Provari or quality mechanical mod....which one? Help!

[dice57]

Start out with a quality regulated mod for safe vaping. Then if you want to go rba or rda, re-buildable atomizers and drippers, you will have the power and ability to do so, and then if you want to go mech, you'll have some decent building skills and the on board ohm meter on the regulated device, and can explore mech world too. Nothing wrong with having both, or several of both. The more one vapes the more we want to know and explore other options and styles of vape. I have several mechs and several regulated, the Provari being one of them. Fine device, dependable and well built. But finding that after vaping for 9 months, and learning a lot about everything, well everything I'm interested in that is. lol, the Provari has become mainly a back up device, it is now a tad bit underpowered for me. Still use it, but not as much as my other mods. Am so glad I chose the Provari as my first mod, it has stood me well in my journey and exploration of the Vape World.

Chances are, no matter what you decide to buy, you'll never be satisfied with just one. lmao. Have to start your collection somewhere. Compare, decide, find best price, click add to cart, then click on checkout. Vape, learn, build, then start the search again.

When I decided to go with a high end Mechanical mod, I searched and compared for days before finding the one for me. I do this with most every piece of Vape gear I buy. Only found a couple things that I didn't hesitate to buy, because I knew I had to have that item.

 

[VaporDragon]

I have to agree with an earlier post. I have 12 different mods at the moment and the two that I use the most are the ProVari and an hcigar nemesis clone with a kick and sometimes without a kick when I'm playing around with sub ohm builds. The ProVari is built like a tank and is very reliable.

 

[supersport13]

I have to agree with an earlier post. I have 12 different mods at the moment and the two that I use the most are the ProVari and an hcigar nemesis clone with a kick and sometimes without a kick when I'm playing around with sub ohm builds. The ProVari is built like a tank and is very reliable.

Well, once my return comes I am for sure going with the Provari! I just got a Smoktech Magneto about an hour ago in the mail. I can't wait to try it, but I need to buy a battery. I was looking up some info on the Kick. I like the safety features it adds to mechanical mods, but does it keep battery output regulated like a Provari does, so that the last hit is still as strong as the first? That's one feature that I can't wait to experience with the Provari! I hate getting a weaker vape as battery life decreases.

 

[VaporDragon]

Well, once my return comes I am for sure going with the Provari! I just got a Smoktech Magneto about an hour ago in the mail. I can't wait to try it, but I need to buy a battery. I was looking up some info on the Kick. I like the safety features it adds to mechanical mods, but does it keep battery output regulated like a Provari does, so that the last hit is still as strong as the first? That's one feature that I can't wait to experience with the Provari! I hate getting a weaker vape as battery life decreases.

Then you definitely need a ProVari. The kick does regulate power. It's variable wattage. But it does have a noticeable drop-off in power as the battery gets low. The only mod I've found that hits just as hard from full battery to dead is the ProVari.

 

[Asmo6]

Hello all! So tax return time is coming and I want to get a quality device with way more power as I am currently using an ego twist with a Protank. So I have been reading and reading....and reading about the Provari as well as mechanical mods. So many people have so many opinions about which one they like best. I need durability, consistency, and for it to look good. It seems to me that a mechanical mod would be nice for the fact that it can vape subohms (huge clouds), but as you vape away doesn't your battery life drain and cause it to hit weaker? From what I've read, this wouldn't be an issue with the Provari as it keeps the same voltage until the battery dies. I was totally going to go the Provari route, but then after reading the mech mod lovers opinions....I'm on the fence. I know some of you have had to be in the same place as I am at one time or another...what did you go with and are you happy with your choice? Maybe I just need to get both...any help would be much appreciated. Thanks....

Here's what I have so far. And then I will explain my logic as to getting what I did.

itaste VV3 (I have 2)
Vision spinner (teeeny one, the 400mah)
Nemesis (clone)

I like the VV/VW mods. I saw no point in the mechanicals as at first glance they seem to offer less for more cost. They do everything for you as well (if you go variable wattage). But the mechanical and the provari is what you really want compared so, here is my thoughts.

Cost;
Provari has a reputation for lasting long enough to get your money back out of it. But it 'taint cheap.

