Question Regarding Variable Voltage and Kanger Coils

[KangerFakes]

OK, so, now that I know the Kanger coils may be legit, I have another issue.

I recently switched to VV, with a battery that reaches up to 6V. With my Aerotank Mini and 2-ohm coils, I can't really raise the volts even as high as 5 without burning the liquid. I don't see anything above 2-ohm coils from Kanger. How do people get mods that go up to 11V? Do I have to switch the brand of my clearomizer or something??

 

[txjim]

I also use a Kanger and I usually set my voltage at 3.7 if my coils are 2.0 ohms. I use a 50/50 mix in my juice. It takes just a bit longer for the coils to heat up (not really enough to notice), but it keeps me from getting that burnt taste. You might just have to change things up a bit and do some experimenting to get what you want. That's what I did. What exactly are you trying to get, by going with higher volts? More flavor, more clouds? A bit more information might help someone figure out the problem.

 

[AlfredSA]

Are you running single coil or dual coils? From what I've seen, either setup is a game changer, it would be nice to know which kanger coils you are using.

Regards

 

[Nat79]

I have never herd of a device that puts 11 volts to the atty (many things I've never seen, but exist), I think you may be thinking wattage (the MVP maxes at 11 watts I think). Their are also mods that use high voltage lipo packs and regulate down to a useable voltage. Anyway generally high power devices will destroy your juice in a clero/glassomizer. The devices are designed to work in various situations ie 6 volts should rock on a 3 ohm carto but boil a 1.8 ohm clero.

 

[txjim]

Are you running single coil or dual coils? From what I've seen, either setup is a game changer, it would be nice to know which kanger coils you are using.

Regards

I'm using a single coil. I bought different ohm Kanger coils on Ebay and went through several boxes before deciding to rebuild them myself. I kept all of the old coils. I bought some 32ga and 30ga Kanthal, some 2mm and 3mm silica wick and watched a lot of YouTube videos. The rebuildables are the way to go if you want to save money and do a little experimenting.

 

[WharfRat1976]

OK, so, now that I know the Kanger coils may be legit, I have another issue.

I recently switched to VV, with a battery that reaches up to 6V. With my Aerotank Mini and 2-ohm coils, I can't really raise the volts even as high as 5 without burning the liquid. I don't see anything above 2-ohm coils from Kanger. How do people get mods that go up to 11V? Do I have to switch the brand of my clearomizer or something??

On a 2 ohm coil you want to use 4.5volts to 8volts MAXIMUM. A good voltage is somewhere in the middle of those two numbers. That is the SAFE range for your coil. The HIGHER the resistance the LESS power you have to use. The LOWER the resistance the MORE power you can use. It is opposite of what you would think. An 11v charge would implode your 2 ohm coil...

Here is a link to a tutorial and chart showing the relationships between Volts, resistance(ohms) and Wattage. I think it also explains Ohms Law which is the mathematical equation that determines the chart. Simply put, Volts squared divided by resistance = Watts. This chart does not show sub-ohm ratios: Tutorial: Variable Voltage and Vaping Power Chart | Mist Hub

In general, juices taste better under lower power---most juices. The more power you apply the hotter the vape becomes and the faster your juice disappears. Start slowly and go from there.

Here is a link to a calculator to determine the same thing: http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/watt-volt-amp-calculator.htm

Good Luck!

 

[Susaz]

I've encountered several problems with Kanger heads in the past year that has wooed me away from them.

1. They need LOTS of power to produce decent vapor: Maybe it's my way of vaping, but I've had 2.1 heads that produced just a little bit of vapor. Maybe they're made with thicker Kanthal that needs too much to heat?
2. Too much packing Just like what happened with evod and T3 wicks, they have too much. Sometimes removing just a pair of hairs with a pair of tweezers will solve the problem
3. Sealed heads: These vape bad unless you have a juice control system and even then it's not waranteed that you have enough sucking power for the head to take in enough liquid.

