Provari VS Evic Questions

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just because something is a lower quality cheaper built device does not make it useless or bad. you get what you pay for, and for what it is the evic is a damn cool thing and worth every penny of what it costs to a lot of people, but lets not kid our selves here, it is much cheaper to buy and it is a cheaply constructed device compared to a provari or semovar. no reason to be offended by these facts or become all defensive of the evic, it's very obvious which is superior and I bet you will never find even one person who has both and prefers the evic, the only ones who prefer the evic are those who only have an evic.
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No worries, I'm neither offended or defensive. It does get tiring hearing the same thing over and over and over.

For some reason people are hung up on the cost of the provari. Let's be real for a second here - it's 200.00 (that's not a lot of money, and doesn't put you in some "elite" class for owning one)

A friend of mine has a couple of the provaris and was adamant that I try it. I used it for a week or so and I wasn't impressed. The build quality is top notch but the crappy display and lack of VW (not to mention the convoluted one button navigation) really turned me off to it. If they added that stuff in, I'd buy two. Until then, I'll pass.

Now every time he sees my evic he's like "Hey, that's nice. My girlfriend has one too." To which I reply "Just because you can beat two rocks together and get noise doesn't make them better than a Les Paul."
 

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While I don't doubt your chart, it doesn't make that much difference to me. I don't notice a huge difference in performance as the charge gets lower. Could be because I don't push my stuff too hard and tend to stay in pretty tame range when it comes to volts/watts and resistance.

As far as the atty connector, haven't had a problem with mine. I know some people will get an adapter to "protect" the threads, but it's a non issue with me. I don't change tanks 34098573498 times an hour, nor do I allow the hulk to tighten them.

The extra power is another non issue since I stay in the conservative range with this. For me it wouldn't matter if it had a thousand extra amps/volts/BTU's or whatever. I have other stuff that will go higher than the evic and don't use that extra power on those either.

Personally, I can't understand why people feel the need to bash the evic. If the prophallus is so superior in every way, it shouldn't need cheerleaders to tout it non stop. The evic has been around for a while and continues to sell, so it can't be a total loss.

Unless of course people are just looking for crappy dust collectors to throw in their drawer after soldering non stop due to incessant flea farting...

What have you got against Cheerleaders? I think we could all use some!

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I also get turned off by the one button and weak display but the thing that intrigues me is the consistency and accuracy of the Provari. At the end of the day I would trade display for smoother better vapes all day long. Why can't I have both? :(

I am a very careful person so I believe I can keep my evic safe but the threading is another beast. I change tanks all the time. I usually carry 3 flavors. Time will tell

I didn't want to start a war lol. I'm just familiar with the evic vape and wanted to know the difference in the vape. There are times the evic can be harsh but I just thought it was a juice / tank hiccup

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No worries, I'm neither offended or defensive. It does get tiring hearing the same thing over and over and over.

For some reason people are hung up on the cost of the provari. Let's be real for a second here - it's 200.00 (that's not a lot of money, and doesn't put you in some "elite" class for owning one)

A friend of mine has a couple of the provaris and was adamant that I try it. I used it for a week or so and I wasn't impressed. The build quality is top notch but the crappy display and lack of VW (not to mention the convoluted one button navigation) really turned me off to it. If they added that stuff in, I'd buy two. Until then, I'll pass.

Now every time he sees my evic he's like "Hey, that's nice. My girlfriend has one too." To which I reply "Just because you can beat two rocks together and get noise doesn't make them better than a Les Paul."

Now who is bashing what?

The menu system is quite simple, and easy to do one-handed. Try that with your eVic....

Five clicks, power up.
Two more, power down.
Two more, turn device off
Two more, check battery
Two more, check ohms
Two more, display on/off (stealth mode)

All are easily identified by the menu that is displayed. I learned it in minutes.

I will concede that the eVic's display is spectacular. Easily better than the ProVari. Until you get into the daylight, where the eVic display is truly useless. But indoors and at night, it is pretty and well done.

Lack of VW is a problem for people not familiar with Ohms Law. Since I am building with RBAs, I can do watt calculations in my head. But if your device telling you what wattage you are at is important, the eVic is superior. I just value accuracy over the bells and whistles.

The eVic is a cool device with some nice features, so I don't want to bash it. It just is inferior to the ProVari in the ways that matter most to me.
 

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I also get turned off by the one button and weak display but the thing that intrigues me is the consistency and accuracy of the Provari. At the end of the day I would trade display for smoother better vapes all day long. Why can't I have both? :(

I am a very careful person so I believe I can keep my evic safe but the threading is another beast. I change tanks all the time. I usually carry 3 flavors. Time will tell

I didn't want to start a war lol. I'm just familiar with the evic vape and wanted to know the difference in the vape. There are times the evic can be harsh but I just thought it was a juice / tank hiccup

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There is no war. This happens all the time. ProVari owners and eVic owners are natural enemies.