A basic nemesis clone is $28-40. (But you could easily sub in a K100, 101, sentinel, king... etc.)

You will be into real batteries and chargers on both. If you buy GOOD batteries, you can push far far past the limits of the provari if you really want to dabble in the sub ohm, or higher wattage playground. The Provari has a 3.5 amp limit on the switch. A Sony or decent EFEST 18650 is 30amps +.

Theoretically when the Provari shuts the fun off around 15W. The mech will allow you to push out... 50. No comparison on raw output. The Provari or similar VV/VW mod other than the DNA's just doesn't bring the same amount of oomph.

A mech mod doesn't really break. It's a tube and a switch assuming you don't physically damage it. I can't see you doing much but wearing out the 510 thread by being an idiot.

The provari will check ohms, adjust voltage, and allow you to swap heads - and get the same vape experience regardless. The mech will come off the charger spitting out 4.2v and taper off.

BUT; with rebuildables, this doesn't REALLY matter. Wind a fairly 'tame' by today's standards 1ohm coil, and you will be hard pressed to get an 'unsatisfying' vape experience throughout the voltage range. The downside is that you have to see when that battery is getting low. Some variety of volt meter or measuring device needs to be employed.

So nod to the provari for ease of use. But the mech, with a little bit of noggin' power and forethought... can do what it can do on a decent RDA. Put your 2.6ohm heads on it though... blah. Forget it. Provari wins that one hands down.

The other thing is that a kick 2 is about $40-50. Drop it in the mech mod, and you have 15W adj wattage. Want to build a quintuple coil .0001 ohm fogging machine? Pop it back out. (humor... please don't do this.)

There's more thinking involved in the mech mods. But more capability. I went with an inexpensive VV/VW mod that would suit my daily needs, and a back up. And then once my rear end was covered. Why not do a mech? It doesn't matter if it's a pain. I'm GOOD anyway.

The final pro's con's depend on your priorities.

The safety factor of the mech mod gave me some pause initially as well. But it's honestly not hard to deal with. And I'm SO SO SO new to all of this.

If you end up dropping the cash on the Provari, I don't think you'll regret it. If a lot of thinkin' isn't for you. The mech mod may very well be something you don't enjoy. But if you genuinely want to swim in the deeper end of the pool. The Provari will not get you past the 5ft line.

 

[Shreck]

Then you definitely need a ProVari. The kick does regulate power. It's variable wattage. But it does have a noticeable drop-off in power as the battery gets low. The only mod I've found that hits just as hard from full battery to dead is the ProVari.

The kick does indeed regulate power, and acts as a safety type fuse at the same time so your not going to end up with the thermal runaway that Batitude had mentioned earlier.
The kick will give you the same power consistently until the battery has been exhausted enough that it just wont fire the mod any longer.

Evolv LLC - Kick Instructions

^^^Straight from the horses mouth ^^^

 

[Shreck]

Here's what I have so far. And then I will explain my logic as to getting what I did.

itaste VV3 (I have 2)
Vision spinner (teeeny one, the 400mah)
Nemesis (clone)

I like the VV/VW mods. I saw no point in the mechanicals as at first glance they seem to offer less for more cost. They do everything for you as well (if you go variable wattage). But the mechanical and the provari is what you really want compared so, here is my thoughts.

Cost;
Provari has a reputation for lasting long enough to get your money back out of it. But it 'taint cheap.

A basic nemesis clone is $28-40. (But you could easily sub in a K100, 101, sentinel, king... etc.)

You will be into real batteries and chargers on both. If you buy GOOD batteries, you can push far far past the limits of the provari if you really want to dabble in the sub ohm, or higher wattage playground. The Provari has a 3.5 amp limit on the switch. A Sony or decent EFEST 18650 is 30amps +.

Theoretically when the Provari shuts the fun off around 15W. The mech will allow you to push out... 50. No comparison on raw output. The Provari or similar VV/VW mod other than the DNA's just doesn't bring the same amount of oomph.

A mech mod doesn't really break. It's a tube and a switch assuming you don't physically damage it. I can't see you doing much but wearing out the 510 thread by being an idiot.

