Provari worth it?
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Value is so subjective. When you ask if something is worth it, then you are immediately assigning "value" to it, and that has less to do with the device itself, and more to the user.
The question you need to ask yourself is what do you "value" and does the device meet those needs.
As far as a ProVari goes. It is arguably one of the best built, best performing, variable voltage power supplies ever developed. That's something that really can't be argued. However is it worth it is based on what you and only you "value". When determining "value" you also need to place a value all the points. That is why when we make decisions we put things into Pro's and Con's. If the Pro's outweigh the con's then we go with it.
For example....
If you look at an MVP2 compared to a ProVari, you see two very capable PV's that are almost polar opposites in their philosophy.
The MVP 2 is an all in one package, that provides a high quality vape in an easy to carry form factor. It combines the battery, APV and charger in one package. It is insanely inexpensive, and built reasonably well. It provides maximum compatibility by offering eGo and 510 threading. It also allows users to choose variable wattage or variable voltage However, It is also designed to be thrown away when it's battery wears out.
The ProVari is a high quality mod designed to use commonly available rechargeable batteries. It is made in the USA. It is designed and built to last for years. It is also priced accordingly. It offers best in class voltage regulation and performance across it's design specifications. It is a variable voltage only and 510 threaded device. If you want variable wattage, you are out of luck and if you need eGo cone threading you need an adapter. If you will be out and about for any extended given period of time, you will either need to bring additional batteries, or an external charger.
Those are the specific facts.
How you value or not value each one of these makes up your decision. There are no wrong answers here. Just what is "right" for a specific user.
When people are giving their opinion, they are really telling you what they themselves value. If it aligns with what you value, then that's what you go with.
For THIS vaper, I prefer the ease of use of the MVP2. I prefer variable wattage over variable voltage. I don't attempt to find the sweet spot in all my juices, just a common wattage that will provide good flavor and vapor production across all the juices I use. I prefer the convenience of not having to tote extra batteries around as I am almost always close to a phone charger...(I wish my phone would last as long as my MVP2...). I like the fact that an MVP2 has a low replacement cost. If I lose it or break it, it is very inexpensive to replace. It also allows me to have several MVP's so that I always have a nice backup. (I personally rotate between two....)
Build quality is important to me, but not the overriding concern. If my MVP2's last at least a year, then I consider that a win. I personally think an MVP vapes just as well as a ProVari with MY preferred juice delivery system (topper). So that is a wash.
But as you can see from above, I placed value on each of the points, and for that reason went with the MVP2.
But I'm unique just as everyone else here is unique. For someone who values build quality above all else, the MVP 2 doesn't cut it. For someone who values using standard replaceable batteries, the MVP2 doesn't cut it. For someone who values "made in USA". The ProVari fits the bill.
The point is....not whether the ProVari is "worth it". The question is...is it worth it for YOU..... And no one can answer that except you.
The question you need to ask yourself is what do you "value" and does the device meet those needs.
As far as a ProVari goes. It is arguably one of the best built, best performing, variable voltage power supplies ever developed. That's something that really can't be argued. However is it worth it is based on what you and only you "value". When determining "value" you also need to place a value all the points. That is why when we make decisions we put things into Pro's and Con's. If the Pro's outweigh the con's then we go with it.
For example....
If you look at an MVP2 compared to a ProVari, you see two very capable PV's that are almost polar opposites in their philosophy.
The MVP 2 is an all in one package, that provides a high quality vape in an easy to carry form factor. It combines the battery, APV and charger in one package. It is insanely inexpensive, and built reasonably well. It provides maximum compatibility by offering eGo and 510 threading. It also allows users to choose variable wattage or variable voltage However, It is also designed to be thrown away when it's battery wears out.
The ProVari is a high quality mod designed to use commonly available rechargeable batteries. It is made in the USA. It is designed and built to last for years. It is also priced accordingly. It offers best in class voltage regulation and performance across it's design specifications. It is a variable voltage only and 510 threaded device. If you want variable wattage, you are out of luck and if you need eGo cone threading you need an adapter. If you will be out and about for any extended given period of time, you will either need to bring additional batteries, or an external charger.
Those are the specific facts.
How you value or not value each one of these makes up your decision. There are no wrong answers here. Just what is "right" for a specific user.
When people are giving their opinion, they are really telling you what they themselves value. If it aligns with what you value, then that's what you go with.
