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Razorback

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There are many different ways of fighting for your rights. I think the "The Other 99%" movement has shown pretty clearly how far we can get with civil disobedience and trying to be fight the establishment openly. Which is pretty much nowhere. The best we can do is to influence people one at a time by informing them about what we are doing. Contact our representative and let them know what we want. Sign petitions and start them when there is a need.

In the meantime be courteous about our behavior. Pissing people of usually gets us nothing. Its one of those cases where almost everyone is ok with people vaping around them, but the very few that are not, are very loud and play right in the hands of the people who want to control vaping.

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I feel pretty uncomfortable vaping in public restaurants, theaters, stores, etc. only because e-cigs, PVs and APVs are beyond people's understanding, unfortunately. They barely have any understanding of cheap cig-a-likes and think it's "water vapor" and generally don't know what PV and VG is. Too many people associate it with "smoking" and I personally think it gives vapers a bad name to try and go above and beyond what's socially accepted right now only because most people are rather ignorant of what it's all about. Smoking and the whole cancer thing gets people charged up and irritated so anything remotely resembling cigarette smoke will just add fuel to the fire.

I will feel more comfortable when truthful information is spread around so people already know what I'm up to when they see me toking on a long silver cylindrical tube (Vamo), especially if I'm in doors where smoking cigarettes is forbidden. In other words, all it does is creates confusion in people's minds. "Is he smoking or his he doing something illegal? What is that?" I don't personally like drawing this type of attention to myself in public stores, restaurants, etc. I will, however, vape OUTSIDE in public. That, I don't care about. And if it bothers someone, that's unfortunate and I'm sorry it does (also sorry to say, but I have to draw the line somewhere) they can technically go somewhere else....there's plenty of atmosphere to go around outside.

As far as stealth vaping is concerned, I will vape in a bathroom with no one in it or will vape until I get to a door of an establishment. The most I will do is exhale a plume on the way into shoprite or something but won't continue because of the aforementioned reasons.
 

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If it is a no smoking area, I don't vape there either. I believe too few people understand that vaping is not smoking. They see vapor and immediately think it is smoke. I have been asked about vaping and when I explain, many people are interested in knowing more. We just have to win them over to our side. There will always be someone to complain about something . . . Vaping seems to be a big issue at this time. We know vaping is not smoking, so educating the public about this may change some minds. Biggest hurdle I see is getting the media to voice an even and clear picture of what vaping is. Until then, people look at us as if we are evil.
 

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.............Its one of those cases where almost everyone is ok with people vaping around them, but the very few that are not, are very loud and play right in the hands of the people who want to control vaping.

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If this advice is to be inferred to mean: act like vaping is the same as smoking, I can't agree. However, vaping most places but respectfully, is one many of us can agree with. There will always be a few who will be ignorantly against vaping and who might be vocal. You will never satisfy their need to control other's behavior.
 

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If it is a no smoking area, I don't vape there either. I believe too few people understand that vaping is not smoking. They see vapor and immediately think it is smoke. I have been asked about vaping and when I explain, many people are interested in knowing more. We just have to win them over to our side. There will always be someone to complain about something . . . Vaping seems to be a big issue at this time. We know vaping is not smoking, so educating the public about this may change some minds. Biggest hurdle I see is getting the media to voice an even and clear picture of what vaping is. Until then, people look at us as if we are evil.

So by vaping in designated smoking areas only, you are educating the uninformed when they see you, to believe..............vaping is smoking. I think there is a middle ground that does a better job of providing a different perception of what vaping is and is not. And if we assume it is some "other, unknown" people's responsibility to educate the uninformed, then vaping will never be understood.
 

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Just took a big puff from my VTR after finishing a gourmet meal at a Waffle House we stopped at while traveling.

Waitress came to the table immediately.

Left the table five minutes later with notes about what kind of batteries and juice to get. She has been wanting to quit smoking and had been curious about "those electronic things"

Yeah, vaping in public and in restaurants is disrespectful...

...to the people who depend on tobacco tax money to buy votes.
 