The provari will check ohms, adjust voltage, and allow you to swap heads - and get the same vape experience regardless. The mech will come off the charger spitting out 4.2v and taper off.

BUT; with rebuildables, this doesn't REALLY matter. Wind a fairly 'tame' by today's standards 1ohm coil, and you will be hard pressed to get an 'unsatisfying' vape experience throughout the voltage range. The downside is that you have to see when that battery is getting low. Some variety of volt meter or measuring device needs to be employed.

So nod to the provari for ease of use. But the mech, with a little bit of noggin' power and forethought... can do what it can do on a decent RDA. Put your 2.6ohm heads on it though... blah. Forget it. Provari wins that one hands down.

The other thing is that a kick 2 is about $40-50. Drop it in the mech mod, and you have 15W adj wattage. Want to build a quintuple coil .0001 ohm fogging machine? Pop it back out. (humor... please don't do this.)

There's more thinking involved in the mech mods. But more capability. I went with an inexpensive VV/VW mod that would suit my daily needs, and a back up. And then once my rear end was covered. Why not do a mech? It doesn't matter if it's a pain. I'm GOOD anyway.

The final pro's con's depend on your priorities.

The safety factor of the mech mod gave me some pause initially as well. But it's honestly not hard to deal with. And I'm SO SO SO new to all of this.

If you end up dropping the cash on the Provari, I don't think you'll regret it. If a lot of thinkin' isn't for you. The mech mod may very well be something you don't enjoy. But if you genuinely want to swim in the deeper end of the pool. The Provari will not get you past the 5ft line.

Very good info here, Asmo6 has been doing his homework.

 

[VaporDragon]

The kick does indeed regulate power, and acts as a safety type fuse at the same time so your not going to end up with the thermal runaway that Batitude had mentioned earlier.
The kick will give you the same power consistently until the battery has been exhausted enough that it just wont fire the mod any longer.

Evolv LLC - Kick Instructions

^^^Straight from the horses mouth ^^^

I believe that's what I said. I said it DOES regulate power. And I can feel the difference between a full battery and one that's almost dead when using a kick. Where do I get that from? Owning it, and using it. I can see why you don't post often.

 

[Shreck]

Wow.. sorry I misread your post and I have changed my post to reflect that. Have you actually been using a real kick, or a aftermarket clone. I have and have used both, and can tell the difference.

 

[VaporDragon]

No worries. Were good. I have used a smok kick and the evolv kick. I do notice more of a rattlesnake noise from the clone and the power drop-off over battery life is more noticeable in the clone. Don't get me wrong the evolv kick is good at keeping the power consistent throughout battery life. But I do notice a small actually very small but noticeable if you have been vaping enough to tell the difference drop off when the battery is almost depleted. It is a very viable option but I am just trying to share my experience and from experience the only mod I have personally used that gives you the same hit no matter the battery charge is the ProVari. I mean, there is a reason they cost so much.

 

[MaesVap]

If you want to play around : Provari, Dani dicodes, Semovar , any device with a DNA on it.

If you will stay on the same range ... get a mechanic and a Kick they work great ... if you do not want to notice the "rattlesnake"on a kick, get the Evolv Kick 2.

 

[VaporDragon]

If I were in your shoes and I knew what I know now, here's what I would do. Get a ProVari and use that for my out and about device that I can use tanks on. I would also get a nemesis clone with an evolv kick 2 to use around the house for dripping and my rba's that may require a little more power. Then I would have a nice RELIABLE mod for when I'm away from home and a hard hitting fully adjustable mechanical for playing around with. Or heck, you could just do like I do and have a case of mods and toppers and batteries and juice that I take with me everywhere in the car so that I'm never without at least one thing I can get my nicotine from. Lol

 

[Asmo6]

Very good info here, Asmo6 has been doing his homework.

I am a studious .....

But seriously personally weighed a lot of these options as well since I am so new I had no idea what direction I wanted to go. Already having a VW mod. The 'high end' VW stuff was out. I don't need another. And if I'm going to do one, the only one worth stepping up to is the DNA 30.

(to me)

And I'd just buy the board, and build something at that point.