For THIS vaper, I prefer the ease of use of the MVP2. I prefer variable wattage over variable voltage. I don't attempt to find the sweet spot in all my juices, just a common wattage that will provide good flavor and vapor production across all the juices I use. I prefer the convenience of not having to tote extra batteries around as I am almost always close to a phone charger...(I wish my phone would last as long as my MVP2...). I like the fact that an MVP2 has a low replacement cost. If I lose it or break it, it is very inexpensive to replace. It also allows me to have several MVP's so that I always have a nice backup. (I personally rotate between two....)
Build quality is important to me, but not the overriding concern. If my MVP2's last at least a year, then I consider that a win. I personally think an MVP vapes just as well as a ProVari with MY preferred juice delivery system (topper). So that is a wash.
But as you can see from above, I placed value on each of the points, and for that reason went with the MVP2.
But I'm unique just as everyone else here is unique. For someone who values build quality above all else, the MVP 2 doesn't cut it. For someone who values using standard replaceable batteries, the MVP2 doesn't cut it. For someone who values "made in USA". The ProVari fits the bill.
The point is....not whether the ProVari is "worth it". The question is...is it worth it for YOU..... And no one can answer that except you.
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I'm also looking into provari I'm going to get one my mind is made up. I looked hard into mech mods but if you put this "kick" thing into it it's the same as a vw with cheap design into it. Take the kick out your a proud owner of a china made pipe bomb. Why the hell would u want to sub ohm? You do it with nic and u will die simple as that... do it with 0mg you just look like an idiot and it's pointless.. I seen provaris at my local vape shop their such nice looking devices they are NOT big like they seem to be in videos / pictures they are perfect devices with SO much pro craftmanship put into it! I also looked into dna 30 or zna 30 before I made my final conclusion it's ugly very ugly to me and I wouldn't want to be seen with it again it's only my view take it or leave it..
While I generally agree with your sentiment, I do wonder about this statement. Have you compared the two side to side? I suspect not because I have an MPV and a Provari and the only time my MPV has gotten any use was when my Provari was away for repair.
Unfortunately its one of those intangibles that you can't really know without experience, and the only ones who have that experience are a part of the Provarinati and thus have no credibility with the legions of "but it's soooo expensive" folks.
It's somewhat ironic to my mind because back when the ProVari was the new kid on the block I too was skeptical of it's abilities. I'd been using mechs for a couple years by that point and a circuit board just seemed like one more thing that could break.
I find it especially humorous when people go after the Provari on it's price while pointing to DNA 20/30 mods that are generally more expensive than the Provari and have no where near the same track record of reliability.
I have three provari's. My wife HAD one. My three have treated me well for 2+ years. with only one going back for an update to version 2 electronics. My wife's on the other hand had to go back because the top cap kept pushing itself out slowly when a battery was inserted. After it came back, it continued to do the same thing.... we just gave up and it and tossed it.
All that being said, I feel my wife's was the exception to the rule and I feel the overall quality of the device makes it worth the money. If you look at some DNA20 and now DNA30 devices, you can pay almost double. The futura has been plagued with problems and costs 100 dollars more than the provari.
The quality is great, but would I buy another??? Not at this point in time. I feel that some of the features available in newer devices need to be incorporated into the provari before I buy another... Here are some examples:
1. A top cap with better airflow. Some atomizers will get no air if they sit flush.
2. A flat top cap option in addition to the slant one (or to replace it). I don't like the look of an atomizer with a wider diameter than the top cap (i.e. the kayfun).
3. An adjustable 510 center post to allow atomizers to sit flush for that clean look.
4. Not a reason to not buy one, but VW would be nice.
5. Also not a reason to now buy one, but I am nit picky and they really bury the power on / off deep in the menu. I find myself wanting to shut it off to put it in my pocket more than having to change the voltage.... again, it is not "hard" to turn it off, but it is kinda inconvenient to me personally to have to dig that deep to power it off. (some people never shut it off).
Some of the items listed above can be fixed with the addition of the hippo top cap or similar, but it does as a significant cost to the device and starts to put it in the same cost as a dna20 device... I do own a hippo top cap, but it also makes the provari longer by about 1/4 inch or so...
To sum it up, the quality is great, but I think it needs more of an update than fancy paint jobs and new "lines".
Just my 2 cents.
All that being said, I feel my wife's was the exception to the rule and I feel the overall quality of the device makes it worth the money. If you look at some DNA20 and now DNA30 devices, you can pay almost double. The futura has been plagued with problems and costs 100 dollars more than the provari.
