Provari with RDA draining batteries

[jclay1192]

I have an IGO-W dual coil that is firing at 1.8.. i generally set the voltage to 4.5-5.. sometimes higher and am using 18350 batteries one is AW IMR 700 mAh 3.7v the other is IMR 18350 800 mAh.. 3.7 v. both button top. just wondering why i'm only getting about 2 hours average per battery.. (the provari was used, as were the batteries). The 18350's are about 6 months old. So I have no idea what's going on.. I've tried 3.0 ohm single coils... I'm not sure why i'm losing so much battery voltage.

 

[jclay1192]

i ordered efest 18350 high drain button tops 800 mAh.. 2 packs of 2 hopefully its because the batteries are old, and probably overcharged,, overused?

 

[jclay1192]

hopefully its because the batteries are old, and probably overcharged,, overused?

the guy who sold me them (bought a provari bundle for 120) gave me a trustfire charger, which i'm sure he used. If he were to leave batteries sitting on that I think that would possibly hurt their life? I'm also pretty sure these are the only batteries he used for this device; therefore i'm sure they got good use before they were given to me.

 

[Jimi D.]

I had to buy an extension cap for my mini provari. I was getting about 2 hours on my 18350's.

 

[Zealous]

Well, a dual coil 1.8 ohm would need more power to heat up than a single coil 1.8 ohm wouldn't it? So then that would use up the battery faster than a single coil something. I know that my battery drains faster when I'm vaping a 1.6 ohm micro coil with 30 gauge wire than it does when I'm running a standard 1.5 ohm coil from an evod.

 

[rabernet]

I'm having the same issue with my Kayfun Lite 2.4 ohm coil. 2 hours max on 18350s with not a lot of chain vaping.

I'm hitting the road tomorrow for an 8 hour road trip. Just picked up an extention cap at my local B&M and some extra 18490s (I already had four for my Reo mini 2.0).

Going to also recoil the KFL this evening to lower ohms so I can go a little lower voltage too.

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[jclay1192]

Well, a dual coil 1.8 ohm would need more power to heat up than a single coil 1.8 ohm wouldn't it? So then that would use up the battery faster than a single coil something. I know that my battery drains faster when I'm vaping a 1.6 ohm micro coil with 30 gauge wire than it does when I'm running a standard 1.5 ohm coil from an evod.

i'm running 1.8 oh dual coil. I thought lower ohms req. lower temps to heat up.. i'm still confused

 

[InTheShade]

i ordered efest 18350 high drain button tops 800 mAh.. 2 packs of 2 hopefully its because the batteries are old, and probably overcharged,, overused?

I think so, sounds like they are just reaching the end of their life-cycle. Saying that, I am not sure you'll get more than about 3-4 hours or so using brand-new 18350's. It's all so subjective to your vaping technique, setup and frequency, it's hard to say...

I have a couple of 18350's that are nearing that point too where I'm just going to toss them in the recycling and replace them.

 

[Thrasher]

well im even the most conservative estimates 350's can get 4-6 hours. then you running dual coils, which are a little more stressful.

but the real kicker is the 4.5-5 volts range. A regulated mod has to pull more current from the battery and turn that into the voltage you set, helping to drain them even faster.

5 volts doesn't magically appear from a battery with 3.5 volts left in it.

 

[suspectK]

Going to also recoil the KFL this evening to lower ohms so I can go a little lower voltage too.

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Lowering your resistance won't save your battery.

3volts÷1ohms=3amps
4volts÷2ohms=2amps

Just an easy example, with that, I suppose you can take pulls half as long, but I don't notice it working out like that until you get further into deciohms.

 

[Big Screen D]

You may just need to clean the positive contact and threads with alcohol. Compare your voltage reading both with the atty attached, and without. Should be no more the .2 to .3 difference.

 

[Zealous]

i'm running 1.8 oh dual coil. I thought lower ohms req. lower temps to heat up.. i'm still confused

Well I believe there are a couple factors. 1. lower ohm coils do need more power to run than higher ohms. There's more (thicker wire) wire to heat up than higher ohms which use thinner wire. This is why you can't run a low ohm coil on an ego. Not enough power from the ego to heat the coil enough. 2. Dual coils = more wire to heat up. So a single coil wrapped to 1.8 ohms would require less power to heat up than 2 coils wrapped to give 1.8 ohms total. That's an extra coil that needs to be heated up so it's more power that needs to be used to do it. Make sense?

Then there is also the factor (not in the case of your wrap but just an FYI) that thicker wire will take more power to heat up than thinner wire. So if you want to wrap, say, a single 1.5 ohm coil & you use 28 gauge wire for the coil it's going to take more power to heat that coil than it would to heat a 1.5 ohm coil wrapped with 32 gauge wire.

