My mother claims she has seen a television ad for Blu cigs. Not sure that would be a good idea. Can anyone confirm?
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its true, they do have ads on TV. Though I've never seen one as I live in Canada and I believe they don't air here, I have seen numerous other forum-goers comment on this. DO NOT QUESTION YOUR MOTHER!
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/314318-has-anyone-seen-blu-e-cig-tv-commercial.html
I think there's a link to the video on YT there.
I think there's a link to the video on YT there.
I've seen it and I like the idea of educating people on them.That way you won't get so many wierd looks.
I've seen the commercial for Blue e cigs a few times. It's good to let people know what a e cig is and what they do. Maybe it will help more people learn of e cigs are quit a nasty habit. When I vape at work I go outside with the smokers, many ask what is that thing? I hand out business cards from a local vape store and explain what it is and suggest they come to ecf. I bought a blu to start with, it didn't cut it. I then found ecf and promptly ordered a vv device and some high octane juice. I think the blu is widely available so people can try vaping somewhat cheaply. I also think the blu is a piece of crap. I went back to analogs due to the blu always being dead and not very good flavors. But that's my opinion. I think commercials on e cigs are basically a good thing to educate people.
Yes, there is a Blu commercial. There are two of them I have seen. The first one shows the guy talking about them, but never actually taking a puff on one, he puts it up to his mouth but won't puff on it. The second one, the guy actually will puff on it. So, yes, your mother was right. 99.9999% of the time, they usually are.
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I'm just not sure the best way of informing the various government bodies about vaping is via a media that banned tobacco ads years ago.
I have to admit I've gotten paranoid that some administrator will get high-handed and, say, declare PVs to be medical devices. I can't think of any supplier that could afford to run all the tests in order to sell hardware, let alone software. Even if they could, it would take years ! Meanwhile, all of us end up as modern day rum runners and bootleggers! Let's face it; Junior Johnson couldn't get speed out of a hybrid!
I have to admit I've gotten paranoid that some administrator will get high-handed and, say, declare PVs to be medical devices. I can't think of any supplier that could afford to run all the tests in order to sell hardware, let alone software. Even if they could, it would take years ! Meanwhile, all of us end up as modern day rum runners and bootleggers! Let's face it; Junior Johnson couldn't get speed out of a hybrid!
That media didn't ban the commercials. Laws were pass that did.
The PVs as medical devices has already been tried in the courts and the FDA lost that battle.
The FDA has already tried to ban them by declaring them a medical device, but were stopped by the judicial branch...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ads-everything-relevant-njoy-vs-fda-case.html
This is no longer a legitimate concern.
They are now forced to turn to tobacco legislation to accomplish their goals...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html
Their intentions have been made clear in their attempt to ban them.
And in their world-famous press release where they used misleading propaganda to try and turn the public against ecigs...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-regarding-fda-press-release-7-22-repost.html
Blu can currently air such advertisements because electronic cigarettes are not yet officially a tobacco product.
If the FDA has their way, and extends Chapter IX of the FSPTCA to cover electronic cigarettes, we may not see any more such commercials.
Oh, and we may see them come after flavors.
And we may see them come after bottled juice.
And we may see them come after internet sales.
And we may see legislative bodies try to lump them with highly taxed products.
So we need to be aware, vigilant, but also realize that we can do something about this.
So read the Electronic Cigarette News subforums, because this is where we fight for vapers...
Electronic Cigarette News
And everyone that teaches someone else about electronic cigarettes is making a difference too.
Whether that be friends, family, co-workers, or complete strangers.
We'll need as many of them as we can get on our side when the it hits the fan.
funny thing is, Lorillard (3rd largest tobacco manufacturer in the world I believe) just bought Blu. I wonder if these means we now have a deep-pocketed lobbyist on our side, or if it's simply Big Tobacco trying to corner the market?