As a rule of thumb the head should be vaped at 2 volts more than the nominal head value: For instance, for a 1.8 ohm head, 3.8V, for a 2 ohm 4V and for a 2.5 4.5V. BEWARE if you have to raise your voltage too much over that. PWM devices also are an issue as they pulse voltage to get to the set voltage, those spikes can get you dry hits and burnt taste. That's why the Innokin MVP is so popular, flat signal.

 

[FinchX]

OK, so, now that I know the Kanger coils may be legit, I have another issue.

I recently switched to VV, with a battery that reaches up to 6V. With my Aerotank Mini and 2-ohm coils, I can't really raise the volts even as high as 5 without burning the liquid. I don't see anything above 2-ohm coils from Kanger. How do people get mods that go up to 11V? Do I have to switch the brand of my clearomizer or something??

First off, I'm with Nat79... I think you're mistaking watts for volts. I could be wrong as well, but I too have never heard of an 11 volt device. Now 11 watts, that's easy to reach with any standard mod, which usually range from 3v-6v.. and up to 15watts.

I use the stock replacement coils from Kanger. I've got gigantic hands with matching sausage fingers, AND they shake uncontrollably due to my anti-psychotics that I have to take for some personal issues. So rebuilding these small coils for the Kangers or my Nautilus is unfortunately not an option for me.

However, I buy my Kanger coils from mvs (myvaporstore.com I believe)... I have an Aerotank myself, except it's the Mega. And MVS, I know for a fact, carries some kind of upgraded Kanger coils. Another ECF member, NathanielFT told me before buying the tank to make sure I didn't buy the older coils for it. So I sent him the link and he assured me they were the newer ones. Then once I had them in my actual cart, I believe they either had (new) or (v2) out beside them in the product description. But like I said, that didn't appear until looking at my cart during checkout. I bring this up because I don't get dry hits or burnt tastes at all with my Aerotank, and that's using a pure VG liquid in the tank as well.

As far as your settings on your vv mod go, several in this thread have already nailed it. I use the 2ohm coils from Kanger (a couple have registered at like 2.1ohm but that's expected).., anyway... with the 2ohm stock Kanger heads, I typically have my mod set to 4.0v... and no issues with burning.

(which is more than I can say about my Nautilus... I'm going to give it another chance with their new BVC coils they recently released, but unless those things are miracle workers, I'll be tossing my Nautilus in the "useless s**t" bin... lol)

 

[LotsaBS]

I've been using the Aerotank Mega with either the 1.5 or 2.0 dual coils (new enclosed coil version) for the last few of months with great success. My juice is 70% PG/30% VG and I usually run the 1.5's at around 3.7 volts and the 2.0's at around 4.3-4.5 volts on my Provari. My coils rarely flood, run dry or burn the juice and last for at least 2-3 weeks, sometimes longer. I vape between 2.5 and 5 ml juice per day. I've been vaping for over 2 years and my experience has been to run at the lowest voltage/wattage that will still give you a satisfying vape.

 

[LotsaBS]

Be aware about calculating proper voltage or wattage for DUAL coils. Kanger Dual Coils are manufactured like this: the 2.0 ohm version is actually (2) 4 ohm coils wired in parallel, while the 1.5 ohm version is actually (2) 3 ohm coils wired in parallel.

 

[Susaz]

I've been using the Aerotank Mega with either the 1.5 or 2.0 dual coils (new enclosed coil version) for the last few of months with great success. My juice is 70% PG/30% VG and I usually run the 1.5's at around 3.7 volts and the 2.0's at around 4.3-4.5 volts on my Provari. My coils rarely flood, run dry or burn the juice and last for at least 2-3 weeks, sometimes longer. I vape between 2.5 and 5 ml juice per day. I've been vaping for over 2 years and my experience has been to run at the lowest voltage/wattage that will still give you a satisfying vape.

Yes. WASH THOSE HEADS REGULARLY! I've had heads that lasted me six months with a regular, twice a week wash. Plus, I keep three sets of heads for each clearos, that stay in alcohol until needed.

