quality problems with "Flavor" DIY products!

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Demon

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I ordered 4 types of "Stronger Tobacco Flavours" for DIY in your webshop some weeks ago.
I ordered Marl, Hilton, Seven Stars and RY4.
I received them and I must sadly say these are totally useless items.
Earlier on the item page in your webshop you said: "these flavours are very strong! Start with 1-2 drops, then add more if you like" or something like this.

Well I tried to add 1 drops of these to my No Flavour E-liquid.
Result=no taste at all.
Then I tried to add 2 drops.
Result=no taste.
I added 5 drops, 10 drops, 30 DROPS, but still.... NO TASTE.
The Flavour has definitely a smell. When I opened the bottles I felt it.
But they don't have taste!

Now I see the item description changed in your webshop to this:
"Usage: Use 15%~20% Flavoring in your e-juice recipe."

Well I tried that too, but it didn't work...
Still no taste!

So I just started to direct dripping the Flavour ITSELF onto the atty bridge.
THEN I felt something like a taste... still not very strong, but that's a taste.

So what kind of "concentrated strong Flavour" product is this?

This product reminds me of a simple 0mg E-liquid with flavouring.
This is not concentrated at all in my opinion.
I usually by E-liquid flavourings from the United States.
Well those are really able to create an E-liquid with two little drops (to 10ml).

But these Flavours you sent me, don't seem to be concentrated at all, just 0mg E-liquids.

What could you say about this?
I still would like to buy concentrated flavours of Marlboro, Ruyan 4 etc...
Will you sell REALLY concentrated versions of these flavours?

thanks in advance!
 

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I ordered 4 types of "Stronger Tobacco Flavours" for DIY in your webshop some weeks ago.
I ordered Marl, Hilton, Seven Stars and RY4.
I received them and I must sadly say these are totally useless items.
Earlier on the item page in your webshop you said: "these flavours are very strong! Start with 1-2 drops, then add more if you like" or something like this.

Well I tried to add 1 drops of these to my No Flavour E-liquid.
Result=no taste at all.
Then I tried to add 2 drops.
Result=no taste.
I added 5 drops, 10 drops, 30 DROPS, but still.... NO TASTE.
The Flavour has definitely a smell. When I opened the bottles I felt it.
But they don't have taste!

Now I see the item description changed in your webshop to this:
"Usage: Use 15%~20% Flavoring in your e-juice recipe."

Well I tried that too, but it didn't work...
Still no taste!

So I just started to direct dripping the Flavour ITSELF onto the atty bridge.
THEN I felt something like a taste... still not very strong, but that's a taste.

So what kind of "concentrated strong Flavour" product is this?

This product reminds me of a simple 0mg E-liquid with flavouring.
This is not concentrated at all in my opinion.
I usually by E-liquid flavourings from the United States.
Well those are really able to create an E-liquid with two little drops (to 10ml).

But these Flavours you sent me, don't seem to be concentrated at all, just 0mg E-liquids.

What could you say about this?
I still would like to buy concentrated flavours of Marlboro, Ruyan 4 etc...
Will you sell REALLY concentrated versions of these flavours?

thanks in advance!

I am sorry to read your post.

Yes. we did make an error when we started to sell tobacco flavour. we thought that they would be as highly concentrated as the non tobacco flavour are. but we were totally wrong.

we changed our statement about the tobacco flavour as soon as we were aware of our mistake.

at the same time we started to work on stronger ones.

we started to sell stronger tobacco flavour last week, after we did send 200pc freebie stronger tobacco flavour and got good feedback.

could you mind telling us when you ordered the tobacco flavour? the former one or the latter one?

if you ordered the former one, I am sorry that we misleaded you and we are willing to send new replacements to you as a compensation.

if you ordered the latter one, please let me know more. we need to research it.

thanks!

we are open with any feedback about our products, which will help us improve our products.

thank you for being honest with us.

we appreciate that very much!:)
 

Demon

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I am sorry to read your post.

Yes. we did make an error when we started to sell tobacco flavour. we thought that they would be as highly concentrated as the non tobacco flavour are. but we were totally wrong.

we changed our statement about the tobacco flavour as soon as we were aware of our mistake.

at the same time we started to work on stronger ones.

we started to sell stronger tobacco flavour last week, after we did send 200pc freebie stronger tobacco flavour and got good feedback.

could you mind telling us when you ordered the tobacco flavour? the former one or the latter one?

if you ordered the former one, I am sorry that we misleaded you and we are willing to send new replacements to you as a compensation.

if you ordered the latter one, please let me know more. we need to research it.

thanks!

we are open with any feedback about our products, which will help us improve our products.

thank you for being honest with us.

we appreciate that very much!:)

Well the Hilton, Marl and Seven Stars Flavours were indicated as "Tobacco Flavours".
The RY4 was indicated as "Stronger Tobacco Flavour". I received it as a freebie.
Unfortunately I haven't noticed any difference.
Even with direct dripping the "stronger" RY4 wasn't strong at all. (just dripping the Flavour itself it still wasn't strong enough to be tasted like a real RY4 E-liquid)
When I mixed it with E-liquid (even with 60-80% flavour) I haven't felt any taste. :-(
I ordered these stuff on 13th of July.
Have you changed anything after that date?
Did the "stronger" RY4 become even stronger maybe? That would be good.
 

newsunshine

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Well the Hilton, Marl and Seven Stars Flavours were indicated as "Tobacco Flavours".
The RY4 was indicated as "Stronger Tobacco Flavour". I received it as a freebie.
Unfortunately I haven't noticed any difference.
Even with direct dripping the "stronger" RY4 wasn't strong at all. (just dripping the Flavour itself it still wasn't strong enough to be tasted like a real RY4 E-liquid)
When I mixed it with E-liquid (even with 60-80% flavour) I haven't felt any taste. :-(
I ordered these stuff on 13th of July.
Have you changed anything after that date?
Did the "stronger" RY4 become even stronger maybe? That would be good.


thank you for your post. could you tell us your order number? so that we can check it.

i am sorry that we tried our best to get tobacco flavour stronger then the former one. but we are sure whether we can keep getting them stronger, because it will cost a lot of money, time and effort and need a lot of experiment. :(
 
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