public vaping

[trazzman]

If your in a crowded area its probably going to get on them, poison them, or kill them someday. However, Im pretty sure if your more than ten feet away, say on an aisle in Walmart by yourself, it will dissipate before anyone has a chance to get one of those deadly molecules inside their lungs. That would be the difference in vaping versus smoking. Of course dont even go into rock concerts and their smoke machines which bellow plumes of vg into the audience. Not that they give a crap whats in your PV. Mine just happens to be the same thing as the concert with addition of a few mg of flavoring.

 

[Tarja]

Hell, I hang with the smokers. And among the smoker contingent, there's a growing population of e-cig users. I vape in the house, sure, but the husband doesn't mind, since the house smells of black currant instead of tobacco these days.

As I did when I was smoking, I take into account my surroundings, and if it ISN'T a smoke-friendly zone, then I won't. And I *definitely* don't take the cloud with me in public

 

[grannykimmy]

I do my best to be respectful but I quit smoking and I'm not about to go to smoking areas with my tail between my legs to vape. I ask permission in restaurants but other non-smoking places I have vaped in. I vaped for hours in a courthouse no complaints. Why are vapors comparing vapor to smoke? If we don't know the difference how can we expect non-vapors to? As for breathing in somebody's air how can that be avoided? Do you hold your breath in small places? I put signs up in our home and business that says "smoking prohibited, vaping allowed"

 

[trazzman]

Its really simple. Common sense and politeness. Or maybe just giving a crap about someone other than yourself. But clouds n public places? C'mon. A few rude ... smokers probably had a lot to do with giving up everyones freedom to smoke. I mean for crying out loud, we lost smoking sections in restaurants. Why? They were required to ventilate those areas so the carcinogens didnt bleed into the non smoking areas. Still, we lost them. We tucked tail and let them take it away because of "the kids" If we dont stand up to this, and stand up strong, we are going to lose it because of "the kids" again. This time maybe just because of bubble gum, blueberry, and liquorice. They are going to pull whatever they can. We are costing them money. Money from tobacco taxes, pharmaceuticals, lawsuits, taxes, medical equipment, etc... I lay you ten to one, when the sin taxes and bans start pouring in, clouds will not even be an issue.

 

[trazzman]

I do my best to be respectful but I quit smoking and I'm not about to go to smoking areas with my tail between my legs to vape. I ask permission in restaurants but other non-smoking places I have vaped in. I vaped for hours in a courthouse no complaints. Why are vapors comparing vapor to smoke? If we don't know the difference how can we expect non-vapors to? As for breathing in somebody's air how can that be avoided? Do you hold your breath in small places? I put signs up in our home and business that says "smoking prohibited, vaping allowed"

Kudos. Hella statement. Why do we keep using the term "ecig"? I dont smoke ecigs. I vape. We are vapors vaping juices which may or may not contain nicotine. Im an ex smoker and a vaper.

 

[Ashakoh]

I'm new to this and I see the OP's friends' behaviors as very irritating. It does make us all look bad and if more disrespectful people continue doing this we're going to get painted in a very negative light. I don't see a problem with vaping in public, however, as long as it's not indoors. I make sure not to blow it at anyone and basically treat it just like I did when I was smoking. I'm not going to lie, I will go in the bathroom at work and vape when other people aren't around however. It makes the shift go by so much more easily.

 

[Tarja]

Semantics, seriously. Complaints about terminology are counter-productive.

And frankly, there is already a growling backlash about vaping (proper term used), particularly in California. I'm respectful of my surroundings, and the people around me, and *I* personally don't like clouds or smoke being puffed in my face. I'm not going to do the same to someone else.

Frankly, I am not going to walk around to 100 desks and ask anyone if I want to vape at my desk. That would get shut down toute suite.

 

[FireDragon1138]

It's just courtesy. Not everybody wants to see clouds of vapor everywhere.

 

[grannykimmy]

I'm new to this and I see the OP's friends' behaviors as very irritating. It does make us all look bad and if more disrespectful people continue doing this we're going to get painted in a very negative light. I don't see a problem with vaping in public, however, as long as it's not indoors. I make sure not to blow it at anyone and basically treat it just like I did when I was smoking. I'm not going to lie, I will go in the bathroom at work and vape when other people aren't around however. It makes the shift go by so much more easily.