Like Hyenas and Lions.

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But there should be no hard feelings. Everyone here is happy with their respective devices. That is what truly matters, is it not?
 

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There is no war. This happens all the time. ProVari owners and eVic owners are natural enemies.

Like Hyenas and Lions.

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But there should be no hard feelings. Everyone here is happy with their respective devices. That is what truly matters, is it not?

Yep. I am happy with the evic so far. I am just a perfectionist trying to decide if the $300 is worth it at this time. I really wish I knew someone who had a Provari. I want to hold one and try one to make the decision for myself but unfortunately that will never happen. Sucks that everything with vaping is somewhat of a gamble. I don't mind gambling on juice and cheap stuff but 300$ is rough. I would be upset if I couldn't tell the difference in the vape

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See, there's also a difference in the batteries that are recommended by the vendors. I remember in Pbusardo review he tried for a dual coil test an AW IMR battery and he got 4.X V instead of the maximum 3.X V from the battery that comes with the eVic. The manufacturer doesn't recommend protected batteries for the eVic though. I am not into electronics and stuff, maybe someone can draw some conclusion out of it.

If you are happy with your eVic just wait for it to break and then decide. The more time passes the more chance there will be better mods out there, with better electronics and better features. The market is growing rapidly and I see lots of new devices every month.
 

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Here are the details of my vape and see if it would matter or not. I'm a semi noob in the vaping world.

I smoke 100% VG only and I've never been able to go past 9-9.5 watts without getting the burnt taste so I wouldn't need the extra power from 11-15, or 5-6v. That's pretty much for mechanicals and rebuildables correct? I doubt I will ever get into rebuildables, I am perfectly content with my Davide Glassos ( pro tank 2 clone? ) and a few Kanger T3Ss. This is more than enough taste, vapor production to keep me off of analogs. I've only been vaping for a couple months but I will go to the grave vaping. The goal is to get to 0 nicotine of course.

With that said, would it be worth it to jump now or wait until my evic dies? I really wish I could hold and try one before spending close to $300

I vape 80% VG and I vape at 15 watts. The reason you vape taste burnt at 10 watts is because your atty can't wick enough to keep up with higher wattage. It's not because of high VG, it's because you can't wick it fast enough and are getting dry hits. You may not pe into rba's now, but you may in the future, and you can get a Aspire BDC for $10, and it will handle 15 watts. A Provari is only $159-$179, not $300.


I've been only vapping for 5+ months, and went from not wanting to fiddle with rba's to yeah, love them. They pay for themselves, since an new build cost me pennies, and new heads for replaceable coil attys are $1-$4. Plus the quality of vape is soo much better. Truly know that a kanger atty's taste is muted and vape production average. Am also into DIY juices. And another thought is that if you buy another device now, you will have a great backup in the evic.



While I don't doubt your chart, it doesn't make that much difference to me. I don't notice a huge difference in performance as the charge gets lower. Could be because I don't push my stuff too hard and tend to stay in pretty tame range when it comes to volts/watts and resistance.

As far as the atty connector, haven't had a problem with mine. I know some people will get an adapter to "protect" the threads, but it's a non issue with me. I don't change tanks 34098573498 times an hour, nor do I allow the hulk to tighten them.

The extra power is another non issue since I stay in the conservative range with this. For me it wouldn't matter if it had a thousand extra amps/volts/BTU's or whatever. I have other stuff that will go higher than the evic and don't use that extra power on those either.

Personally, I can't understand why people feel the need to bash the evic. If the prophallus is so superior in every way, it shouldn't need cheerleaders to tout it non stop. The evic has been around for a while and continues to sell, so it can't be a total loss.

Pointing out flaws is not bashing, especially when one is asked to explain the difference. It's just being honest. The only time I use 6 volts on the Provari, is when I'm using a coil over 2 ohms. I usually vape at 4.2 volts, but since my builds are around 1.2 ohms that comes out to 14.7 watts. With some flavors of juice I'll jack it up to 4.3 volts which puts me at 15.4 watts.



I also get turned off by the one button and weak display but the thing that intrigues me is the consistency and accuracy of the Provari. At the end of the day I would trade display for smoother better vapes all day long. Why can't I have both? :(

I am a very careful person so I believe I can keep my evic safe but the threading is another beast. I change tanks all the time. I usually carry 3 flavors. Time will tell

I didn't want to start a war lol. I'm just familiar with the evic vape and wanted to know the difference in the vape. There are times the evic can be harsh but I just thought it was a juice / tank hiccup

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I find the menu on the Provari very easy to read, even without my glasses on. I have a love hate relation with the menu scroll, but love the one button design. Most of the time I'm just pushing the button to take a vape, so I always know which button to push. lol. Far as the VV & VW debate goes, it's the same thing. Volts determine watts and watts determine voltage. Whether you are going by watts or volts, when switching tanks with different flavors, one usually bumps it up or down to dial in the sweet spot for that juice.
 

