Quick question for the advanced vapers

[kiwivap]

There are tons of sub forums all over the place. What is your point? I don't mean to sound like a fanboy but I am just telling it like it is. There are many mods that are great for great prices. I personally like the gunmetal lambo along with others that are out there. I was just helping out the OP. If you have the money and do not mind spending it, may as well get the best.

My point? If the OP is interested there is a Provari sub forum.

While I'm here... I don't consider the Provari to be the best there is. Its good for what it is, and for a vv mod its held its own. But it doesn't have VW, and VW is a lot more convenient for many vapers. It needs a better menu display. It could use either a recess or threading for Ego accessories.
Not saying its bad - obviously it isn't when a lot of people like it. But it could use some upgrading.

Some people prefer bottom feeding mods over Provaris. Some Provari users have said they prefer VW devices. It isn't all things to all. But there is a sub forum if folk are interested in it.

 

[tj99959]

Everyone gets is such a rush to suggest a new PV, and of course each person knows what the best and only PV the OP should choose.

Anyone bother to notice the the only thing the OP said they are using is a DCT with a 2 ohm carto? Maybe one of the clearos would give them the change of pace they are looking for, or perhaps they would like to try their hand at direct dripping. There are a lot of choices out there that do not require forking out the cash for a new PV.

 

[Skyway]

That is what is so great about this community. SO many things to choose from.
Pocket mods vendor Here is a guy that makes VV bottom feeder for probably one of the cheapest ways to go. It is hard for some one new to the scene to get into it with so much to choose from. For new people, I try to steer them straight to the eGo-twist nowadays. It is so simplistic but customizable, and little expense to boot. If they turn out to like it, then it opens them up to new things.
All I know is, I can no longer do non regulated vaping in what ever aspect.

 

[vsummer1]

If the OP is going to use carto tanks, which I like very much BTW, the Provari has the best build, warranty and service. Once you own one, you never need to replace it (unless you lose it) you can have it fixed IF anything ever goes wrong.

It is USA made, if that matters to you. I love mine. That said, since I also use RBA's I prefer the Vamo for them if the coil is made with a high enough ohm. Vamo won't fire under 1.2 where a ProVari will. There is no repair, only replacement if you even get a warranty on a Vamo though so once it dies you are going to have to buy another. My Vmax was an early version and came with a cracked and misaligned screen, so unless you can be SURE you are getting one of the newer versions I would stay away (that issue has been fixed in later versions but does attest to their overall lack of QC. That unit should not have left the factory).

For the money? I say get a ProVari. I have the standard size one with the extended cap and it is still smaller than the Vamo.

 

[kiwivap]

If the OP is going to use carto tanks, which I like very much BTW, the Provari has the best build, warranty and service. Once you own one, you never need to replace it (unless you lose it) you can have it fixed IF anything ever goes wrong.

It is USA made, if that matters to you. I love mine. That said, since I also use RBA's I prefer the Vamo for them if the coil is made with a high enough ohm. Vamo won't fire under 1.2 where a ProVari will. There is no repair, only replacement if you even get a warranty on a Vamo though so once it dies you are going to have to buy another. My Vmax was an early version and came with a cracked and misaligned screen, so unless you can be SURE you are getting one of the newer versions I would stay away (that issue has been fixed in later versions but does attest to their overall lack of QC. That unit should not have left the factory).

For the money? I say get a ProVari. I have the standard size one with the extended cap and it is still smaller than the Vamo.

Pays to buy a Vamo with a vendor warranty. I did.
You can get a Provari repaired, but there can be a cost. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...3329-feedback-provari-mini-4.html#post7974761

Not sure I'd say it has the best build anymore. The latest Sigelei Zmax seems to be up there on that.
For warranty it has the edge though.

 

[kiwivap]

Everyone gets is such a rush to suggest a new PV, and of course each person knows what the best and only PV the OP should choose.

Anyone bother to notice the the only thing the OP said they are using is a DCT with a 2 ohm carto? Maybe one of the clearos would give them the change of pace they are looking for, or perhaps they would like to try their hand at direct dripping. There are a lot of choices out there that do not require forking out the cash for a new PV.

Yes. OP did ask about kicking their Bolt, which with an extender cap for the Bolt isn't as fiddly as using a kick can be sometimes.
There's a post here about kicking the Bolt. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/277070-bolt-23.html#post7957807. OP has one already I believe.

 

[tj99959]

Yes. OP did ask about kicking their Bolt, which with an extender cap for the Bolt isn't as fiddly as using a kick can be sometimes.
There's a post here about kicking the Bolt. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/277070-bolt-23.html#post7957807. OP has one already I believe.

