Question on sub ohm

[coolerat]

I wonder how many people would be vaping if there was no visible "cloud" produced... all one would get is flavor TH etc but no "mist" on exhale....

Normal day to day operations the cloud is the most important thing to me.

TH is not only not important I hate it. Any juice with TH goes down the drain.

But at the end of the day its the nic. Whatever it takes to get the nic in. In a lifetime of addiction, including some pretty bad ones, nicotine is the big one. Its controlled my life in one way or the other since I was a pre-teen.

So the current goal is to get my nic in the least harmful way possible.Low wattage vaping has zero appeal to me. I did it for quite awhile as thats all that was available. But I hated it then and will never do it again.

I'm thankful I don't need to understand what other people do. I do admitt that I wonder why people vape long term. But I have to remember the people who successful used vaping to quit smoking don't post on vaping forums. I guess they should but they don't. Its like long term AA members who should go to meetings more often but don't (I'm guilty). To me the vaping phase is like a alcoholic who does't drink but still uses some leafy stuff.

Vaping 0 nic stuff I haven't made up my mind about its impact on me yet. So far I consider vaping a nicotine delivery system and still an addict. ) nic seems pointless. Cross this bridge when I get to it.

 

[Dopefish]

ummm not true.... I used to smoke 3PAD and now vape 36nic at about 5 ml a day... if I vape more than 5 ml a day I feel "yucky"... and when I chain vape I get hiccups, the first sign of getting nicsic... so if one becomes nicsic, one isnt tolerant to it.

Alright I hate to be this guy, but you are wrong. You almost certainly have a tolerance to nicotine and the only reason you are still getting nicsic is because you are vaping around 180mg of nicotine a day. This is pharmacology 101 here, if you continuously pump an alkaloid into your body, your body will start to respond to it differently over time. Take for instance the first vape of the day, I'm sure that if you paid attention you would see that that first vape of the day affects you more than when you're vaping in the evening assuming you've been vaping all day, this is a tolerance effect.

 

[Moonlitwish]

My recommendation for people wondering if they would like something and thinking about getting new gear is to find something that will do what you're used to and provide the option for something new. The subtank doesn't have to run subohm, but it can. It doesn't have to run dual coils, but it can. And there are others out there that have those options too. Read the forums here and watch some reviews and get informed about the quirks of each device you're looking at and decide which one better fits your vape style and let's you explore the vast world of vaping.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

 

[HazyShades]

I vape 24 and 36 mg/ml. I was at 18mg/a while ago, but it didn't take...

Guess I got your nic intake confused with some toodler...I do 24 and all VG (except the pg in flavors)
but the vape density is still not as thick as any tobacco I've ever inhaled.
I'm not talking nicotine rush or throat hit..
Anyway, that's my opinion on the reason so many people seem to need bigger clouds.
Okay, you don't. But most people don't need 27 girlfriends either.
Usually one or two is "thick" enough...

 

[stevegmu]

Guess I got your nic intake confused with some tooddler...I do 24 and all VG (except the pg in flavors)
but the vape density is still not as thick as any tobacco I've ever inhaled.
I'm not talking nicotine rush or throat hit..
Anyway, that's my opinion on the reason so many people seem to need bigger clouds.
Okay, you don't. But most people don't need 27 girlfriends either.
Usually one or two is "thick" enough...

I like relaxed, long draws. I feel the flavor rush in my mouth and throat hit, due to the high nic and PG. The vapor is meaningless to me.
Most guys really do need 27 girlfriends; it just isn't so easy to achieve and maintain. I'm always in training...

 

[AmandaD]

I get far more flavor in my subohm tanks than in a nautilus. I make juice for a friend who has a nautilus, and I always have to increase the flavor percentage to get the same flavor I get in any of my subohm tanks!

 

[HazyShades]

I like relaxed, long draws. I feel the flavor rush in my mouth and throat hit, due to the high nic and PG. The vapor is meaningless to me.
Most guys really do need 27 girlfriends; it just isn't so easy to achieve and maintain. I'm always in training...

I like relaxed long draws also but the vapor density is part of the ceremony for me.
The nose exhale, the mouth exhale re-inhaled through the nose, the "smoke" rings,
blowing clouds of vape at my old lady...all part of the nic fix...foreplay/post play.

yea, you're always in training...but you're too lazy to DIY. LOL. Priorities.
I'm too old to be "athletic" but I keep my brain in training and nicotine use together
with all it's little ceremonial bru-ha-ha helps me do that.

 

[stevegmu]

I like relaxed long draws also but the vapor density is part of the ceremony.
The nose exhale, the mouth exhale re-inhaled through the nose, the "smoke" rings,
blowing clouds of vape at my old lady...all part of the nic fix...foreplay/post play.

yea, you're always in training...but you're too lazy to DIY. LOL. Priorities.
I'm too old to be "athletic" but I keep my brain in training and nicotine use together
with all it's little ceremonial bru-ha-ha helps me do that.

I like to play guess my vape and taste my juice with ladies, but when I'm vaping just to vape, vapor isn't a big part of the equation.

I don't have the patience to DIY...

 

[Darkstarncw]

I faltered pretty quickly with sub-20 watt vaping. I truthfully haven't pinned down one single reason why I prefer high wattage vaping, but the heat seems to have the biggest impact. It very well could be me being a crazy person, but I know it works so I stick with it.