so i have a njoy, and its the one with more ceramics, i believe its the newest atomizer. any ways when i drop one or two drops from my cartridge, i get about maybe two hits of smoke, or i get no smoke at all. is there something i am doing wrong?
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Is that dry smoking? I thought that was dripping - putting some liquid directly on the atomizer. I thought dry smoking was using nothing at all. But I'm really unsure of definitions - been at this for 3 wks only.nonaestet said:
From what I have consumed from this forum, the njoy does not need the additional drops.
Also, the njoy advises that you hold the end down - not up like a cigarette. This provides a better vapor.
I believe NC is correct in the definitions. They are in the top threads of this forum.
Also, the njoy advises that you hold the end down - not up like a cigarette. This provides a better vapor.
I believe NC is correct in the definitions. They are in the top threads of this forum.
nonaestet said:
Does it produce vapor by using it normally with the cartridge? Not understanding exactly on what you mean by one or two drops from your cartridge.. are you squeezing the liquid out of the cartridge then when you try smoking are you putting a cartridge back in or just using the black mouthpiece afterwards? I'm confused.. I need more info in order to help ... Sorry
e-girl said:
this of course depends on how much vapour the user requires.. you for example might be happy.. i for example am 100% sure i would need to drip them all or at least drip the end of the carts quite often to get enough vapour..
so might your marlboro smoking hubby.. he he
trog
Here's how I do e-smoking, based on what I've learned: The amount of vapor a device produces determines the quantity of nicotine that reaches your bloodstream and brain. The vapor is a carrier of nicotine. More vapor, more nicotine deposited in your lungs. Less vapor, less nicotine. Soooo...
I have a favorite e-cigar that is now almost five months old. Never had a failure with it. Never had large quantities of vapor either. But it satisfies me on many levels. I use "extra high" 24mg E-Liquid in it. Very little vapor; very high nicotine content. The wispy vapors are satisfying.
If I use the same liquid in Meltrex's pen-style Electronic Cigarette, it blows my head off. The nic hit is so great -- because I get clouds of vapor -- that my head spins (that is not good and not welcome). For that e-cig, medium or low strength E-Liquid is fine. Eventually, I want no-nicotine liquid.
Hope this helps you match liquid to cig. What you need is based on the device and your level of addiction. Just FYI: I don't drip or dry smoke. Too much trouble and the device has to work the way it's intended or it's no good.
I have a favorite e-cigar that is now almost five months old. Never had a failure with it. Never had large quantities of vapor either. But it satisfies me on many levels. I use "extra high" 24mg E-Liquid in it. Very little vapor; very high nicotine content. The wispy vapors are satisfying.
If I use the same liquid in Meltrex's pen-style Electronic Cigarette, it blows my head off. The nic hit is so great -- because I get clouds of vapor -- that my head spins (that is not good and not welcome). For that e-cig, medium or low strength E-Liquid is fine. Eventually, I want no-nicotine liquid.
Hope this helps you match liquid to cig. What you need is based on the device and your level of addiction. Just FYI: I don't drip or dry smoke. Too much trouble and the device has to work the way it's intended or it's no good.
i must be bad case bob.. if i dont get huge clouds of vapour from 24 mg liquid i aint happy.. a very bad case by the sounds of it.. he he he
mind u your long lasting wispy cigar kinda backs up my suspicion the less smoke they produce the longer they last.. but then again it seems u are trying to lose the nicotine habit altogether.. at present i am just after something that vaguely resembles one of my Virginia roll-ups in its nicotine delivering abilities.. reliably and consistantly that is.. not just when it feels like it..
trog
mind u your long lasting wispy cigar kinda backs up my suspicion the less smoke they produce the longer they last.. but then again it seems u are trying to lose the nicotine habit altogether.. at present i am just after something that vaguely resembles one of my Virginia roll-ups in its nicotine delivering abilities.. reliably and consistantly that is.. not just when it feels like it..
trog
Trog, you be bad! True.
For me, I don't get the nicotine I need from e-smoking. Just hasn't happened. I use small snus pouches every day, all day. Plus smoke a real pipe about four times a day. I love the hard tobacco pieces called Stonewall that dissolve in the mouth over 45 minutes. I use them first thing in the morning and after all food. So inhaling 24mg liquid doesn't satisfy me at all. But mix it with, say, a "high nicotine" snus and it can flatten a person. I have overdosed in the past months.
I wanted e-smoking for use at home. Period. Never in public (it won't be accepted). I e-smoke as I work on the computer, which is what I do all day, so this has been a big help. In a restaurant, I slide a snus into place. At a theater, I've got a snus in place. While I travel, a Stonewall is dissolving.