The quality is great, but would I buy another??? Not at this point in time. I feel that some of the features available in newer devices need to be incorporated into the provari before I buy another... Here are some examples:
1. A top cap with better airflow. Some atomizers will get no air if they sit flush.
2. A flat top cap option in addition to the slant one (or to replace it). I don't like the look of an atomizer with a wider diameter than the top cap (i.e. the kayfun).
3. An adjustable 510 center post to allow atomizers to sit flush for that clean look.
4. Not a reason to not buy one, but VW would be nice.
5. Also not a reason to now buy one, but I am nit picky and they really bury the power on / off deep in the menu. I find myself wanting to shut it off to put it in my pocket more than having to change the voltage.... again, it is not "hard" to turn it off, but it is kinda inconvenient to me personally to have to dig that deep to power it off. (some people never shut it off).
Some of the items listed above can be fixed with the addition of the hippo top cap or similar, but it does as a significant cost to the device and starts to put it in the same cost as a dna20 device... I do own a hippo top cap, but it also makes the provari longer by about 1/4 inch or so...
To sum it up, the quality is great, but I think it needs more of an update than fancy paint jobs and new "lines".
Just my 2 cents.
I find it interesting that you thought highly enough of them that you ended up with three of them. I never pay good money for anything that I don't feel is worth it.
Actually I did. I was in a new vape shop that opened down the road and a bunch of people walked in with their mods. One had an MVP, One had a Sigelei Legend and one had a ProVari mini. The guy with the legend looked like he was waving a wii controller to adjust his settings....Lame. The Legend guy even tried to tell me how his legend was just as good as his friends ProVari and both me and the ProVari guy looked at him and said.....whatever...
I asked the guy with the ProVari how he liked it and he said it was awesome. I asked him if I could put my iClear 30 on it and see what I was "missing", and he said ok.
So I set my MVP to VV and matched the ProVari and took some hits side by side. I couldn't tell the difference. Some people might, but I couldn't.
Handling the unit was pure joy and I really did appreciate the build quality. But on taste alone, I could not tell the difference.
I told the ProVari guy that I couldn't tell the difference and he said "yeah" he had an MVP2 as backup and it was his go to device if he was going to be away from home for awhile. He said he preferred the form factor of the ProVari Mini, and used it primarily when he was at home or close to home, but admitted he couldn't tell much of a difference in taste which is why he went with the MVP. He didn't like that it was disposable, but he said it was perfect for a backup because he didn't really have to charge it and discharge it that often.
I told him that the ProVari did seem well constructed and he agreed that it was built like a brick poop house...(cleaned up for your consumption).
Since I currently have 2 MVP's I think, for me, it's not worth it to buy it simply as a backup. I think I have a problem putting a $170 mod in my pocket and carrying it around. For my backup I actually bought a Sigelei Zmax v3 because it was insanely cheap (mod, imr 18650 and 2 battery charger cost me just under $64.00 with shipping included), has variable wattage and appears pretty decent for it's price.. That's my backup for my two MVP's.
If one of my MVP's dies suddenly, however, I am seriously keeping the ProVari in consideration. It is an impressive device....
If ProVape came up with variable wattage right now, however, I'd be pushing the buy now button before I even finished this post
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i just wish my 2 would get here already.
ordered them the same day i ordered my reo. the reo is next to me yet provape has yet to even give me tracking on the provarii order. funny thing is the day after, i ordered 4 AW IMR 2000mah cells from provape and the next day, i ordered 2 tatroe wide bottoms with extensions. first tracking i received was for the caps. next (today, finally) was for the batteries. but i want my provarii, dangit.
out of the 35+ orders i've placed since then, 14 have already shown up. only other order that doesn't have tracking yet is my custom glass fitted ibtankeds. which is understandable.
well, there is one order i put in today that's backordered, but i knew that when i put the order in and there's much less anticipation for yet another (not actually for me) mvp2.
ordered them the same day i ordered my reo. the reo is next to me yet provape has yet to even give me tracking on the provarii order. funny thing is the day after, i ordered 4 AW IMR 2000mah cells from provape and the next day, i ordered 2 tatroe wide bottoms with extensions. first tracking i received was for the caps. next (today, finally) was for the batteries. but i want my provarii, dangit.
out of the 35+ orders i've placed since then, 14 have already shown up. only other order that doesn't have tracking yet is my custom glass fitted ibtankeds. which is understandable.
well, there is one order i put in today that's backordered, but i knew that when i put the order in and there's much less anticipation for yet another (not actually for me) mvp2.
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