However kicking their Bolt is not the only way to change the vaping experience with their Bolt.

 

[kiwivap]

However kicking their Bolt is not the only way to change the vaping experience with their Bolt.

No, I understood what you were saying. So what would you suggest for the OP?

 

[tj99959]

No, I understood what you were saying. So what would you suggest for the OP?

Try a variety of different heads, they just might find several that they like.

Many of us get bored using the same thing day after day, there is nothing unusual about that. So far this morning I've been using a carto tank, last evening I was using a dripping atty. During the day yesterday I was using a Vivi Nova. Nice part is that they all will work on the same PV if you want. The OP might even find it's as simple as sticking a 1.7 ohm or a 2.5 ohm carto in their tank instead of the 2 ohm.

 

[gavsmith]

Try a variety of different heads, they just might find several that they like.

I have. I have an atty that I drip in while I am home. 2 clearos, hated them. Vivi nova, bad taste. And assortment of different ohm cartos. Just to me personally I feel as if I am not getting quite the satisfying vape I am looking for. As for suggestions I feel as if most people are saying a Provari w/ an RBA or the vamo, though every link to the vamo looks a little sketchy to me haha.

 

[sawlight]

I tried the Vivi's, not my thing at all!
Best bang for buck, try some other carto's for your tanks, 1.7-2.0 Ohm, nothing lower than 1.7 though! Ikenvape has some good ones that are getting great reviews and is supposed to be getting more in soon.
Next bet is to get another extension and a Kick, if you like the Bolt. This allows you to use the batteries you have, and limits the cost considerably.
Then you get into the Vamo and Lava tubes, I've got an LT clone, I'm not impressed at all! It's cheap JUNK! Sorry, but it is! I paid $40 for it, it got me into VV, I could have spent the money better, but I've got a back up at least. But it worked, and still does for now.
The Zmax and Vmax would be the next step for what you are after, but you are looking at a new battery set up on one of them, I can't remember now which runs on what, but one ONLY runs on 18350's (two of them) and the other can run on 18650's. Just keep that in mind.
Next is the EvIc that has yet to be reviewed, it looks cool, does all kinds of stuff, that you probably don't really need it to do, and I'm a little leary of the durability of it. In fact I was VERY interested in it until I found out it shuts down at 95f, that wont work in KS!
Then there is the others, Buzz Pro, Infinity etc, VV, but no screen, some issues with build quality on some units, but most have been happy.
I went ahead and bit the bullet and ordered a Provari mini. I looked at them all, got annoyed buy the fan boys, didn't like the price, but at the end of the day, I think (I hope) it's the right product for me. I like the durability, the flexibility (interchangeable battery sizes) and the fact it will maintain voltage throughout the battery life. Is it worth $200? I can't say yet, I'm waiting on it to show up, I hope so!
Sure, you could look at the EGO's, but I think you are way past that stage, and I'm to the point I don't want a "disposable" unit, which it really is.
I really can't advise you any more than that, just give you some options, of which I've missed plenty of, including the SB with a Kick! But it really comes down to you! $200 was a HUGE purchase to me, but I am extremely hard on things! This will get dropped, roll down the driveway, be around welders and who knows what else! That was MY justification for working my .... off and scraping the money together for it.

 

[gavsmith]

Awesome reply haha really enjoyed reading the whole thing! (no sarcasm) Can you kick a device with an 18650? I think that is what you were saying, to get another extender then use my 18650's. The only reason I ask is wherever I see it the website says to use it with an 18490/18500

 

[NancyR]

OP you only mentioned the one device, so I have to assume that is all you currently have. If that is the case then it is worth getting another pv just so you have a backup.

I won't knock the provari, it is the best VV that is currently out, however many find they prefer VW to VV, if that is something you are looking at then you might very well look into the Z-max from Sigelei. Just make sure it is one of the Sigelei ones.

If you do have at least one other PV already then personally I would suggest you look at what you are using on it. If you like cartos great, but there are others out not just the 2.0Ohm. Sometimes just going with a different ohm is enough to get past the bored stage.

 

[gavsmith]

I have that and just a small 450mah ego mini (that is currently MIA) so I dont have a back up and never really thought that through I just kept giving away my egos to help people quit. I have a few 1.7 ohm cartos I swap in from time to time too. I have heard that in the Sigelie version the screen tends to have a problem falling in or out, so that sort of draws me away from that PV. Any other suggestions on a good VV device?

 

[NancyR]

I have that and just a small 450mah ego mini (that is currently MIA) so I dont have a back up and never really thought that through I just kept giving away my egos to help people quit. I have a few 1.7 ohm cartos I swap in from time to time too. I have heard that in the Sigelie version the screen tends to have a problem falling in or out, so that sort of draws me away from that PV. Any other suggestions on a good VV device?