I've been off cigarettes for 319 days now (I mark a calendar every day) after smoking 30 cigs a day for 50 years. No one thing can "save" me. E-smoking helps the physical gesture part. Snus takes care of the nicotine. A real pipe smoked on a porch morning and night provides the taste and flavor I miss with everything else. Each of us has to find our own route to satisfaction. It has taken me many failed attempts at quitting cigs to find mine.
Nicotine is many things .. but good for you is not one of them. I hope someday to kick this highly addictive drug, with the help of e-smoking flavored vapor.
For me, I don't get the nicotine I need from e-smoking. Just hasn't happened. I use small snus pouches every day, all day. Plus smoke a real pipe about four times a day. I love the hard tobacco pieces called Stonewall that dissolve in the mouth over 45 minutes. I use them first thing in the morning and after all food. So inhaling 24mg liquid doesn't satisfy me at all. But mix it with, say, a "high nicotine" snus and it can flatten a person. I have overdosed in the past months.
I wanted e-smoking for use at home. Period. Never in public (it won't be accepted). I e-smoke as I work on the computer, which is what I do all day, so this has been a big help. In a restaurant, I slide a snus into place. At a theater, I've got a snus in place. While I travel, a Stonewall is dissolving.
I've been off cigarettes for 319 days now (I mark a calendar every day) after smoking 30 cigs a day for 50 years. No one thing can "save" me. E-smoking helps the physical gesture part. Snus takes care of the nicotine. A real pipe smoked on a porch morning and night provides the taste and flavor I miss with everything else. Each of us has to find our own route to satisfaction. It has taken me many failed attempts at quitting cigs to find mine.
Nicotine is many things .. but good for you is not one of them. I hope someday to kick this highly addictive drug, with the help of e-smoking flavored vapor.
off cigaretttes but not off tobacco in a pipe and needing snus.. hmmm.. so basically it could be said e smoking aint doing the business for u bob.. just a placebo in your long and hard proccess of kicking the nicotine habit all together..
me 45 years of smoking.. last few years roughly 50 very skinny but strong tobacco roll-ups.. first day of e smoking i cut the roll-ups down to ten a day without any pain..
i now have three or four very skinny roll-ups per day.. my smokers cough instantly disappeared.. i consider myself off cigarettes.. not in any way shape or form off nicotine but that was never my intention..
i dont consider nicotine overly bad for me.. it helps keep me sane.. it makes me a more tolerant human meaning.. i am all for nicotine as a mind altering substance.. i really have no desire to get off it..
the long term affect of inhaling glycerol does bother me a bit but the instantly disappearing cough gives me hope there.. bearing in mind my lungs aint young and heathly ones more like veteran years of abuse ones.. he he he
a better example would be my oldest son.. now in his early forties.. he has suffered from chronic schizophrenia all his adult life.. like most mental health sufferers he chain smokes.. its par for the course and pre no smoking hysteria days the doctors let them get on with it.. its a self applied part of their drug therapy.. its helps keep them "saner" as well..
if there is a good example of the benefits of e smoking my eldest son is it.. his death hack cough also instantly disappeared he is now happily puffing away on his e-cig pipe on three skinny roll-ups per day.. and by his standards pretty sane.. he he he
the impossible has been achieved.. my mentally ill son is now no longer killing himself (and sounding like it) at a great rate of knots due to excessive tobacco smoking.. no placebo effect here.. just large doses of reliably delivered 24 mg e smoking vapour..
reliable delivery and cost is still a problem thow..
trog
me 45 years of smoking.. last few years roughly 50 very skinny but strong tobacco roll-ups.. first day of e smoking i cut the roll-ups down to ten a day without any pain..
i now have three or four very skinny roll-ups per day.. my smokers cough instantly disappeared.. i consider myself off cigarettes.. not in any way shape or form off nicotine but that was never my intention..
i dont consider nicotine overly bad for me.. it helps keep me sane.. it makes me a more tolerant human meaning.. i am all for nicotine as a mind altering substance.. i really have no desire to get off it..
the long term affect of inhaling glycerol does bother me a bit but the instantly disappearing cough gives me hope there.. bearing in mind my lungs aint young and heathly ones more like veteran years of abuse ones.. he he he
a better example would be my oldest son.. now in his early forties.. he has suffered from chronic schizophrenia all his adult life.. like most mental health sufferers he chain smokes.. its par for the course and pre no smoking hysteria days the doctors let them get on with it.. its a self applied part of their drug therapy.. its helps keep them "saner" as well..