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I came up with around 265ish on provape. I don't have batteries, charger or anything. Plus I would get the black model with green led. Just the body is 170 but I need it all. I made up my mind and I will get one eventually. I think I will make it a reward for being off analogs for a certain amount of time. Or if and when the evic breaks. Whichever comes first. I still have my MVP 2 as my backup to the evic so I could use that until the Provari ships

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Sorry for the multiple posts. Can't seem to edit them..

Couple questions..

How is the battery life compared to the evic? I'm not interested in carrying multiple batteries. I usually get the evic down to 25% by the end of the day. Do you think the 490 battery would last me the day or should I get the 650?

The colored Provaris look like they have a rubber grip. Are they rubber or metal?

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Sorry for the multiple posts. Can't seem to edit them..

Couple questions..

How is the battery life compared to the evic? I'm not interested in carrying multiple batteries. I usually get the evic down to 25% by the end of the day. Do you think the 490 battery would last me the day or should I get the 650?

The colored Provaris look like they have a rubber grip. Are they rubber or metal?

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Carakote. A triple layer. Not rubber, but nice grip to it. It's a very tough finish, but looks great!

I would get the extension cap and two 650's and two 490's. I am glad I have both!



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the 18490 on the provari usually last me over 10 hours atleast (AW or Efest)... fresh from the charger .... using 1.2 ohm coils pushing between 3.2 volts to 4 volts i believe.... lately i have been using protank2 at 2.4 ohm between 3.7 volt to 4.5 volts
and batteries lasts me even longer...

knowing this , i still carry a spare or two 18490 for those just in case moments



Sorry for the multiple posts. Can't seem to edit them..

Couple questions..

How is the battery life compared to the evic? I'm not interested in carrying multiple batteries. I usually get the evic down to 25% by the end of the day. Do you think the 490 battery would last me the day or should I get the 650?

The colored Provaris look like they have a rubber grip. Are they rubber or metal?

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i have both evic and provari.. yes there is a difference i vape if u push it at higher voltage... provari voltage is consistent and will have same vape quality till battery is dead... but if conservative vaping i like the evic too... (btw my evic is still waiting to be soldered lol i dropped it so many times and had to solder over 5 times now)

I also get turned off by the one button and weak display but the thing that intrigues me is the consistency and accuracy of the Provari. At the end of the day I would trade display for smoother better vapes all day long. Why can't I have both? :(

I am a very careful person so I believe I can keep my evic safe but the threading is another beast. I change tanks all the time. I usually carry 3 flavors. Time will tell

I didn't want to start a war lol. I'm just familiar with the evic vape and wanted to know the difference in the vape. There are times the evic can be harsh but I just thought it was a juice / tank hiccup

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My eVic stripped its 510 threads after about 5 months of regular use. Otherwise, it's been reliable, but that was disappointing and not acceptable. I'll buy an ego/510 adapter to continue to get use out of it as I had been satisfied with it until it finally gave up its threads, but that signaled the end of it for me as my daily device.

I got a Provari two days ago, and so far, I'm very happy with it. The shop I bought it from even discounted the package. They did have a Samovar in stock and that was tempting, but I guess I'm just conservative and had been eyeing the Provari when I felt the eVic threads starting to go and didn't want to torment myself. I vape mostly carto tanks, so the loss of the 510 threading on the eVic was a real bummer.

The eVic feature set was never terribly useful to me, and the other negative comments that are true of it: impossible to read outside, disappointing battery life, and especially the infernal software package that really doesn't work on a Mac, all made the features less useful anyway. I did like vaping it and will see what can be done about recreating the 520 threads, but there's no way I'd buy a new head for the thing to restore full functionality.

In the end, I probably should have bought the Provari first......and last.
 
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Sorry for the multiple posts. Can't seem to edit them..

Couple questions..

How is the battery life compared to the evic? I'm not interested in carrying multiple batteries. I usually get the evic down to 25% by the end of the day. Do you think the 490 battery would last me the day or should I get the 650?

The colored Provaris look like they have a rubber grip. Are they rubber or metal?

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Battery life depends on your vaping habits and the amount of watts that you vape at. A 18490 used to get me through a day at work, then I started rba's and vaping at ~15 watts, sucks the batteries dry in no time at that level. So I bought the Tatroe extender ring and base, and 4 18650 batteries. Now and 18650 will last me a work shift. I get a 20 minute break every 80 minutes of work, sometimes every hour of work, so that computes to 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours of non stop vaping.
 
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