quick vision question

[robl45]

You know, bad said several times not to fill these things right up to the seal. That's probably the problem right there. I never had any issues with this, but I only fill to the bottom of the cup - I think that's how you are supposed to do it.

yea, i been doing that, even like that, i'm still getting a ton of air pushed around and luck if it doesn't leak somewhere, i must be doing something wrong. plus when you do that, you are losing are wasting half the vision, the CE2's i can fill up to the seal.

but at any rate, even filling to the bottom of the cup, i'm usually getting juice being displaced to places where it shouldn't go, which i guess makes sense as you are stuffing a seal into there, the air has to displace somewhere.

 

[Briar]

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but at any rate, even filling to the bottom of the cup, i'm usually getting juice being displaced to places where it shouldn't go, which i guess makes sense as you are stuffing a seal into there, the air has to displace somewhere.

OK, I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me. The seals are not air tight because of the holes the wicks go through, at the very least. Just because the thing doesn't leak when you turn it upside-down doesn't mean it's air tight.

Can you take a pic of what is happening?

 

[badkolo]

rob, i had my laptop gfx card die on me, so i cant do videos, my last ones came out all blank so im setting up a new pc now, thats 3 pc in 2 weeks that died between daniel and I, thats life, Rob , I will send you the new 10ml bottle with long tip, that should help you

 

[robl45]

rob, i had my laptop gfx card die on me, so i cant do videos, my last ones came out all blank so im setting up a new pc now, thats 3 pc in 2 weeks that died between daniel and I, thats life, Rob , I will send you the new 10ml bottle with long tip, that should help you

i fill it with a syringe, will that make a difference? not that I would mind a bottle

as for someone saying its not air tight, on mine its definately air tight, even with slits on the side, once that seal goes on the top and covers the nipple, there is no place for air to go anymore, I'm assuming its supposed to go up through the center tube, although it doesn't seem to be happening quite right.

maybe 1.5ml is up to the bottom of the cup? i would assume these would last as long as the fluxomizers since they are both approximately the same ml. but this is lasting maybe 45 minutes, and i'm getting an hour or more out of the ce2's. don't know if that is normal or not.

at any rate, if anyone knows a step by step on how to fill these and put the top on without having to mop up juice, please do let me know. I tried sucking as I as I put it on as well, that doesn't seem to make much difference, putting in less juice seems to make the most difference. does anyone have a picture of how high they fill them? i tried looking on gotvapes website at the pictures of them, but they don't seem to be filled.

 

[badkolo]

if you have airbubbles in your syringe that will cause more air bubbles in the tank, this should help you out


the visions eat more juice for one simple reason, because theyre working that well. if a carto eats juice its becuase its doing its job properly

 

[Modrod.]

i fill it with a syringe, will that make a difference? not that I would mind a bottle

as for someone saying its not air tight, on mine its definately air tight, even with slits on the side, once that seal goes on the top and covers the nipple, there is no place for air to go anymore, I'm assuming its supposed to go up through the center tube, although it doesn't seem to be happening quite right.

maybe 1.5ml is up to the bottom of the cup? i would assume these would last as long as the fluxomizers since they are both approximately the same ml. but this is lasting maybe 45 minutes, and i'm getting an hour or more out of the ce2's. don't know if that is normal or not.

at any rate, if anyone knows a step by step on how to fill these and put the top on without having to mop up juice, please do let me know. I tried sucking as I as I put it on as well, that doesn't seem to make much difference, putting in less juice seems to make the most difference. does anyone have a picture of how high they fill them? i tried looking on gotvapes website at the pictures of them, but they don't seem to be filled.

You could save it as a flotation device in case of emergency.

 

[badkolo]

lets not poke fun at rob, not saying anyone is but obviously hes having some issues so lets help him out the best we can

 

[zoiDman]

lets not poke fun at rob, not saying anyone is but obviously hes having some issues so lets help him out the best we can

No Poking? You're no Fun Anymore

Rob - Post some pics.