if there is a good example of the benefits of e smoking my eldest son is it.. his death hack cough also instantly disappeared he is now happily puffing away on his e-cig pipe on three skinny roll-ups per day.. and by his standards pretty sane.. he he he
the impossible has been achieved.. my mentally ill son is now no longer killing himself (and sounding like it) at a great rate of knots due to excessive tobacco smoking.. no placebo effect here.. just large doses of reliably delivered 24 mg e smoking vapour..
reliable delivery and cost is still a problem thow..
trog
Sorry, we drifted badly off topic .. but you're right. It was not my intent to quit nicotine, but to quit inhaling smoke into my lungs. By that measure, I've succeeded (but not without cravings). I'm only THINKING of the day I might try to kick nicotine. Certainly not tomorrow!
I understand how nicotine helps your son. Patches even help children with ADHD. Nicotine is a drug ... not without benefits and dangers, as is true of most drugs. For me, it elevates blood pressure and heart rate (demonstrably by tests in a doctor's office) and hastens hardening of the arteries. Aside from addiction, I have no reason to continue it as part of my life. I need it solely because of a lifetime addiction.
When I quit inhaling smoke, my own cough mostly disappeared. I find the PG gives me an occasional "hack", but nothing like the rattling coughs you hear from smokers. Every time I hear those, I reaffirm my intent to never go back to cigarettes. Now, back to dry smoking topic .... sorry.
I understand how nicotine helps your son. Patches even help children with ADHD. Nicotine is a drug ... not without benefits and dangers, as is true of most drugs. For me, it elevates blood pressure and heart rate (demonstrably by tests in a doctor's office) and hastens hardening of the arteries. Aside from addiction, I have no reason to continue it as part of my life. I need it solely because of a lifetime addiction.
When I quit inhaling smoke, my own cough mostly disappeared. I find the PG gives me an occasional "hack", but nothing like the rattling coughs you hear from smokers. Every time I hear those, I reaffirm my intent to never go back to cigarettes. Now, back to dry smoking topic .... sorry.
its not really off topic bob.. its very relevant.. you for example say use the device as intended.. but on the other hand u say in a very round about way u dont want much smoke and only really use the device as placebo..
you also say in a very contradictory kinda way the e smoke dosnt give u the needed hit but then again u say a decent e cig blows your head off..
basically using the device in the intended way produces less smoke than the none intended ways.. but the device might last longer..
i consider u an expert bob.. but a very confused and addicted one taking or using far tooo many alternative nicotine delivery methods to actually be able to realistically evaluate any single one of them.. he he he..
take my son.. if the device i provide for him dosnt deliver the needed nicotine or vapour in sufficient quantities the result is pretty simple.. he instantly goes back to the roll-ups.. the device u like and use as a placebo would instantly fail him.. i kinda simplify this and see it as a nicotine delivery system.. on demand when u want it.. it either works or it dosnt.. so far none of the devices i have tried.. used as they are intended to be used work properly.. they do not delivery the nicotine reliably enough..
my son might not be entirely sane but he is saner than most it seems.. he aint fooled by any placebo.. he he he
trog
ps..u are right we all want different things.. but unless we first define what is wanted telling someone how to get it isnt of much use..
you also say in a very contradictory kinda way the e smoke dosnt give u the needed hit but then again u say a decent e cig blows your head off..
basically using the device in the intended way produces less smoke than the none intended ways.. but the device might last longer..
i consider u an expert bob.. but a very confused and addicted one taking or using far tooo many alternative nicotine delivery methods to actually be able to realistically evaluate any single one of them.. he he he..
take my son.. if the device i provide for him dosnt deliver the needed nicotine or vapour in sufficient quantities the result is pretty simple.. he instantly goes back to the roll-ups.. the device u like and use as a placebo would instantly fail him.. i kinda simplify this and see it as a nicotine delivery system.. on demand when u want it.. it either works or it dosnt.. so far none of the devices i have tried.. used as they are intended to be used work properly.. they do not delivery the nicotine reliably enough..
my son might not be entirely sane but he is saner than most it seems.. he aint fooled by any placebo.. he he he
trog
ps..u are right we all want different things.. but unless we first define what is wanted telling someone how to get it isnt of much use..
Yeh, I like the exchange/information too, even if it is a bit off the posted topic.
