Question about Tennessee Cured clone recipe

[op22222]

I am new to DIY and have a question. I have been vaping Tennessee Cured Royal Oak line for over a year now and have attempted to duplicate it to no avail...
I did however find a recipe on-line and am wondering if anyone out there has tried it yet.
Also, if they did what was the outcome. I don't have all the ingredients right now and don't want have to go and buy all of them and then find out this recipe sucks. I would of course use VG in the recipe instead of the PG it calls for. Thanks

https://sites.google.com/site/eliquidrecipecopycat/home

 

[fogMann]

I have just started my quest for the same thing and haven't found any recipes. That's strange since Johnson Creek is one of the largest juice vendors. You'd think there'd be at least a little interest in cloning this.

Go back and re-read info on that link carefully. The author is talking about a recipe calculator and he used that recipe as a hypothetical (ie - fake formula) example just to illustrate the method. He states that he hasn't actually made it. I have been looking at ingredients and did buy some TFA Hickory since that sounds like it might fit. Yikes - it tastes like Barbeque sauce and I doubt that it has a place in this formula. (perhaps a very tiny touch in the background.)

I think I identify some clove in there. Not sure what else. The small bottle of JC juice I did have is very old and most of the flavor has gone. I need to buy another bottle to check it again before I can really continue.

Are there any flavor types in the juice that you can put your finger on?

 

[op22222]

Yes, I did realize that it was an example of his......but.......the recipe itself does sound logical enough. I figured that some of the veteran DIY's out there might already have the ingredients it calls for and was hoping for some for input. If your saying that hickory tastes like BBQ sauce, then I agree, I don't taste that at all in ROTC. I mostly taste burnt caramel/cappuccino and maybe some hazelnut in ROTC. I'm ordering some ethyl maltol. It supposed to have some notes of burnt caramel in it as well as being a sweetener. I have some JC clove in stock. One Stop has their Memorial day sale going on right now so it might order one of their kits with eight flavors for 34.95. (One of their flavors is Caramel/cappuccino). Thanks for your reply.

 

[SthrnCelt]

op22222 I don't know if you ever tried to recreate TC but since reading your OP I decided I'd give it a try. Couldn't find the TH Enhancer but did find everything else. I'm sure that one item would not add to or take away from any flavor. JC just stated yesterday that they have this available in 0.6% which is nice but I want to see if making it myself would eliminate some of the gunking issues I've had in the past with this juice. The flavors sound reasonable but I detect a bit of coffee...strong black coffee. I have some good Mocha flavoring I may play with and I'll come back here once I've gotten my supplies and tried.

 

[op22222]

That would be great ......looking foward to your results. Thanks

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[SthrnCelt]

Ok, here are the results. I haven't even gotten the Creamy Caramel concentrate yet, but the Tobacco, Burley, Vanilla Swirl and Hickory Smoke all came in yesterday. I had some RY4 Double concentrate lying around which could stand in a little for the missing Caramel flavor and the tobaccos. But......

The recipe from the link is nonsense. First of all I have a bottle of TC right here (most always do) and I can say with 100% certainty that neither of the tobacco concentrates suggested are remotely correct. Perhaps there is some kind of pipe tobacco flavoring used by JC...I don't know, but it's definitely not the two suggested. Frankly I think they give off the aroma of urine...not something I want to vape. And then the question remains: where did this person get the idea for these flavors being in TC? Well, reading from JC's website it states

This rich and smoky tobacco flavor will charm you from the first puff with hints of burnt caramel and vanilla that combine with a smooth, mesquite vapor.

Ok, so smoky tobacco flavor and mesquite. Well hickory doesn't quite do that on it's own . Actually, I haven't looked to see if I can find a mesquite smoke flavor but it would certainly have a different characteristic than hickory. Mesquite is sweeter, and that's something that stands out in Tennessee Cured...a sweetness that goes beyond that which VG will impart. It's not so much a sweetness in taste as it is in aroma. But the caramel? Well JC says Burnt Caramel and I have to admit that if caramel is a component at all, burnt caramel indeed does sound right. That being said, I've held this juice to my nose dozens of times trying to pull the individual scents so as to identify its parts. Sometimes I think I smell toffee and other times I smell something minty. The flavors of coffee, caramel, Jack Daniels, all sorts of things seem to be in there. But just as soon as you think you've identified a flavor, it vanishes into the complexity this juice is known for. So what does it smell like? Well Tennessee Cured, of course. I will keep trying to crack the code on this one, but in the meantime nothing beats the genuine thing, and I'm about to order some of their low-nic kind to see how it does on my mod. As for the Hickory Smoke...well a tiny bit of this stuff goes a LONG way, but it sure is cool to add it to other things just for a little variety. Like hey man...ever had a grilled banana? It's pretty good.

 

[op22222]

I love grilled bananas !!! LOL . Maybe someday we'll crack the code. Next week I have to get more juice bases and I'll will be ordering some different flavors to experiment with. Do you taste a slight undertone of candyapple??? anyway...I'm down to one 30ml bottle of TC and only smoke it in my rotation. I appreciate your findings and thoughts on this.

 

[Crunktanium]

Ry4 comes to mind with the vanilla and caramel.

 

[SthrnCelt]

Just got back from visiting a local B&M shop which also mixes their own flavor. I took my bottle of TC in and man was that funny watching them pass my bottle around, drip on to their 510's, and smell the bottle over and over. But it appears they may have cracked the code...to a degree. They mixed me up a batch using Virginia Flu Cured, Caramel, Coffee and a flavor called "Ashtray." I'll have to say this is very, very close. They have committed to getting it nailed down and also commented how the Original kills atty's like many have complained. So, now that this is getting close to being figured out, stay tuned and once I know for sure they have it I'll do my best to put some precise flavor/ratios here. As for that original recipe from the "copycat" all I can say is....anyone need some tobacco and burley flavor? Going cheap

 

[op22222]

Just got back from visiting a local B&M shop which also mixes their own flavor. I took my bottle of TC in and man was that funny watching them pass my bottle around, drip on to their 510's, and smell the bottle over and over. But it appears they may have cracked the code...to a degree. They mixed me up a batch using Virginia Flu Cured, Caramel, Coffee and a flavor called "Ashtray." I'll have to say this is very, very close. They have committed to getting it nailed down and also commented how the Original kills atty's like many have complained. So, now that this is getting close to being figured out, stay tuned and once I know for sure they have it I'll do my best to put some precise flavor/ratios here. As for that original recipe from the "copycat" all I can say is....anyone need some tobacco and burley flavor? Going cheap

Wow! that's great.........Thanks............ I'll be ordering those flavors. . I vaped TC exclusively for well over a year. The only way I could afford the coils was to learn how to rebuild them on a Kanger T2 . I also dilute the Royal Oak TC with 25% of their Johnsons Creek TC. I loses a little bit of flavor but it's much easier on the coils. When I am home I drip pure ROTC. I do believe that it has to be made with pure VG to capture the correct flavor.