Quick question about 510 atties

[mux]

Ok, I'm not brand new to vaping or dripping, but have a question concerning both. This situation is using a TastyVapor eGo kit. It works flawlessly except for the problem I am experiencing, which is probably user error on my part and not anything to do with the PV itself.

I usually drip 2-3 drops on my 510 atty. I get about 2, maybe 3 good drags (7-8 second consecutive pull after 1 or 2 primer puffs). After these, I start to get a really harsh hit in the back of my throat if I try to do a drag longer than 4-5 seconds. It tastes fine, but it wreaks havoc on my throat. This doesn't seem to be juice specific either, it has happened with every type of juice I have used. It doesn't taste bad, it is just extremely harsh. I usually wait about 30-60 seconds in between drags. Is this normal?

If not, this leads me to believe it might be an atomizer problem. It isn't flooded or clogged. Blowing the atty out is producing normal behavior (No flooded sounds and maybe half a drop comes out on the tissue?). Do you think this might just be specific to the 510 atties I am using (TastyVapor 510 atties I got with my eGo kit, not sure how many ohms they are)?

I have tried cleaning these atties using the dry burn method as well as just a normal soak and rinse using Crest Pro Health. Any ideas?

 

[VPDownunder]

Try inhaling into your mouth, remove the pv then draw the vapor into your lungs.

 

[ckc]

Have you checked that your carts are still intact? They have been known to melt in a 510. I cut mine down a bit now to make sure it doesnt happen (i drip).

 

[mux]

Have you checked that your carts are still intact? They have been known to melt in a 510. I cut mine down a bit now to make sure it doesnt happen (i drip).

You know, that thought crossed my mind when I was typing everything. I remember at one point when I switched the cart, it seemed like I was vaping on a brand new PV. However, after examining the carts, they look normal.

So I'm not really sure what the problem is. I was thinking that maybe the atty was running too hot and burning the juice or something. How many drags do you normally get off 2-3 drips on average?

 

[ckc]

Probably the same as you, 2-3 decent hits then several smaller ones resting in-between. If its not your carts and your dripping enough i'm not sure what else it could be. I must admit to being very light on my flavouring(i mix my own) so i don't 'burn' it and get any nasty taste.

 

[MsSki]

I know with my Tornado with the LR atties the flavor is more intense and I had to get use to that but the problem was solved when i cut down the nic to 24 and added more VG to the ratio

 

[mux]

Probably the same as you, 2-3 decent hits then several smaller ones resting in-between. If its not your carts and your dripping enough i'm not sure what else it could be. I must admit to being very light on my flavouring(i mix my own) so i don't 'burn' it and get any nasty taste.

Well at least I'm averaging in the normal ballpark figure then. Just wish those smaller ones weren't so harsh on my throat.

Might pop out a new cart, trim it, and give it a go. I was planning on ordering some drip tips from Volcano on Monday. Waiting for some other stuff to come in stock on Monday so I can get one big package sent to me.

I know with my Tornado with the LR atties the flavor is more intense and I had to get use to that but the problem was solved when i cut down the nic to 24 and added more VG to the ratio

I'm vaping 12mg stuff which is why I know something is wrong. I'm also used to a strong juice like Atomic Cinnacide from Tasty Vapor. The harshness I am getting is hard to explain, it's definitely not coming from the juice most likely.

 

[ckc]

Haven't tried a drip tip yet but i'll be getting one from what i've read around here as i drip everywhere. They sound ideal !

Mux,how long have you been on the same attie? it could be a build up thats burning on there.

 

[mux]

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Mux,how long have you been on the same attie? it could be a build up thats burning on there.

I have been using these two atties for 10 days now. Tried cleaning them at first using Crest Pro Health then soaking in near boiling water (I like to clean brand new atties so I don't get that nasty "new primer" taste). Then tried doing the burn dry method on one of them about 3 days later to see that would help. Nothing. Wanted to try drip tips just to make sure it wasn't the plastic burning. Plus they would make my life easier in the long run anyways.

 

[Shaka]

Hey Mux.

I've always been recommending genuine Joye atties, but bought four of TV's atties to try because of their low price (less than half).

First off, the build quality is noticeably inferior. One had a sharp burr in the barrel that I had to ream out or it would have ruined the O-ring on my drip tip (even scored the plastic protective cart that was on it).

Performance wise they were ok, but noticeably lower than the Joyes I've been using for over a month and a half. BTW, I only blow them out (threads down) but don't clean them except for an occasional dry burn (Highping's method). They're still hitting like day #2. The TV atties I only use now for taste testing my juice mixes.

Try buying a higher quality atty. Passing on advice from an ecf veteran...get genuine Joyes.

 

[mux]

I was planning on buying some new atties when I order my driptip, but thanks for the tip!