Big Screen D could also be correct though & you may just need to clean your connectors.

Also the higher volts you're using will drain your batteries faster than lower volts since that resistance/volt combo is a higher watt. a 1.8 ohm coil running @ 5 volts is 13 watts. I think an average wattage for a lot of vapers is 8-10 watts, give or take.

 

[Bunnykiller]

running dual coil setups reduce battery time by a factor of 2 therefore 1/2 the time is available compared to a single coil at the same resistance. Plus, 18350's usually have about 600-1000 mAh's of power in them ( depending on the maker), the 18650's can have upwards of 3000 mAh rating thus leading to 9-12 hrs of vape time I use Efest 3400mAh batteries and I get about 12-16 hours of use before needing to put them back on charge.

Also have heard that the Trustfire chargers are a low-to medium low quality charger. I have the Nitecore dual cell charger and it has been working flawlessly.

 

[Myrany]

800 mah EFest batterys are not going to give you the 8 hours that some people like to claim. Even when running them in my regulated vamo with a 2 ohm coil I am happy if I get 4 hours.

Running them in my mech with a 1.7 ohm micro coil (30 gauge wire) I am happy when I get 2 hours chain vaping.

With AW IMR 18650 2000 mah I get 6-8 hours chain vaping with the above mech setup.

The old 100 mah = 1 hour rule really has never held water for me.

 

[vjc0628]

I still don't understand myself

I used to run cleros and carto tanks with vamo
using 18650 Panasonic batteries
They would last all day

I got the provari and run Rda's at 1.5- 1.9 ohms
and use 18490

It was the next size down expected to use 2x as much
although I was told since they are AW they would be much better and still last all day
but I would have been happy to do 2x as much 2 batteries a day

but instead I go through 4 batteries a day
cant believe it

 

[Myrany]

I still don't understand myself

I used to run cleros and carto tanks with vamo
using 18650 Panasonic batteries
They would last all day

I got the provari and run Rda's at 1.5- 1.9 ohms
and use 18490

It was the next size down expected to use 2x as much
although I was told since they are AW they would be much better and still last all day
but I would have been happy to do 2x as much 2 batteries a day

but instead I go through 4 batteries a day
cant believe it

a 1.5 ohm coil is going to suck alot of juice out of your battery or so I have found. Your Provari is going to ramp up how much juice it sucks from the batterys according to the ohms of the coil. A 1.5 its going to use a suprisingly bigger amount than say a 2,2 ohm coil.

 

[vjc0628]

a 1.5 ohm coil is going to suck alot of juice out of your battery or so I have found. Your Provari is going to ramp up how much juice it sucks from the batterys according to the ohms of the coil. A 1.5 its going to use a suprisingly bigger amount than say a 2,2 ohm coil.

Im still learning
maybe Ill try another wrap for a little higher ohms

I heard this before

guess have a hard time wrapping my head around the concept
of higher ohm = higher voltage
feels like the mod works harder but = more battery life???????

but I know it must be true

 

[Myrany]

Im still learning
maybe Ill try another wrap for a little higher ohms

I heard this before

guess have a hard time wrapping my head around the concept
of higher ohm = higher voltage
feels like the mod works harder but = more battery life???????

but I know it must be true

Honestly for me, I run 1.2-1.8 ohm coils and just deal with more frequent battery changes. A vape I am happy with is much more important than a 30 second battery swap.

 

[Paul.K]

I still don't understand myself

I used to run cleros and carto tanks with vamo
using 18650 Panasonic batteries
They would last all day

I got the provari and run Rda's at 1.5- 1.9 ohms
and use 18490

It was the next size down expected to use 2x as much
although I was told since they are AW they would be much better and still last all day
but I would have been happy to do 2x as much 2 batteries a day

but instead I go through 4 batteries a day
cant believe it

That seems a bit excessive. I use AW 18490 batts with a KFL @ 1.2 - 1.5 ohms and get around 6-7 hours per day. I hardly ever need to change battery at work but sometimes I have to for the drive home. When I was using AW 18350 I had very mixed results. Some days I could go 6+ hours but most days only 2-3 hours. Perhaps a thorough cleaning is needed? I've had no battery problems since I started weekly cleanings of all my mods. Alcohol + Noalox all threads and contact points.

 

[mackman]

I am lucky to get any more than 2 hours on a 18350 be it a AW or Efest brand new or cycled. I do tend to chain vape and have accepted it as the way it is. I just grab another battery and get back to business.