I don't think clouds have anything to do with it. Our local news is full of anti vaping stories, no mention of clouds at all. Its all about e-liquids being poison. Do you really believe if every vapor did so in the dark of night behind closed doors that they would stop trying to regulate them? Vapors are already painted in a negative light, the media has made sure of it.It's about money and who's not profiting off of us ex smokers now. I heard the other day 4 million vapors ( that they know of ) now in the US... look at our signatures and how many cigs we've avoided in short times... how many cigs not bought X 4 million does that equal? Do you think Big Tobacco, Big Pharm and the Tax Man are just going to let all that profit disappear... we never stood a chance. I'm going to enjoy the freedom of vaping within reason while I can and when they say I can't then I'll vape under the cover of my home behind closed doors with my apple pie moonshine

 

[Ashakoh]

I don't think clouds have anything to do with it. Our local news is full of anti vaping stories, no mention of clouds at all. Its all about e-liquids being poison. Do you really believe if every vapor did so in the dark of night behind closed doors that they would stop trying to regulate them? Vapors are already painted in a negative light, the media has made sure of it.It's about money and who's not profiting off of us ex smokers now. I heard the other day 4 million vapors ( that they know of ) now in the US... look at our signatures and how many cigs we've avoided in short times... how many cigs not bought X 4 million does that equal?

I'm definitely not saying that's the sole reason, I'm just saying it doesn't help. Of course the tobacco companies will be hard-pressed to just let money shift away from their products. And their extensive influence on the law-making process is frightening. No, I don't think that anything we do will stop them from trying to regulate PVs in ways that benefit them. I'm just saying public perception is a factor. And while the media may shove down our throats what they've been paid to, people will have personal experiences with us as well. And if the vapers they know are polite and courteous about it, they might be inclined to think twice about what they've heard.

 

[Viking343]

Its really simple. Common sense and politeness. Or maybe just giving a crap about someone other than yourself. But clouds n public places? C'mon. A few rude ... smokers probably had a lot to do with giving up everyones freedom to smoke. I mean for crying out loud, we lost smoking sections in restaurants. Why? They were required to ventilate those areas so the carcinogens didnt bleed into the non smoking areas. Still, we lost them. We tucked tail and let them take it away because of "the kids" If we dont stand up to this, and stand up strong, we are going to lose it because of "the kids" again. This time maybe just because of bubble gum, blueberry, and liquorice. They are going to pull whatever they can. We are costing them money. Money from tobacco taxes, pharmaceuticals, lawsuits, taxes, medical equipment, etc... I lay you ten to one, when the sin taxes and bans start pouring in, clouds will not even be an issue.

I agree with this, for the most part. However, I also agree that respecting other people's personal space is the best way to keep them from whining about second hand vapor. Vaping has already been banned indoors in my state, prematurely, of course. Too many dullards refusing to do any research will always end with banning things they choose not to get the facts on. To put it plain, I don't appreciate anyone chucking huge clouds right next to me, so I won't do it next to anyone else.

 

[grannykimmy]

I'm definitely not saying that's the sole reason, I'm just saying it doesn't help. Of course the tobacco companies will be hard-pressed to just let money shift away from their products. And their extensive influence on the law-making process is frightening. No, I don't think that anything we do will stop them from trying to regulate PVs in ways that benefit them. I'm just saying public perception is a factor. And while the media may shove down our throats what they've been paid to, people will have personal experiences with us as well. And if the vapers they know are polite and courteous about it, they might be inclined to think twice about what they've heard.

If vapors hide behind closed doors how will they have personal experiences with them? If they only see vapors in smoking areas they're going to see both as the same.

 

[eebant]

If vapors hide behind closed doors how will they have personal experiences with them? If they only see vapors in smoking areas they're going to see both as the same.

Because that's where they are putting us.