Luckily, I didn't have any quality issues with my TV atties. The biggest problem is just this harshness, but I think the atties were just running dry possibly. If I re-drip around every 3 drags, it seems to be fine. I haven't flooded them yet either. I'm thinking I was either running the atties too hot or they just run hot in general. Any idea how many ohms these TV atties run at?

 

[7thCabal]

Just an educated guess, but most knock-offs are 2.9-3.2 ohm. Original510s run @2.2-2.5ohm, & the Joye510LR @ 1.5-1.7 ohm.

I suspect you were running them a little dry w/ 8sec drags. If not for being a knock-0ff, they would really taste horribly burnt.

Get the good stuff & open up a whole new experience when vaping. JMO, YMMV.
Aloha!

 

[DC2]

If you only get two or three good drags before you get dry atomizer drags, you don't have enough juice in there. Normally, on a full atomizer, two or three drops (maybe even four) is where you want to be. But if you just blew out or cleaned your atomizer, it should be able to take, and need to take, at least five or six drops.

There is a mesh that surrounds the atomizer coil. And that mesh can hold quite a few drops. Normally when you clean or blow out an atomizer, you need to get enough drops to fill up that mesh and more, because that liquid in the mesh surrounding the coil doesn't get to the coil quickly. So you need enough to fill up the mesh around the coil, plus the usual two or three or four more to get it working right.

 

[CJsKee]

I agree with DC2, Mux, it sounds like the atty is too dry. I'm a wussie girl and 6-7 sec draws seems huge to me . After you get your 2 or 3 good drags, put some more juice in there.

 

[FatDaddyBaker]

I'm rather new to vaping in general, but I use Volcano's Magma batteries and atties and drip with no problems. 2 - 3 drops gets me a good number of 5 - 8 second drags off of it. Maybe 8 - 10 hits. Now, I tend to use Vaporbomb 60%PG/40%VG 18MG Nic, so it's a bit thicker.

 

[RedAlert]

Valcano Magma attys are great. Not a genuine Joye, product, but work just as good. Their resistance is around 2.2-2.4 and they dont leak easily for us drippers.

 

[Shaka]

Valcano Magma attys are great. Not a genuine Joye, product, but work just as good. Their resistance is around 2.2-2.4 and they dont leak easily for us drippers.

Don't mean to hijack this thread but some questions on the Magma, which may also interest the op.

Hi Red. Read reviews and the thing that impresses me is although they're running at about the same resistance, they run cooler than the Joyes (the only thing I don't like about the Joyes). You find this to be true?

I always recommend Joyes because they are consistent and you know what you'll get vs. the bargain priced clones. These Magmas, while a little cheaper, aren't considered cheapies...and since Volcano is here in my home state, I'm thinking of trying them.

One issue I hope you can answer. A reviewer said the standard 510 carts don't fit well. I drip mainly but also use Boge cartos on the road. They fit the Joye atties perfectly, and am concerned if there will be any issues in these cartos fitting the Magmas. That could be the deal breaker for me. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

 

[RedAlert]

Don't mean to hijack this thread but some questions on the Magma, which may also interest the op.

Hi Red. Read reviews and the thing that impresses me is although they're running at about the same resistance, they run cooler than the Joyes (the only thing I don't like about the Joyes). You find this to be true?

I always recommend Joyes because they are consistent and you know what you'll get vs. the bargain priced clones. These Magmas, while a little cheaper, aren't considered cheapies...and since Volcano is here in my home state, I'm thinking of trying them.

One issue I hope you can answer. A reviewer said the standard 510 carts don't fit well. I drip mainly but also use Boge cartos on the road. They fit the Joye atties perfectly, and am concerned if there will be any issues in these cartos fitting the Magmas. That could be the deal breaker for me. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

Are you asking about carts as in cartridges or "cartos" as in cartomizers? Standard CARTridges will not fit the Magma attys, they fall right out. CARTOmizers will screw right onto the Magma batteries and work fine.

Just for a little info on Volcano as a supplier. They were the 2nd PV choice I made when I first started out. I had joined their private foprum and was impressed by their following and the fact that the owners were always on the forum to help out. Their customer service is top notch, and they really do bend over backwards to help people. While I have moved on to bigger things(mods), I still have all my Magma stuff in a box for backups to to let friends try vaping out. I still use their attys all the time, just because they dont die(going on 2.5 months on the first one), and they dont leak unless you really try and overdrip them.

 

[Shaka]

Are you asking about carts as in cartridges or "cartos" as in cartomizers? Standard CARTridges will not fit the Magma attys, they fall right out. CARTOmizers will screw right onto the Magma batteries and work fine.

Hey Red, thanks for the answer...yup, it was late and I suffered a severe brain fart. You don't use atties with cartos...duh!! Don't know what I was thinking. Think I'll give them a try...the O-ring on my drip tip should be able to compensate for the sloppy fit...If not I can just slip on a fatter O-ring.

Thanks Red!

 

[PsychoKat]

Try giving Geoff a call in the morning. He might be able to answer any questions or issues you might have.