 

[vapspaz]

Rob isn't crazy. I just got my reg's in the mail today and I can see what he's talking about. It is in fact creating pressure and pushing the juice. I've only filled it once so far and it didn't push it completely out. But then again, I only filled it to the bottom of the cup. I THINK what I'm seeing happen is the center cup nipple is so long that it seals off the tip well before it is pushed all the way down.

I don't want to hack my shiny new one up just yet but maybe cutting the length of that cup seal nipple down a little might help. idk

Rob - When you say you filled it to the bottom of the cup are you sure you are talking about the CERAMIC cup and not the bottom of the cup SEAL?


edit: BTW.... These little .......s ROCK! I'm liking it so far. Just wish it held a little more.

 

[Briar]

No poking. I'd be the last one to poke, considering how many "I'm lost" messages I wrote to Daniel... lol

Rob, in the Visions cup "hat" there are two big slots that lead right into the juice chamber - the filling slots. And there is a hole that goes vertically right through the mouthpiece... So it can't, or shouldn't, be airtight, yes?

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, but I am thinking that somewhere in here there is a reason for the problem.

Aha! What Vapspaz just said: maybe the tube is sealing the mouthpiece! Cut that sucker (literally) down, and see what happens?

 

[vapspaz]

I believe he's talking about the new Reg sized Visions with the standard seals.

 

[Briar]

I believe he's talking about the new Reg sized Visions with the standard seals.

Yeah, I got turned around in the threads. I edited the post. I think you may be right, it could be that the tube is sealing the chamber? If this puppy is air-tight, the juice would go to strange places...

 

[robl45]

i got whatever is the 1.5 ml one. I guess the other person described it better and that is likely what is happening, as soon as the tip gets over the top, bam, pressure.
originally I was filling to the cup seal as thats how I fill my ce2, or close to the cup seal anyway, these now I am filling to the bottom of the cup, and that is better, i'm still getting pressure, but not enough it seems to knock the juice out. but I'd like to be able to fill it a little more rather than have to refil so often.

 

[vapspaz]

Rob - try my mod idea by cutting that cup seal nipple down a little and see if that helps.

 

[robl45]

i would, but i only got one of them, so I'd rather not try it until someone else has. i gotta order more stuff soon, but its over a week to get here with standard shipping. why the heck it takes from monday to the following monday is beyond me. these gotvapes guys must be in the woods somewhere

 

[vapspaz]

LMAO! Ok.... I'll go cut my shiny new one down just for you bro.


Damn... Sometimes it sucks to be a nice guy.

 

[robl45]

LMAO! Ok.... I'll go cut my shiny new one down just for you bro.


Damn... Sometimes it sucks to be a nice guy.

well if you don't want to try it on yours, no biggee.

 

[vapspaz]

Ok Rob... Go cut that little ....... down. It worked. I just filled this puppy up to the bottom of the cup SEAL (over filled on purpose) and had a couple little air bubbles in there. (you ain't gonna get them all out) And then I tried to put the tip back on and it pushed juice out through the wicks and down the air tube and up into the tip. I then pulled the little ....... out and cut about half the nipple off so that there is about a 1/16" nipple left. I then put it back in all the way and seated it properly and then pushed the tip on. I saw only a tiny bit of movement in the juice/air bubbles and wallah! It seems to work just fine.


Edit: I now dub this mod the TNT mod. Tiny Nipple Tweak

Kinda catchy isn't it!

 

[Briar]

Vapspaz, you are the man! "TNT Mod"... (giggle) Good to know physics still works.

 

[robl45]

i did this, its definately better, i can now fill up more than before although I didn't have as much luck as vapspaz, i still get a bit of air going in there, certainly can't fill up to the seal, but at least can fill up higher than before, i did it twice now, first time i cut like half off,then a little more. i'm thinking its best to get it to where the nipple just pops up into the seal, that will minimize the air bubble as much as possible.