Question about nicotine

[Cory Toth]

So I've been making my own juices for a month or so now with no problems. I use a calculator but one thing I can't wrap my head around is the nicotine calculations. I'm probably just an idiot for this and there's a super simple answer, but anyway...

So when you order it, it's in mg (24mg, 36mg, 100mg, etc.) Well, there are 100mg/ml, so wouldn't that make the 100mg nicotine 10%? People make 12% or higher strength juices.. Sorry for the ignorance, but what am I missing?

 

[Joergl100]

No, they make 12‰, that is 12mg/ml...not 12%....120mg/ml, which would sure knock You out!

 

[Izan]

Hi and welcome,

"pure" nicotine liquid is 1000 MG/ML.
The 100 mg/ml "base" that is used for DIY is only a 10% concentration.
We dilute the 10% (100mg/ml) for final use.
IE:12mg/ml is 1.2%, 6mg/ml is 0.6%, 3mg/ml is 0.3%.

Cheers
I

 

[retired1]

No, they make 12‰, that is 12mg/ml...not 12%....120mg/ml, which would sure knock You out!

Incorrect. 12mg/ml would be 1.2%.

This is one of the reasons why we encourage members to talk strictly in mg per ml when discussing e-liquid strengths.

 

[Joergl100]

It sure IS correct...because I wrote permille, not percent! ‰, not %!

 

[retired1]

It sure IS correct...because I wrote permille, not percent! ‰, not %!

No. Measurements whether it be in percentages or milligrams is always per milliliter. 12% would be 120 mg. 1.2% is 12mg. Again, this is why we request that folks not use percentages as many get confused and put the wrong percentages when talking about e-liquid strengths.

 

[Smoke_too_much]

Actually I find the mg/ml confusing, percentages to me are straight forward calculations. I believe Joergle100 is correct in saying that 12/1000 = 1.2/100 or 0.012.

 

[speedy_r6]

No. Measurements whether it be in percentages or milligrams is always per milliliter. 12% would be 120 mg. 1.2% is 12mg. Again, this is why we request that folks not use percentages as many get confused and put the wrong percentages when talking about e-liquid strengths.

He is correct. He did not use percent(%). He used permille(‰). 12‰ is the same as saying 1.2%.

Permille Conversion Chart (Fractions and Percent Converter, Percentages And Parts)

 

[retired1]

He is correct. He did not use percent(%). He used permille(‰). 12‰ is the same as saying 1.2%.

Permille Conversion Chart (Fractions and Percent Converter, Percentages And Parts)

Don't use those symbols please. All it will do is confuse new DIYers.

 

[speedy_r6]

Don't use those symbols please. All it will do is confuse new DIYers.

I typically don't. I was simply using them in one post to point out the difference. I prefer using #mg.

 

[BrotherBob]

So I've been making my own juices for a month or so now with no problems. I use a calculator but one thing I can't wrap my head around is the nicotine calculations. I'm probably just an idiot for this and there's a super simple answer, but anyway...
So when you order it, it's in mg (24mg, 36mg, 100mg, etc.) Well, there are 100mg/ml, so wouldn't that make the 100mg nicotine 10%? People make 12% or higher strength juices.. Sorry for the ignorance, but what am I missing?

Welcome and glad you joined. For more head wrapping.
Might like to read:
General - What do the numbers or % in Nicotine e Liquid (e.g. 0 mg, 12 mg, 18 mg) mean?

 

[WillyZee]

maybe the confused DIY crowd can learn something from this thread ... I just don't see the reason to censor the membership.

percent(%) vs permille(‰). 12‰ is the same as saying 1.2%.

 

[zoiDman]

So I've been making my own juices for a month or so now with no problems. I use a calculator but one thing I can't wrap my head around is the nicotine calculations. I'm probably just an idiot for this and there's a super simple answer, but anyway...

So when you order it, it's in mg (24mg, 36mg, 100mg, etc.) Well, there are 100mg/ml, so wouldn't that make the 100mg nicotine 10%? People make 12% or higher strength juices.. Sorry for the ignorance, but what am I missing?

You not an Idiot.

And I think what is Confuses People is that Many Times other Incorrectly write what they are Using.

Take that 12%. 12% Nicotine = 120mg/ml

120mg/ml is Unvapeble.

What that person Probably meant to say is that they make 1.2%. Which would be 12mg/ml.

Couple this with the Mantra that is Pounded into people's head since Grade School that to Obtain a Percentage you should Divide by 100.

Instead of the Concept that a Percentage is the Part you have Divided by the Total Amount Possible.

In Our Case, the Total amount of Nicotine Possible to have in 1 Milliliter is (roughly) 1000mg's. So to obtain a Percentage, we should be Dividing by 1000.

 

[tckenno]

Geesh I read Joergl100's post as percent also. 1.2 per hundred same as 12 per thousand. Where is that key on the keyboard? Have never seen that symbol used...

 

[Joergl100]

alt-0137 at the numerical pad.

Here You can find the possible keys: How to type all symbols

 

[coldgin96]

Seriously? permille(‰)? C'mon folks... I don't believe in censorship but let's keep it real, please. We have enough problems without added confusion. I was a chemical operator for 23 years, 10 months and 10 daze with my last job being a lab tech at that Hellhole and I never heard of, permille(‰).

Thank you.

 

[retired1]

maybe the confused DIY crowd can learn something from this thread ... I just don't see the reason to censor the membership.

percent(%) vs permille(‰). 12‰ is the same as saying 1.2%.

It's not a case of censorship. It's a case of safety. Keep to the standards and don't get fancy with terms that are not commonly known or used.

 

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