 

[Flavored]

I was never able to go much above 7 Watts on a stock Kanger coil. 4 volts on a 2 ohm coil is 8 Watts. They are much better rebuilt.

Those of you in the US who have, perhaps, never tried a Kanger with a micro-coil installed can get a few just by joining CASAA (it's free, too). You'll never look back.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...pif-new-ecf-casaa-members-5.html#post13673901

 

[WharfRat1976]

and make sure your coils are PRIMED WELL before putting any power on them. If you power the coil before it is THOROUGHLY PRIMED it will never perform to standard. Just a thought. When I started I was always moving to fast. Slow down Kimosabees It helped me to be very thoughtful in my process. Think through every step you take. All of my problems are self imposed except when dealing with Nautilus coils

 

[FinchX]

Yes. WASH THOSE HEADS REGULARLY! I've had heads that lasted me six months with a regular, twice a week wash. Plus, I keep three sets of heads for each clearos, that stay in alcohol until needed.

I'm fairly new to using these myself actually compared to others. Can you give me a bit of a quick walk through , or how to, when it comes to properly washing the stock heads??

Wharfrat1976, what is YOUR actual process for priming them? I've simply been putting in a new head, putting the tank back together, then letting it sit a couple minutes, while also taking a few pulls on it with the airflow cut way down while NOT pushing the fire button and mine have worked fine. I'm just wondering what your steps are...

 

[pokemom]

To prime a head, just dab a couple of drops of your ejuice on the each side of the wick. Put your tank back together, and take a couple of puffs on the ecig without using the firing button. This will pull the liquid through the wicks.


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[GPC2012]

I've got a VTR and if I put my Hypertank (uses kanger coils) on it I can't go above 8 watts or 4 volts without it tasting burnt. If I put an Itaste I30s on it or Itaste XI I can vape up to 11 to 12 watts depending on the juice. Check out Desert vapes for coils of different resistance.
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[Susaz]

I'm fairly new to using these myself actually compared to others. Can you give me a bit of a quick walk through , or how to, when it comes to properly washing the stock heads??

Wharfrat1976, what is YOUR actual process for priming them? I've simply been putting in a new head, putting the tank back together, then letting it sit a couple minutes, while also taking a few pulls on it with the airflow cut way down while NOT pushing the fire button and mine have worked fine. I'm just wondering what your steps are...

It's real easy: Put the opening of the coil up into hot tap water. I use a pair of thongs not to get burned, and let water run for 5 minutes or so. NO DRY BURING, these have lining inside. If you wish, put them in vodka for a couple of days to remove gunk from coils. Voila! do it every 3 to 5 tanks and your heads will last a lot longer.

 

[67Tele]

On a 2 ohm coil you want to use 4.5volts to 8volts MAXIMUM. A good voltage is somewhere in the middle of those two numbers. That is the SAFE range for your coil. The HIGHER the resistance the LESS power you have to use. The LOWER the resistance the MORE power you can use. It is opposite of what you would think. An 11v charge would implode your 2 ohm coil...

Here is a link to a tutorial and chart showing the relationships between Volts, resistance(ohms) and Wattage. I think it also explains Ohms Law which is the mathematical equation that determines the chart. Simply put, Volts squared divided by resistance = Watts. This chart does not show sub-ohm ratios: Tutorial: Variable Voltage and Vaping Power Chart | Mist Hub

In general, juices taste better under lower power---most juices. The more power you apply the hotter the vape becomes and the faster your juice disappears. Start slowly and go from there.

Here is a link to a calculator to determine the same thing: Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator

Good Luck!

I'm learning from this thread so, as a comparison...
I have two Zmax V5 both with the Kanger Aerotank with Airflow with dual coils. Each one has a Kanger 2.0 Ohm in it. In one with a tobacco flavor I have it at 4.3 Volts. In the other I have a straight menthol set at 4.0 Volts. Both juices are 70% PG/30%VG.

I was running the Menthol today at 4.3 Volts and it was disappearing fast (I've since lowered it after reading this thread.) No burn taste but it was going fast.