 

[edyle]

Hello all! So tax return time is coming and I want to get a quality device with way more power as I am currently using an ego twist with a Protank. So I have been reading and reading....and reading about the Provari as well as mechanical mods. So many people have so many opinions about which one they like best. I need durability, consistency, and for it to look good. It seems to me that a mechanical mod would be nice for the fact that it can vape subohms (huge clouds), but as you vape away doesn't your battery life drain and cause it to hit weaker? From what I've read, this wouldn't be an issue with the Provari as it keeps the same voltage until the battery dies. I was totally going to go the Provari route, but then after reading the mech mod lovers opinions....I'm on the fence. I know some of you have had to be in the same place as I am at one time or another...what did you go with and are you happy with your choice? Maybe I just need to get both...any help would be much appreciated. Thanks....

A mech is really supposed to be a simple device; it really ought not to be expensive; it is really for advanced users - it does not have the standard built in protections and features;

I vote for the pro.

 

[dice57]

Then you definitely need a ProVari. The kick does regulate power. It's variable wattage. But it does have a noticeable drop-off in power as the battery gets low. The only mod I've found that hits just as hard from full battery to dead is the ProVari.

Totally disagree with the above, the Evolv kick 2 supplies as consistent of a vape as the Provari, till the batter gets down to about 3.2 volts, then it stops working. The kick 2 has better power management than the original or clones, puts out up to 15 watts, and will accept build as low as .5 ohms, the perfect match for a mech and will get you safely into builds and the sub ohm zone. The Provari stops working at about 3.5 volts, so actually get a longer sustained vape with a kick 2 than a Provari imho.

 

[VaporDragon]

Totally disagree with the above, the Evolv kick 2 supplies as consistent of a vape as the Provari, till the batter gets down to about 3.2 volts, then it stops working. The kick 2 has better power management than the original or clones, puts out up to 15 watts, and will accept build as low as .5 ohms, the perfect match for a mech and will get you safely into builds and the sub ohm zone. The Provari stops working at about 3.5 volts, so actually get a longer sustained vape with a kick 2 than a Provari imho.

Well I did say the only thing that I've found. I have yet to use a kick 2. So I don't see what I said that you "totally disagree with". And my ProVari works down to about 3.2 volts left on the battery. I don't know what kind of ProVari you have or if you've even used one but I have a mini 2.5.

 

[jball49]

NexGen Vapor | The Utimate DNA 30 Ecig

This does look amazing. Do you have one? If not have you talked to others that have used it? If the reliability is good, this would be very much preferable to me over a ProVari, granted it costs more but with the wide variation of output this has, can't imagine what else would be better for my needs.

 

[ZeroOhms]

I will keep it simple.
ProVari (you control the voltage) > Clearomizer/Cartomizer (fixed resistance)
Mech mod (fixed voltage) > RBA/RDA (you control the resistance)

There are variations and exceptions to this, but these are pretty common ways to match them up.

 

[edyle]

Well I did say the only thing that I've found. I have yet to use a kick 2. So I don't see what I said that you "totally disagree with". And my ProVari works down to about 3.2 volts left on the battery. I don't know what kind of ProVari you have or if you've even used one but I have a mini 2.5.

You said:

The kick does regulate power

I found that quite puzzling.

 

[ImageX]

Hello all! So tax return time is coming and I want to get a quality device with way more power as I am currently using an ego twist with a Protank. So I have been reading and reading....and reading about the Provari as well as mechanical mods. So many people have so many opinions about which one they like best. I need durability, consistency, and for it to look good. It seems to me that a mechanical mod would be nice for the fact that it can vape subohms (huge clouds), but as you vape away doesn't your battery life drain and cause it to hit weaker? From what I've read, this wouldn't be an issue with the Provari as it keeps the same voltage until the battery dies. I was totally going to go the Provari route, but then after reading the mech mod lovers opinions....I'm on the fence. I know some of you have had to be in the same place as I am at one time or another...what did you go with and are you happy with your choice? Maybe I just need to get both...any help would be much appreciated. Thanks....

Why would you limit yourself to choosing one or the other when you can have both. Mech clones are very very cheap and work great. I have a Provari and numerous mech clones. I use both all the time. They also make "kicks" for mechs that keep the voltage constant as the battery drains.