a business operating in most instances! For those who have not operated a business, that concept may be foreign. Maybe you do not understand gross vs net profit? Consider the tremendous expenses a business has! Inventory cost, shipping, labor, credit card fees, advertising, hosting fees and the list goes on! 8 of 10 small businesses fail, so operating any business has risks accociated with it, even in the competitive world of PV's! Find me any business owner that says otherwise!
To say their is no risk for a vender buying these e-cigs completely unfair. When a vendor brings in a new product they can not be sure of it's success! What's hot one day is obsolete the next! The reseller must manage inventory and potential risk! I would say from talking with a small sampling of e-cig business, most don't even start making a living for the first year or so!
I own a Provari and paid about $300.00 for everything I needed to get started! Was that a ripoff? No, for me it was a good but expensive investment.
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If you have a ProVari then I really don't know why you'd buy one of these things - if your ProVari was Megan Fox then this is Sarah Jessica Parker.
It's made by a company called ALD whom I've never heard of, what's to say it's not another Vision Tox?
It's made by a company called ALD whom I've never heard of, what's to say it's not another Vision Tox?
Because I LIKE IT! Not every mod in my collection is "Megan Fox", nor does it need to be! 
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That's what happened to me. Mine was bad right out of the gate. I spent $128 and have nothing to show for it. I'm still waiting for my replacement 10 days later.
LOL at the Sarah Jessica Parker joke!
Dear Hottoddy. Let me give you another example as to why we are so far apart from agreeing here. You can get a Joyetech EGO Twist from China for around 15 bucks yet you can buy them at altsmoke for $27 (for the 1000mah). That's not even doubling your money. What is the risk when EGO Twists sell like hotcakes to an addicted and captive audience? It's like taking candy from a baby. What was it? 3.5 million ecigs sold last year in America? How many of those were the same customers? How many of them bought another ecig this year?
Also, the Vivi Nova that comes with the versa (as an added value) comes from the original equipment manufacturer of the VERSA for $30, so it's not at added value, that's them making $56. I'd rather see the versa at about a $60 price range to make it worthwhile. Plus you maybe didn't look at the batteries but those are far from quality trustfires or AW IMRs. I'd rather buy my batteries separate so I know that only quality goes into them.
Dear Hottoddy. Let me give you another example as to why we are so far apart from agreeing here. You can get a Joyetech EGO Twist from China for around 15 bucks yet you can buy them at altsmoke for $27 (for the 1000mah). That's not even doubling your money. What is the risk when EGO Twists sell like hotcakes to an addicted and captive audience? It's like taking candy from a baby. What was it? 3.5 million ecigs sold last year in America? How many of those were the same customers? How many of them bought another ecig this year?
Also, the Vivi Nova that comes with the versa (as an added value) comes from the original equipment manufacturer of the VERSA for $30, so it's not at added value, that's them making $56. I'd rather see the versa at about a $60 price range to make it worthwhile. Plus you maybe didn't look at the batteries but those are far from quality trustfires or AW IMRs. I'd rather buy my batteries separate so I know that only quality goes into them.
If you think the price is a problem, start a co-op. I have no problem with stores making money by allowing me to purchase 1 of something instead of 50, especially if they stand behind what they sell and offer replacements for DOA stuff…which people say vaporbeast does.
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