Proverbial "best" mech mod available? - Seeking advise.

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Ambro

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Hello all,

I've been having a difficult time making a decision for my first mech mod and the question floating about is, what's the best mech mod for the price? I'm not looking to sub-ohm but would like something that hits like a train if possible. I was thinking about using a 1 ohm single coil and a kayfun Lite with a Panzer but can't find a reputable vendor to purchase one from at a reasonable price.

Can anyone make some recommendations on some high quality mech mods?

Thanks all.
 

poconojo

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Hello all,

I've been having a difficult time making a decision for my first mech mod and the question floating about is, what's the best mech mod for the price? I'm not looking to sub-ohm but would like something that hits like a train if possible. I was thinking about using a 1 ohm single coil and a KayFun Lite with a Panzer but can't find a reputable vendor to purchase one from at a reasonable price.

Can anyone make some recommendations on some high quality mech mods?

Thanks all.

Super t manufacturing has some high quality mech mods for a decent price. Lifetime warranty. I own a few of their devices and you cannot go wrong with them. The machine quality is some of the best out there.
 

elprup7

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i second the magneto by smoktech. Its my first mech mod but it is definitely worth the low cost. The magnetic firing button greatly reduces voltage drop(if properly cleaned/maintained) to around .15, which is on par with much m0re expensive mods. It is also telescopic which allows for any 18000 series battery(18350-18650). The v2 also has an adjustable firing pin and air holes for the battery tube, which were the only flaws in the first version. Very affordable and high quality mech mod
 

Crazed trucker

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I have the Stingray, Caravela. Nemi, turtle ship, and the 26650 copper Stingray ordered. But out of the ones I have the Stingray hits the hardest by far. I sub ohm. My cloud blowing set up is a quad coil at .17, I tried it on every one of those mods with a fresh 35amp efest. And Stingray blew them out of the water. Can't Waite to get my hands on the copper stingray. Just my 2 cents
 

vapo jam

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not sure what a reasonable price is to you, but if you want something that hits like a train:

<--- that guy right over there

poldiac was designed to minimize the voltage drop as much as possible, and it does a very good job of it. it's been around for a while now, but it's still one of the hardest hitting mods available (if not the hardest).

yes, it is pretty expensive, but i think most poldiac owners would agree that the price is very reasonable for the quality of the device that you get. there really isn't a whole lot out there that's close to comparable.
 

vapo jam

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the poldiac "hits hard" because it has low voltage drop, mainly due to the silver PLATED contacts. On alot of mods, even clones, you can purchase PURE silver contacts, thus reducing voltage drop further.

yes and no...

yes, a pure silver contact will have a lower voltage drop than a silver plated contact, all else being equal, however, the contacts are a small part of the overall story.

most of the resistance of a mod is within the body of the mod, not the contacts (ie, a solid silver mod with steel contacts will hit much harder than a steel mod with solid silver contacts). most of the resistance in the body is due to threaded parts. ideally, the body would be one solid tube, but since you need a button and a way to get the battery in, the next best thing is to use a very fine threading with very tight tolerances in order to maximize contact between the parts. i don't know of any mod with finer threading or tighter tolerances than the poldiac (not that one doesn't exist, i just haven't personally seen one).

the other big drop in most mods is caused by springs. the reason everyone complains about their button getting hot when they sub-ohm with a cheap clone (and sometimes even with high-end originals) is because manufacturers cheap out and use tiny, high-resistance springs that suck up voltage. the springs in spring-loaded center pins tend to pop/melt for exactly the same reason. there is one conductive spring on the poldiac, and it's a beefy silver-plated spring that never even gets warm.

so yes, if i were to replace the silver plated contacts on my poldiac with pure silver contacts, it may hit slightly harder. but no, even if i were to replace the contacts on my (real) sentinel m16 (which is a heavy hitter in its own right) with pure silver contacts, it still wouldn't hit as hard as the poldiac.
 
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Nataani

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The hardest hitting mods at a reasonable price are the solid copper mods.

As has been stated above, the body of the mod carrys the most resistance, so while silver plated or solid silver contacts will indeed lower voltage drop, a solid copper body will do far more. In reality, the difference in resistance between copper and silver is minimal. Get your hands on a solid copper mod with copper contacts and tight threading.

Copper mods i have tried so far:
Caravella
Hades
Copper penny
Stingray
Nemesis

The hardest hitting of these is the copper nemesis, imo. Easily purchased for less than $50.
 

vapo jam

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i haven't personally tried a solid copper mod yet (although the copper vanilla is up there on my list for next high-end...), but i 100% agree with the recommendation. iacs scale is based around copper having 100% conductivity. on this scale, brass is 28%, steel is about half that at most, silver is 105%, so yes, replacing the big brass and steel parts will have a much greater effect than replacing tiny silver-plated bits.
 

elprup7

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yes and no...

yes, a pure silver contact will have a lower voltage drop than a silver plated contact, all else being equal, however, the contacts are a small part of the overall story.

most of the resistance of a mod is within the body of the mod, not the contacts (ie, a solid silver mod with steel contacts will hit much harder than a steel mod with solid silver contacts). most of the resistance in the body is due to threaded parts. ideally, the body would be one solid tube, but since you need a button and a way to get the battery in, the next best thing is to use a very fine threading with very tight tolerances in order to maximize contact between the parts. i don't know of any mod with finer threading or tighter tolerances than the poldiac (not that one doesn't exist, i just haven't personally seen one).

the other big drop in most mods is caused by springs. the reason everyone complains about their button getting hot when they sub-ohm with a cheap clone (and sometimes even with high-end originals) is because manufacturers cheap out and use tiny, high-resistance springs that suck up voltage. the springs in spring-loaded center pins tend to pop/melt for exactly the same reason. there is one conductive spring on the poldiac, and it's a beefy silver-plated spring that never even gets warm.

so yes, if i were to replace the silver plated contacts on my poldiac with pure silver contacts, it may hit slightly harder. but no, even if i were to replace the contacts on my (real) sentinel m16 (which is a heavy hitter in its own right) with pure silver contacts, it still wouldn't hit as hard as the poldiac.

there is also noalox which you can put on the threads to prevent oxidation, which causes volt drop
 

elprup7

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i still think the contacts have more to do with the volt drop simply because the charge goes through them directly, so that 5% difference in silver and copper, and especially that 72% difference with copper and brass(which most mods use for contacts) is still significant. I'd like to see a volt drop test between two of the same mods, one SS and one Brass or Copper or something else, but with the same contacts.
 

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One word COPPER. Get a copper mod. With the new 26650 batteries taking over now i'd consider them if size is not an issue. I have a Copper Hades on order and some of the batteries will handle 50amps peak burst current. There is also the Black copper Stingray which can be found in 26650 or 18650 battery types. Next for me would be either a copper or brass nemisis which uses the 18000 series battery. Get one with either copper or brass contacts if possible silver plated. I would not get a sieg #19. Have it and its a pain. The Magneto is good get the brass if you go that way. In order of what I think is best #1 Copper hades and Black copper stingray, #2 Brass Magneto, #3 Brass or copper Nemesis. I've also have a K101 which electrically sucks as its got aluminum in it but it is so damn easy to use and if you don't go sub ohm it probably won't matter.
 
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