RBA not firing?

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FrostyDream

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I have a small genesis style atomizer, clone of another kind of genesis style atty. I never used it much and just recently took the coil off that came with it. I rebuilt it using silica and 30g kanthal, 5 wraps. No crosses/shorts as far as I can see and they're nice and tight on the +/- connections. The 510 connection looks clean enough. Any ideas? It's not firing at all on any battery.
 

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Check to make sure your center post is making contact with the 510 connection's center pin. If your genny uses a full length center pin that passes through the entire atty, try loosening the nuts on the top of the genny, gently pushing down until you see the pin sticking out from the 510 connection, then attach to your device and see if it fires.
 

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I did some pushing and it fires now... but it tastes awful. This has happened in like 5/7 of my rebuilds. Not really burnt, tastes more like sweaty socks being sauteed. why...

Sock taste, oh no! This means you have a hot spot somewhere. Usually with mesh builds shorting against the mesh is your main culprit, but even on silica builds I've gotten that taste on occasion when the wire wasn't tightly secured in the binding posts. Most likely your coil shorting against the wick, or your legs are pulled too tight.

Check around the forums here for info on getting rid of hot spots, there's quite a bit ;)
 

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Sock taste, oh no! This means you have a hot spot somewhere. Usually with mesh builds shorting against the mesh is your main culprit, but even on silica builds I've gotten that taste on occasion when the wire wasn't tightly secured in the binding posts. Most likely your coil shorting against the wick, or your legs are pulled too tight.

Check around the forums here for info on getting rid of hot spots, there's quite a bit ;)

UncleChuck's got this one covered :thumb:.

Just wanted to add, check out eHuman's blog on how to setup the AGA-T. It's a great tutorial that covers just about everything you could want to know about setting up Genisis attys.
 

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It's the kind that must be wrapped around the post which is annoying, Idk how much wire to wrap around and its difficult to trim it short enough. I'm using an ego battery and the coil is about 1.5 ohm so its hard to get it red enough to find hot spots. I'm going to get the legs as short as possible then try torching everything if nothing easier works.
 

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Without a way to get the coil glowing good it's going to be really hard, if not impossible to work the shorts out. If you can't get a device that can fire the current coil properly, you could go up to a thinner wire. This will heat quicker and hotter at the same resistance, allowing you to get a good enough coil glow going to work the shorts out. I'd really suggest 32g or possibly even higher if that doesn't work.

You could also switch your build style and try to get a perfect build right off the bat, instead of getting wire on there and then working out the issues later (the sometimes annoying glow, poke, and prod method) The easier way is to wrap your wire around a drillbit, nail, pin, anything of the right diameter.

Make sure the coils are all super tight, then you mount the coil onto your device with the nail/pin still inside the coil. Do your adjustments and screw the wire down, so that the coil is perfectly straight up and down. Make sure all the coils are still tight and uniform.

Then remove the pin, and slide your mesh wick inside the coil. As you know mesh loosens one way, and gets tighter another way. So when sliding the wick in, roll it as needed to adjust the tightness between the wick and coil. The wick should be tight enough that all the coils touch it, and provides just the slightest bit of resistance when trying to pull it out.

This method might not always get you a 100% perfect build straight away, but it's far more likely to compared with other methods.

Also when securing your bottom wire to the deck, make sure it connects to the post at the closest possible distance from the coil. You don't want a big loop of wire going halfway around the screw before it actually gets secured, it should make a pretty much straight line from the coil, to the post/screw.
 
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