Question about PG/VG mixing with flavor extracts

[neosis911]

Hi everyone, I'm new here. I Would have posted this in the sub thread but it won't let me yet. I'm just getting into DIY liquid and I'm trying to figure out how measurements work for VG/PG ratio. I was trying to aim for max VG, but all the flavor extracts I ordered have a PG base. My question is, If your using a VG base nic, but all you flavor extracts contain PG as a base, if I aim for 20% flavor will I end up with a 80/20 VG/PG mix? I'm sure this will vary depending on each individual flavor and vendor but as a general rule I'm just curious.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Rsunderl]

Hi neosis and welcome aboard!

For all things DIY head on over to the DIY ELiquid Forum .

You will not be able to post there until you get in your first 5 posts and the servers update at :25 past the hour. Make sure to read all the "stickies". Also check out the blogs by ECF members Hoosier, dannyv45 & Bill .

dannyv45 posted this thread a while ago. Recommended Reading For People New to DYI.

For a juice mixing calculator consider using eJuiceMeUp

Here are some threads you may like to read through for different flavoring companies. Many of the posts include recipes and comments about a specific flavor.

1. Flavor Arts (FA) - Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings
2. The Flavor Apprentice (TFA) - The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread
3. Inawera (IW) - Inawera - a few reviews
4. Hangsen - The Hangsen Thread
5. VapingZone (VZ) - New Super Concentrated Flavors & New Super Concentrated Flavors - Part 2

The DIY Vendor list can be found here: DIY Vendor Supply List

DIY Recipe Sites

* ECF E-Liquid Recipes <= Place to post your recipes here on ECF
* EcigExpress Archive Cookbook
* E-Liquid Recipes UK
* kritikalmass - E-Liquid Recipes
* One Stop DIY Shop - Recipes

The Juice calculator above should help you with your answer and is ver handy to have.

Good luck with your DIY'ing and Happy Vaping!

 

[Serielle Vapist]

Hey Neo, check out this little program its called "E Juice Me Up". It's free and it will give you the exact amounts down to the decimal milliliter measurements of each ingredient. Just plug in the stuff you got, nic, pg, vg, and different flavors, % amounts of each and hit calculate. I use it to mix my juice, works great!
Good Luck

 

[Bikenstein]

I'll second..uh..third that on the ejuicemeup calculator.

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

Edit: Welcome

 

[Sgt.Rock]

My question is, If your using a VG base nic, but all you flavor extracts contain PG as a base, if I aim for 20% flavor will I end up with a 80/20 VG/PG mix?

Yep! Exactly...

 

[neosis911]

thanks for the suggestion, I was having trouble finding a calculator that that took flavor base as a consideration

 

[Serielle Vapist]

Locve E juice me up, easy to use, and cant beat the price for free

 

[neosis911]

thanks for the link. just downloaded it

 

[Bikenstein]

Yep! Exactly...

I agree with the Sarge, your math is right. That's why some vendor's MAX VG is 80/20.

 

[Mechanical Andrew]

Almost all flavors are pg based. I believe "max vg" is just a vendor's way of describing a mixture that has as much vg as possible despite being only 80/20 or 70/30. You're just not going to get a juice that's 100/0.

 

[Bikenstein]

All you need is a couple more posts

 

[Bikenstein]

Almost all flavors are pg based. I believe "max vg" is just a vendor's way of describing a mixture that has as much vg as possible despite being only 80/20 or 70/30. You're just not going to get a juice that's 100/0.

Yeah most all my flavors are pg based even the EM and AP I use. 20 per cent flavor generally is a good place to be and I know some vendors who call their 80/20 juice max vg but I'm thinkin they are fudging on that as another vendor's juice at 80/20 not only has a thicker viscosity but blows clouds on it. But mixin your own, you know what you got. You can get juice pg free

 

[Serielle Vapist]

The only thing I smoke now is in my Weber Smoky Mountain

HA HA yes indeed, all I smoke now in my old weber grill and my old brinks C-coal kettle smoker too

 

[timcollier]

you are correct, there is no way of vaping 100%vg unless you vape just the vg by itself. i have been making mine for awhile and i found the best mix for 30ml is 20.0ml of vg, 2.5 ml for nic. vg based, and thats a 3mg for 30ml. and the rest flavors, which should be 7.5 ml of flavors.

 

[Mechanical Andrew]

I am assuming that people tend to lean toward high viscosity/high vg juice just because it produces thicker clouds. However, I have had bad experiences with thick, syrupy juices that just get extremely hot and taste like burnt .... The thickest I'll go now is 50/50.

 

[Bikenstein]

Use a pg based nicotine or no nic, vg, and pg free flavoring. Not 100% vg because you added flavoring even though it was pg free. You are still vapin Flavored VG.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...pg-free-flavorings-vendors-who-sell-them.html

Also premixed juice 100% VG. Here's 2
Heather's Heavenly Vapes-- Purity line
Clouds of Vapor

SV................you ever do briskets in your smoker?

 

[HitShane]

Just did 3 chickens, 60 wings, and a pork .... in mine Boy was I craving a analog, but I was able to curve the craving by turning up my iStick some and chain vaping haha...

 

[Bikenstein]

I guess you were wantin a smoke after that. my bride below gets like that right after she eats! I cook like that too. Everytime I smoke a brisket, I'll throw a .... and some ribs or somethin in there too to take advantage of the time required to set up and cook. Too much good smoking to waste.