Question on VV's??

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hubseven

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I have a Grand and 2.0 atties suit me fine. The following assumes a 2.0 atty.
3.7 volts= 6.8 watts, 4.2 volts= 8.8 watts, 5.0 volts= 12.5 watts and 6.0 volts= 18 watts. What does the extra watts actually do for the vape? With a VV do you set the volts and the pv selects the watts for the atty you choose? Or do you set the Watts and the pv varies the volts for the atty you choose? I have read that vapers use 6.0 volts with HV 3.5 atties and that would give 10 Watts, one could get 9 watts with 3.7 volts and a 1.5 atty. Does that one watt make a big difference? At what volts must one step up in atty resistance? Thanks for any light you can shed on this. I love my Reo the way it is but a VV Reo is enticing and just trying to see what it is about.
 

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The best advice I can give is the extra voltage gives thicker chewier vapor even if the watts are =

The watts = watts thing sounds great on paper but in the real world every variable comes into play so its hard to make a "match"

The greatest thing about Variable Voltage is you can just forget all that garble you just typed out.

Pick your favorite juice, throw in the batteries. Add any atty or carto you have on hand :)
Set the mod to low voltage..... take a hit and dial it up until you think its the most awesome vape you've ever had :)

Blissfully cary on and enjoy the rest of your day.

See what I am saying. The only reason you need to know all about Ω/volts/watts is when you don't have a VV mod.

This is going to be so feakin sweet !!!!!!!
 

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Thanks. So what do you enter into your VV, the volts you want to vape at and the pv adjusts the watts to the atty you put on??





The best advice I can give is the extra voltage gives thicker chewier vapor even if the watts are =

The watts = watts thing sounds great on paper but in the real world every variable comes into play so its hard to make a "match"

The greatest thing about Variable Voltage is you can just forget all that garble you just typed out.

Pick your favorite juice, throw in the batteries. Add any atty or carto you have on hand :)
Set the mod to low voltage..... take a hit and dial it up until you think its the most awesome vape you've ever had :)

Blissfully cary on and enjoy the rest of your day.

See what I am saying. The only reason you need to know all about Ω/volts/watts is when you don't have a VV mod.

This is going to be so feakin sweet !!!!!!!
 

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With variable voltage, you pick the voltage, and whatever atty/carto you put on (as long as you don't exceed the VV's ability, for instance 15W total power), the VV device will output that voltage.

I use a VV with 3.5 - 5.5V range (the same basic circuit the new Reos will have, I believe). With a 3 ohm carto, if I set it at midpoint, 4.5V, I'll get 4.5 x 4.5/3 = 6.8W. If I bring the voltage up a bit, 5V, I get 5x5/3 = 8.3W, a noticeably warmer vape.

If I switch to a lower resistance carto, 2.5 ohms, at 4.5V I get 4.5x4.5/2.5 = 8.1W, while at 5V I get 10W.

With VV you control the V, and the VV device outputs whatever current is needed for that particular resistance atty/carto. If you try to overdrive it, demand too much current/total power (too small a resistance for that voltage), protection circuitry cuts in, so you won't harm the PV.

(If you like the current Reos, the new VV Reos should knock your socks off -- it's really nice to be able to easily tweak the voltage, vary the vape without swapping atties/cartos.)
 

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Thanks. So what do you enter into your VV, the volts you want to vape at and the pv adjusts the watts to the atty you put on??

You just enter the voltage. With the new VV REO there will be no readout or markings in numbers I assume.
(Just like the buzz pro)

So you are just turning a dial up or down for the feel. But that is adjusting the voltage output of the device.
The wattage is not adjusted really its just the a byproduct of the voltage you choose with the dial and the Ω of the atty or carto you have installed. Although from what I understand there are safety features that will kick in if you try to do something crazy :)

Basically the same thing that happens with a current REO if you choose either the 3.7, 5, or 6 volt batteries except you can now choose in smaller increments (without changing batteries) just by turning a dial up or down.
 
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I really like Big Hitter's advice. He's right on ... there are just too many variables.

With all other things being equal, juices vape differently including different PG/VG ratios and atty's vape differently, have an ohm tolerance and are designed differently by different manufacturers. Throw in a full moon, temperature, altitude and taste, and it's like calculating all the variables it takes to get to the planet Vulcan. Some say 8.0 to 9.5 watts is perfect, but others have a different range. Trying to figure it all out would put me in the funny farm and I really don't want to go there without my Reos.

It's a fact that everyone hears better in the morning than in the evening and I would bet our other senses are the same, including taste. As the day wears on, so do our bodies and what tastes good this moment, may taste different in a little while. I don't know if the Reo VV will have a digital voltage display, but does it really matter? I doubt if anyone will keep a log of every condition for every 25, 50 or 100 hits they take, when just moving a dial from hit to hit will suffice.

A dial on a VV mod is like driving a car, we know without looking how much to turn the steering wheel to accomplish where we want to go. It becomes second nature and we don't need or want to know how many degrees the steering wheel actually turned.
 

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The best advice I can give is the extra voltage gives thicker chewier vapor even if the watts are =

The watts = watts thing sounds great on paper but in the real world every variable comes into play so its hard to make a "match"

The greatest thing about Variable Voltage is you can just forget all that garble you just typed out.

Pick your favorite juice, throw in the batteries. Add any atty or carto you have on hand :)
Set the mod to low voltage..... take a hit and dial it up until you think its the most awesome vape you've ever had :)

Blissfully cary on and enjoy the rest of your day.

See what I am saying. The only reason you need to know all about Ω/volts/watts is when you don't have a VV mod.

This is going to be so feakin sweet !!!!!!!


Wish I could "like" this reply a 100 times. Great explanation:)
 

RIMP

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I really like Big Hitter's advice. He's right on ... there are just too many variables.

With all other things being equal, juices vape differently including different PG/VG ratios and atty's vape differently, have an ohm tolerance and are designed differently by different manufacturers. Throw in a full moon, temperature, altitude and taste, and it's like calculating all the variables it takes to get to the planet Vulcan. Some say 8.0 to 9.5 watts is perfect, but others have a different range. Trying to figure it all out would put me in the funny farm and I really don't want to go there without my Reos.

It's a fact that everyone hears better in the morning than in the evening and I would bet our other senses are the same, including taste. As the day wears on, so do our bodies and what tastes good this moment, may taste different in a little while. I don't know if the Reo VV will have a digital voltage display, but does it really matter? I doubt if anyone will keep a log of every condition for every 25, 50 or 100 hits they take, when just moving a dial from hit to hit will suffice.

A dial on a VV mod is like driving a car, we know without looking how much to turn the steering wheel to accomplish where we want to go. It becomes second nature and we don't need or want to know how many degrees the steering wheel actually turned.

Excellent analogy:) I love VV:)
 
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