When I first started i would vape everywhere once I was in a store and I vaped near this little old lady she threw her hands in the air screaming o my god the smoke it stinks so bad I think she felt I was really smoking a cig in the store well since this went down i would not really vape around a crowd of people in a store again if no one is around i might get a puff in so i understand what you are saying why force it on people i still feel strongly that it is a lot healthier to things we consume on a daily bases.
 

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I'm kind of like you Gerom, I don't enjoy the weird looks.

I don't vape anywhere where it would run the risk of being troublesome to others, with one exception, my father in law's bar. That's only because I don't like going outside and leaving him alone to go vape! So I just blow it in a corner. Even there I've gotten into this whole thing with a customer who said it was really dangerous. I spent ten minutes explaining point for point why he was wrong. He still ended up saying 'oh I'll stick with my cigarettes, at least I know what's in them'.
 

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I am careful...or respectful. e thing that I have found is when I go in a public bathroom stall. I conduct ALL of my business. I'm really not a go out much person, so times it is not an issue. Really, I vape for the nic otine, so 3-4 vapes and I am good for awhile. I was vaping, at first, 36mg and I generally didn't need to vape as often. Now I am down to 24 and, althoughI vape a bit more, I know I am at a more popular vaping purchase level.

I guess I am just conscious of my own needs and the issues with others.

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I think if you got some nic juice, plus a device/tank and got in a time machine, went back to 1970's and did a protest to mock where the (then budding) SHS logic is going, you'd have people/ANTZ (then) saying, "vapor is nothing like smoke. Not even close. Your protest is way off base with what we are dealing with. Vapor is not smoke and doesn't harm like smoke does. People exhale vapor all the time. That's not what our fight is about. It's about the smoke! How can you not see that? Treating smoking the same as that vapor thing you are using is incredibly disingenuous."

Then get back in your time machine, return to present day, and see how many are putting forth arguments that are incredibly disingenuous.
 
I try to be as respectful as possible. If someone is with me in my car, I'll crack a window. If I'm around other people, I'll try to blow the smoke upward, so it doesn't go in anyone's face.

As for where I vape? If I'm indoors, I'll always ask first. Outdoors? Free reign, IMHO... unless there are explicit rules about not smoking.
 

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On the streets of NYC I vape away. Like others, I ask the staff if it's ok at bars and restaurants. And I ask the people sitting around me. Even so, I blow the vapor down between my legs discreetly - not up in the air to show everyone my "mad clouds yo". No one cares and I just want my nic. Of course, that all comes to an end on March 31. April 1 the NYC indoor vaping ban goes into effect. Won't be allowed at public parks, beaches, and plazas either. So there will be no more asking. But at that point we'll stealth vape. And if caught, we'll ask if they mind. If they do, we'll stop. Why stealth vape? I don't want to stand in the smoking area and end up smelling like an ashtray and inhaling that crap (it's why I quit f-ing smoking!).

I don't vape in buildings that have no smoking in place. But I refuse to stand with smokers to vape. I hate the smell of cigarettes, and if I got off the cigs so I could be healthier why subject myself to standing next to a smoker. You want me to vape outside fine, give me a place that doesn't put me next to a smoker. And if I am outside leave me alone, don't stand by me if you don't like it, (the smell, the what-if dangers). I hate when I am by myself and some crazy has to go out of there way to stand next to me just so they can tell me "hay, I don't like the smell, can you put that away", give me a break.

I agree that we should be respectful of others, vapers and non-vapers alike.
 

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When I first started i would vape everywhere once I was in a store and I vaped near this little old lady she threw her hands in the air screaming o my god the smoke it stinks so bad I think she felt I was really smoking a cig in the store.

My grandma used to get blisters on her mouth if someone BAKED (not reheat) biscuits in a microwave. She comes to my house one Christmas for dinner ,a very old house with limited power outlets and low amperage so no microwave in the house, and gets blisters in her mouth. My uncle starts raising 7734 about how dare we cook biscuits in the microwave, blah blah, yammer, cuss and fuss. I took him in the kitchen and asked him to show me the microwave and asked him who would be stupid enough to BAKE biscuits in a microwave that they'd turn out harder than Ellie Maes chocolate chip cookies on the Beverly Hillbillies. They never did get the gist that I was trying to tell them it was all in her head.
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