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Whatever it means I hope they keep doing it and on a large basis. The more people that see those ads and think about them and try an e cig the better it will be for all of us as we go down the road. People have a history of finding better things when something doesn't work out for them, and Blu has been an introduction to many who have moved up when they found there was more to be had that was better.
I think the FDA is busy trying to cover it's collective .... with the revelations about them spying on their own scientists who were trying to tell legislators that they were being forced to approve dangerous radiological equipment against the evidence that they were dangerous to the people they were being used on. Maybe they will be too busy with damage control to react quickly enough to Blu getting out the word via advertising. One can always hope, and I think Blu with its new ownership will fight if challenged. They certainly have deep enough pockets and lobbyists to burn.
My only concern is for small businesses really. I would hate to see this industry, coupled with BT and the FDA (or Health Canada up here) get cornered and become another tobacco industry, where the only players are multinational multi-billion dollar companies with no regard for the little guys.
Perhaps the little guys should band together into a trade organization so they have more clout. I read somewhere there has been some effort to interest them in doing so, but so far nothing has come of it. By little guys, I mean all the companies who have physical stores and/or websites and are in the business of e cigs and juice.
I share your apprehensions about what Blu might do if they become dominant in 'helping' the FDA draft regulations. One can envision only sealed non refillable cartridges for sale, etc. Hopefully this will not happen.
But too many people have been led down the road by the Antz already and the public needs to know that they are being, have been, sold a bill of goods by these organizations whose very existence is doomed if vaping becomes mainstream.
When the majority of current smokers stop inhaling the chemicals from burning tobacco COPD largely goes away, maybe lungs stop becoming cancerous from chemicals and big pharma loses money from lack of need for their hideously expensive drugs.
Big pharma funds all of these organizations and they do big pharma's bidding.
Follow the money trail to all the 'scientists' who are funded by big pharma to manipulate the data for the public's consumption. Dr. Siegel is on the case there. Revelation after revelation about the conflicts of interest rampant in the scientific propaganda field of 'tobacco and NRT studies'.
I share your apprehensions about what Blu might do if they become dominant in 'helping' the FDA draft regulations. One can envision only sealed non refillable cartridges for sale, etc. Hopefully this will not happen.
But too many people have been led down the road by the Antz already and the public needs to know that they are being, have been, sold a bill of goods by these organizations whose very existence is doomed if vaping becomes mainstream.
When the majority of current smokers stop inhaling the chemicals from burning tobacco COPD largely goes away, maybe lungs stop becoming cancerous from chemicals and big pharma loses money from lack of need for their hideously expensive drugs.
Big pharma funds all of these organizations and they do big pharma's bidding.
Follow the money trail to all the 'scientists' who are funded by big pharma to manipulate the data for the public's consumption. Dr. Siegel is on the case there. Revelation after revelation about the conflicts of interest rampant in the scientific propaganda field of 'tobacco and NRT studies'.
Oh yes, I'm familiar with the Corporatocracy that is North America, and that is exactly why I'm concerned. I too have heard of the ECTA (electronic cigarette trade association), but last I read their threads here were locked because they were not in fact operational yet. Though things may have changed since I last checked. I do know that since PVs came to North America some five years ago, sales have been virtually doubling every year. The industry is still in its infancy, and sooner or later vaping will become mainstream. 2.7% of American smokers have tried them, up from something like 0.6% last year. Guess all we can do in the interim is stick together, voice our opinions, and hope for the best.
I don't see how that will be avoided. I think e-cigs are the future of "smoking". Eventually the present big players will become the PM and RJR and the small players will be the Lorillards. The mom & pops will be pipe tobacco and RYO.
That's the nature of popular business.
I know what you mean, and that's fine, it's the barriers to entry to the market that concern me. You can't just go and start your own cigarette companies these days, as the market is over-saturated and controlled by BT, and there are too many regulations to be followed for a mom and pop to get started without serious financial backing. PVs are still niche, and while they may become mainstream, I just hope the market stays free and self-regulated so that people like you and me, should we choose to, can open up shop.
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