 

[eebant]

I don't think clouds have anything to do with it. Our local news is full of anti vaping stories, no mention of clouds at all. Its all about e-liquids being poison. Do you really believe if every vapor did so in the dark of night behind closed doors that they would stop trying to regulate them? Vapors are already painted in a negative light, the media has made sure of it.It's about money and who's not profiting off of us ex smokers now. I heard the other day 4 million vapors ( that they know of ) now in the US... look at our signatures and how many cigs we've avoided in short times... how many cigs not bought X 4 million does that equal? Do you think Big Tobacco, Big Pharm and the Tax Man are just going to let all that profit disappear... we never stood a chance. I'm going to enjoy the freedom of vaping within reason while I can and when they say I can't then I'll vape under the cover of my home behind closed doors with my apple pie moonshine

Yes, the antivaping stories are wide and many and unfortunately will continue to grow. The uninformed general public sees this all as, "OMG! Nicotine blasted everywhere this person vapes and we're inhaling all of this deadly nicotine!" or "OMG! That battery is gonna blow up and kill us all!".


The general public is not going to do the research we all have done here. That vaping is the safe alternative.

 

[trazzman]

Why are people hung up on clouds? LOL, it wasnt clouds that got smoking banned. Maybe something to do with .......s who blew into others faces. Sure enough. But I promise you guys, clouds are not what is going to kill vaping or get the hell taxed out of it. Its about money, plain and simple. It was about money with smoking. Have you people forgotten when smoking was at .... peak they banned advertising. When it finally started to decline what did they do? Did they not in the last ten years lif the advertising ban? Do you really believe the government which was originally supposed to be by the people, of the people, and for the people, gives a flying crap about your health?

This really isnt about just vaping. It is about so much more. It is your last shot at freedom. Our last shot at taking a peaceful stand yet a strong stand. If we lose this we will lose far more than just vaping. For the first time they will be banning "The Cure" The cure for what they rightfully proclaimed a harmful disease that kills and maims. Alot of you guys in this forum are the future of this country. This is your opportunity to stand up and be heard. I really hope it will not be your last opportunity to do this without a real fight but it well could be. Think about it. We found a cure for smoking and they want to take it away. It is costing them millions. They wont wait until it costs them billions. Imagine every smoker in the world switching to vaping. Do realize the costs? Doctors will be in over supply. Pharmaceuticals and cancer treatments will lose billions. Lawyers will lose millions in all sorts of lawsuits. Politicians will lose billions of tax revenues earmaked for smoki9ng cessations which is robbed for personal programs in their elected states.

We are talking huge amounts of money here. They will not quit. It will be one hell of a fight if we chose to fight it. Close your eyes. Imagine you have an income stream of a few hundred thousand per year. its all based on one thing though you receive it in the guise of many forms. Along comes some guy who, for the good of all mankind, takes that money away from you. Not only you, but a 3 million other people who depend on it. Yet you know that even though you are not a majority, you have the power of the ruling sector to manipulate that income stream so that you dont lose it. This is what we are up against. In reality, everyone in the world who appreciates freedom is up against the same thing.

We either have freedom or we dont. It isnt taken away all at once. It is taken one group of people at a time. Today it is vapers. Tomorrow it might be gays, sooner or later it will come back to race. We worked hard for the freedoms we have in these modern times. We shouldnt give it up easily. I dunno that vapers are the end all. Maybe we are just the beginning. I just dont think Im quite ready to lay down yet. I hope we all appreciate freedom. Hope we all love it. In the end, its all we really have that amounts to anything. Just ask someone who doesnt have it.

 

[grannykimmy]

Because that's where they are putting us.

I've only been in this forums a short time but it seems to me that a lot of vapors have put themselves there. To each his/her own but I've read a lot of posts where vapors say they only vape where smoking is allowed. I agree we need to use common sense and be respectful by not blowing it in people's faces but as long as I'm allowed by law to vape somewhere, I will.

 

[eebant]

Excellent post, trazzman! You said it all!

 

[Man_Sear]

I don't understand people, who make a show of it. There are special designated smoking areas, as no one wants to inhale somebody else's smoke

 

[Shuddy]

I provide others the same courtesy that I did when smoking. The only exception is if I'm still at work after closing hours, and I'm with co-workers that don't mind me vaping. I would never have smoked cigerettes in those circumstances.

 

[mentor6363]

i have kids when i pick them up at school and know there other kids there i dont even take out my svd and sometimes in overcrowded places. dont want to go trew the hassle of explaning specailly to some older folks that im not using drugs. lol.