pv6 illuminated momentary switch-wiring of switches

[bemorphy]

I have looked all over to find a definite answer in language that I can understand.
I am no dope but simple things seem to perplex me more and more.
Here is my switch:

It is a momentary switch. I want to use it to fire my atty.
Power source is 2 18650 in series, through a step down adjustable voltage board.

A complicated answer might really make sense to me of how to wire it up, or even a sketch to show how the wires go.

I am having some luck with it. Got it wired so led comes on right away, press the button led goes out and voltage to load goes to zero. Crazy.

Tired of looking all over the interwebs for an answer. And I see others have used this switch with pretty pictures in their mods, but apparently it is a secret how they wired it up.

Thanks before hand if you know the answer. If you don't know, a politicians answer is not required, thanks again.

 

[bemorphy]

mod in progress. waiting for a lighted on off swith with the power symbol that lights up

 

[Commie]

I may be very wrong, but two leads on the switch are for the LED, and the other two are for the switch.

If that's the case, you need to figure out which ones are which, and send power to your converter through the switch leads only. Depending on how the switch is designed, you may also need to put a small resistor (470 ohm seems to be standard), in sequence with your light. Otherwise, if I understand correctly, the LED will short your batteries and trip protection circuit.

So, I'd get it to work with just the switching functionality, and then try it with a LED too. If it starts turning off at that point, add a resistor with the LED and see if that helps.

Edit: also, that is one awesome looking switch. I'm all kinds of drooling here. I wish one could fit into my beloved altoids boxes.

 

[Dearth Vapir]

Hi bemorphy,
Not familiar with that particular switch, but from other similar devices I've used over the years, I'd 'guess' that the LED is wired internally perhaps, and that one pair of the connections on the back are for a 'normally closed' connection - seems that's how you first had it set up - the switch is in the 'on' position until pressed, then goes 'off'. The other pair of terminals then would be 'normally open' - switch is 'off' until pressed, then comes 'on'.

Usually a device like that will have the terminals marked up 'NC' and NO', but if not and if you don't have a meter to check the connections, then this can be done with a small battery wired to a bulb - wre bulb and battery so you have 2 wires that if connected, light the bulb, then use the switch in-between those 2 wires to complete the circuit - one set should light the bulb until you press (not the ones you want), the other terminals would light the bulb only when button pressed = the ones you want.

If the switch is wired differently than this (most often I've seen only 3 terminals one 'NC', one 'NO', and the remainder usually marked 'C' or 'Common' which would then need to be connected to the '-' connection in either case, shouldn't be too hard to figure it out anyway with the above bulb method. If yours has an 'NC', an 'NO' and a 'C', then the 4th terminal, I'd suggest, would be for the LED to be connected if needed - if so, get the switch working first, but if the light doesn't work, then conect 4th terminal to either + or - - whichever works (if you get the last connection wrong the light just won't work - no damage though).

HTH some and GL!

DV.

 

[bemorphy]

think I got it now, only too late. It does absolutely zilch now on the led part. Still acts as a switch, so I must of burnt out the led I suppose. Anyway, that and a burnt out vv board I am not having the greatest of luck with electronics. I do believe now that the + and - symbol are for the led so power in to pos and ground to neg, then you can just jump the power over to one of the other legs and then a power wire out on the last leg and it should work. Again, I am sure that is how it goes only I figured it out too late. So I ordered a new switch from a site that tells how to wire it up. Then I found these, look nice, if they had stock avail.
here is the new one I ordered plain and simple and should fit in my box. Also it has its correct resistor inside it so no guessing no messing and no blown led's, that is a big plus for me as I am an expert and shorting things out and have a big pile of junk to show how good I am at it.
Thanks for all your help guys.
Terry

 

[Dearth Vapir]

Sorry to hear about the VV board - that musta stung ',;~{~

Oh well! Good luck with the new bits anyway, and as for shorting things out - even as an ex-tech. (of sourts) I've done this repeatedly since I was a kid, and still do, heheheh...

be Well!

DV

 

[crritter996]

Sorry I was not able to help you more with the wiring of your mod. Hope that new switch will do the trick. Good luck.

 

[bemorphy]

thanks you guys. here are a few good links to check out that I have come across. I have a few ideas with all of these and maybe you would too.
push button and instructions one on order now.
cool little switch got a few small round magnets for this puppy. Gonna be fun to try.
battery charger-battery-cable
low profile easy to connect and recharge and would fit nicely in a box mod. bit pricey so gonna wait awhile before I get into this. I have been using 18650 batts and like them alot. But a box with a vv, charger, 3 switches and a pot and display, this might be the ticket in my opinion.
have fun take care