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ScottP

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No,

being a republic means giving power to the people.
The system of bipartisanship, is suppose to create equality by giving equal grounds to both parties of opposing factors.

What would help with equality would no NO PARTIES and politicians that actually were transparent and accountable to their constituents. That is what the founding fathers envisioned.
 

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- What are you unsure on? America is a bipartisanship..

- No, i have not read George Washington's take, nor do i care..

This post is absolutely preposterous. Bipartisanship is not a form of government. Stop posting this drivel, you are embarrassing yourself.



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I would say a good majority are low information everything including voters and then you have a large portion who are ultra low information people. That in itself is a major problem. Turn off your crappy TV unless you have The Blaze or go to Theblaze.com if you want real news. I get most of all my new and info from Drudgereport.com they compile news from all sources around the country and world right from the original source. Check it.
 

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What would really help, is to both do away with war chests, and preclude the phenomena of the career politician. Stop all forms of campaign contributions. Have laws is place that stop people that have held an office in DC from having another one for a gap as long as the term they just served. Open up the debates to include everyone running, not just from the duopoly.
 

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I would say a good majority are low information everything including voters and then you have a large portion who are ultra low information people. That in itself is a major problem. Turn off your crappy TV unless you have The Blaze or go to Theblaze.com if you want real news. I get most of all my new and info from Drudgereport.com they compile news from all sources around the country and world right from the original source. Check it.

I blame reality tv and a failed public education system for the utter dumbing down of the "average American". If we stay on our current trajectory the movie "Idiocracy" may well end up coming true.
 

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I believe you are clumsily applying the term 'bipartisanship' when you are trying to say 'two-party system'. But the way you use the term as a noun sometimes and an adjective at others makes deciphering your intent quite challenging.



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clumsily applying?

than instead of saying bi-partisan/bipartisanship, i will call it a multi-party system as that more closely relates to America
So explain how its not a form of government?
 

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"Bipartisanship is a political situation, usually in the context of a two-party system, in which opposing political parties find common ground through compromise, in theory. It has been debated among political theorists however that in practice, each party advances their own political agenda at the expense of the other party because of the conflicting ideologies."

Source: Wikipedia

See that? Bipartisanship is a situation within a two-party system. It's not a form of government.



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I'm 48 years old, and four years ago I would have laughed at that statement and figured you were a nut case.
After being involved in vaping issues for the last four years, I can't believe how ignorant I truly was for those other 44 years of my life.

Those of us that have the mixed blessing of the moment of clarity, are doomed to many days of facepalming.

You only have a handfull of years on me.

Hereticism is always used to demonize those that see things as they are, it's quite the effective tool to undermine their position. A shame our culture embraces the ad hominem attack so easily, and erroneously applies it as a justifiable reason to disregard what a person says. If a broken clock can be right twice a day, who is to say that even a "nutcase" can't be occasionally lucid/correct. ;)
 

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Ah, Now I never said its a form of government.. But again I can better explain how it is, than you can tell me why its not.

You just said it was two posts ago. Make up your mind.

Never mind...I can't help you. No matter what facts you are shown, you continue to flail away...hopelessly lost.

I tried to stop you, but I cannot protect you from yourself. Carry on with your dissertation on our Bipartisanship form of government.

It has been illuminating.



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You just said it was two posts ago. Make up your mind.

Never mind...I can't help you. No matter what facts you are shown, you continue to flail away...hopelessly lost.

I tried to stop you, but I cannot protect you from yourself. Carry on with your dissertation on our Bipartisanship form of government.

It has been illuminating.



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ok.. I already told you I never said bipartisanship is a form of government.

When I said it was I wanted you to tell me why it is not..

Do you know what our government is? Democracy? Republic?
Lets say we are a republic. How is a republican government ran? The people? Who protects the people from the government? The law?

Is america not on bipartisan consensus? Where bipartisanship formulates policies?
 

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Ah, Now I never said its a form of government..

Behold exhibits A, B, C, and D...especially D.

Exhibit A:
Like I said, America is a bipartisanship..

Exhibit B:
- What are you unsure on? America is a bipartisanship..

Exhibit C:
Are you confused? Were setup as a bipartisanship..

Exhibit D:
Ok than... bipartisanship is a form of government.

How is it not?


"Bipartisanship" and "Two Party system" only describe how many parties are primarily active WITHIN the system of government. A system of government is just as it sounds, it is the system by which a state, country, community, etc. is governed. The US is a Federal Republic. Which means it is a Federation (a union of partially self-governing states under a central or "federal" government) in which the power is held by the people but exercised by the elected officials.

EDIT: the only reason we are "bipartisan" is because the people pretty much stopped electing members of other parties. Our system of government would still be a Federal Republic even if we had 3, 4, or even 20 different parties.
 
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Behold exhibits A, B, C, and D...especially D.

Exhibit A:


Exhibit B:


Exhibit C:


Exhibit D:



"Bipartisanship" and "Two Party system" only describe how many parties are primarily active WITHIN the system of government. A system of government is just as it sounds, it is the system by which a state, country, community, etc. is governed. The US is a Federal Republic. Which means it is a Federation (a union of partially self-governing states under a central or "federal" government) in which the power is held by the people but exercised by the elected officials.

Now you are twisting my quotes, as those quotes were intended for other quotes...

What I have said was our government is based on a bi-partisan system.. Which is as close to me saying that "bipartisanship" is a form of government...
 
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