They worked on that issue, not saying there aren't ones out on the market that still have that problem but one of the reviewers pointed that out as well as problems with ego stuff fitting it and Sigelei made changes.

 

[gavsmith]

They worked on that issue, not saying there aren't ones out on the market that still have that problem but one of the reviewers pointed that out as well as problems with ego stuff fitting it and Sigelei made changes.

Oh well sweet! I actually really liked the device in Phil Busardo's review that was just the one thing that drew me away from it, but I am glad to hear it is fixed. I might go with that now.

 

[Yewstinc]

I have only have my provari for two weeks and I LOVE!!!! It.

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

Well, here are some sugguestions....releativly same functionality across all of them.
VV
ProVari-Expensive (Overly so), well built.
VMax-Medium dollar, descent PV.
LavaTube-Low dollar, descent PV.
Box Mod- Varies in price and quality, the gripper is popular and dependable.
VV-VW
ZMax (v.2 or higher only)- Good device, solid and well built.
eGo APV- Knock off of ZMax, currently my go to device, well built.
Box Mods-Varies in price, can't really recommend any at this time.
Advanced VV-VW
Joyetech eVic-New to the market, no reviews. Looks to be a good device.
Mechanical
Many to choose from, the bolt is a good choice though and heard it built tough.

Hope this helps, just don't get goated in to an expensive mod without doing the research. Price dosen't always mean quality when it comes to PV's. Also keep your options open is my best advice, personally I didn't purchase a ProVari and couldn't be happier that I didn't.

 

[zapped]

Well, here are some sugguestions....releativly same functionality across all of them.
VV
ProVari-Expensive (Overly so), well built.
VMax-Medium dollar, descent PV.
LavaTube-Low dollar, descent PV.
Box Mod- Varies in price and quality, the gripper is popular and dependable.
VV-VW
ZMax (v.2 or higher only)- Good device, solid and well built.
eGo APV- Knock off of ZMax, currently my go to device, well built.
Box Mods-Varies in price, can't really recommend any at this time.
Advanced VV-VW
Joyetech eVic-New to the market, no reviews. Looks to be a good device.
Mechanical
Many to choose from, the bolt is a good choice though and heard it built tough.

Hope this helps, just don't get goated in to an expensive mod without doing the research. Price dosen't always mean quality when it comes to PV's. Also keep your options open is my best advice, personally I didn't purchase a ProVari and couldn't be happier that I didn't.

Except in the Provaris case the exact opposite of what you said is true. You have to really hold one to understand but the quality shows through in every aspect. A significant portion of the tube mods mentioned by BlkWolf are cheaply made chinese clones ripped off from the Provari to begin with.

There are a lot of other nice mods out there but dont let someone elses cheapness influence your decision either.

 

[pherik]

Except in the Provaris case the exact opposite of what you said is true. You have to really hold one to understand but the quality shows through in every aspect. A significant portion of the tube mods mentioned by BlkWolf are cheaply made chinese clones ripped off from the Provari to begin with.

There are a lot of other nice mods out there but dont let someone elses cheapness influence your decision either.

Most people do not have the money to purchase a ProVari and many of the tube mods that are out have surpassed in quality and progress with the changing wants of the customer. I am starting to get sick and tired of seeing every Provari fanboy enter every threat and tell people they have to get a provari because everything else is crap. Owned a provari, sold it because I felt it was to small and felt cheap in my hand. Personal choice and I am not going to tell everyone to stay away from Provari or X brand. When it comes to these it is what features you want and where you plan to go. JoyEtech has been a great company and their products have always been solid. Provari is not and will never be the first tube mod, just the first that offered VV and a warranty.

Please for the love of god cultist fanboys, go back to your subdungeon and leave the rest of us alone.

Now onto others and that is, if you want a Provari buy one, if you want others read the reviews and go. I have owned a large number of the different mods, I swear it's a sickness, and have found some to be great and some that I put in a box hoping to never see again. My favorites have been the Ego APV and the Zmax because I like to vape at a certain wattage and don't have to sit there and ensure that I vape by a recommended number, just by the taste it produces. I will have the evic next week and will switch to that since it is a new ultra modern PV that still has the VW on it but has the ability to adjust the Wattage by .1 increments. Just personal opinion and if you see the Provari "rant" as a harsh one, please look at my last posts and threads. Every time someone says anything PV based they jump in, say get a Provari and bash others. The cult is really starting to bring my faith in this forum as a place where people can discuss down to the ground and make it sound like a "Provari vs every other brand" flame war in every thread.