One thing I have done is test each nicotine delivery method for a day by itself. Some worked fine -- snus and the Meltrix pen style e-cig, for instance. But I came to understand that I enjoyed rotating these methods. I use whatever I want at the moment. And the e-smoking devices are wonderful placebos for any smoker. Nothing wrong with that. I actually use my pathetic e-cigar with its wispy vapors as often as the excellent pen style with its clouds of vapors. I just enjoy handling the e-cigar -- many times while I've got a strong snus in place.
At one time, years ago, I used a fake plastic cigarette that I always had in my mouth. I was so nervous in chewing it that I have broken a front tooth (the same tooth after a crown) three times. Total over $2,000 in dentist's bills. BTW, I still chew one sometimes ... but very carefully around that front tooth.
I've had hits from the pen style that indeed sent my head spinning. But I was never using it alone, since I just have no desire to quit snus or Stonewall. They're excellent and I can use either any time, any place, unlike e-smoking. For each of our individual needs, it's a matter of finding out what works for us. I'm really close now. When I don't even want a cigarette, I will have found my personal solution. That day is not yet here.
One thing I have done is test each nicotine delivery method for a day by itself. Some worked fine -- snus and the Meltrix pen style e-cig, for instance. But I came to understand that I enjoyed rotating these methods. I use whatever I want at the moment. And the e-smoking devices are wonderful placebos for any smoker. Nothing wrong with that. I actually use my pathetic e-cigar with its wispy vapors as often as the excellent pen style with its clouds of vapors. I just enjoy handling the e-cigar -- many times while I've got a strong snus in place.
At one time, years ago, I used a fake plastic cigarette that I always had in my mouth. I was so nervous in chewing it that I have broken a front tooth (the same tooth after a crown) three times. Total over $2,000 in dentist's bills. BTW, I still chew one sometimes ... but very carefully around that front tooth.
I've had hits from the pen style that indeed sent my head spinning. But I was never using it alone, since I just have no desire to quit snus or Stonewall. They're excellent and I can use either any time, any place, unlike e-smoking. For each of our individual needs, it's a matter of finding out what works for us. I'm really close now. When I don't even want a cigarette, I will have found my personal solution. That day is not yet here.
when the need to keep marking the prison cell wall on a daily basis disappears bob.. u will have "escaped" the cigarette inhaling thing.. marking the wall is symbolic its beneficial in some ways but negative in others.. it keeps the inhaling fear in your mind.. u need to forget it.. its a battle u have already won..
as for the nicotine addiction.. well hmm.. errr.. i dont think u will succeed.. i would drop the pipe next.. i might be a little odd but i still see that as real smoking..
now to really depress u... my older brother died of lukemia at just under sixty.. i used to view him as a none smoker but he did like a puff on his pipe..
some more of my wry humour.. he he he
trog
as for the nicotine addiction.. well hmm.. errr.. i dont think u will succeed.. i would drop the pipe next.. i might be a little odd but i still see that as real smoking..
now to really depress u... my older brother died of lukemia at just under sixty.. i used to view him as a none smoker but he did like a puff on his pipe..
some more of my wry humour.. he he he
trog
Unrelated, in my book. A study long ago established that pipe smokers -- no doubt because their laid-back personalities -- outlive even non-smokers. As is proper with pipe smoking, I don't inhale. I tried life without pipes, BTW. Then had to have one first thing in the morning. Then late at night. Then after meals.
I think the pipe will be the last thing I give up .. if I give up anything at all. I'm enjoying life at the moment, and enjoying e-smoking.
I think the pipe will be the last thing I give up .. if I give up anything at all. I'm enjoying life at the moment, and enjoying e-smoking.
do u think the laid back pipes smoker image is correct.. pipe smokers are bit of a rarity in the UK at the moment.. puffing clouds of it into the atmosphere and killer secondhand smoke dont kinda go together.. he he
i aint sure bout the US but the "killer" secondhand smoke concept really has bitten over here..
odd really cos anybody over the age of fify should be dead my now.. their younger years were spend surrounded by the stuff..
still all the live long and health conscious dudes should enjoy their physically healthy Alzheimer's extra twenty years or so..
the next cry from the masses will be for voluntary (at first) euthanasia to get rid of the coffin dodging buggers cos we cant afford to keep em... he he he
trog
i aint sure bout the US but the "killer" secondhand smoke concept really has bitten over here..
odd really cos anybody over the age of fify should be dead my now.. their younger years were spend surrounded by the stuff..
still all the live long and health conscious dudes should enjoy their physically healthy Alzheimer's extra twenty years or so..
the next cry from the masses will be for voluntary (at first) euthanasia to get rid of the coffin dodging buggers cos we cant afford to keep em... he he he
trog
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