RCR123A and CR123A

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I have many 3.0 RCR123A batteries (which measure 3.1 or 3.2v strangely enough). I think they recently re-labeled these as the green 3.2v version. I've tried them and they are the same, which is to say they're awesome.

Unless there is a new 3.6v version, I think it's a typo. In fact, on the Innovapor site is says "either a single Protected Li-Ion 3.7v battery OR a pair of LFP 3.2v batteries."
 

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I was trying to determine if my Pila charger would charge the batteries needed for the 6v ultramax.

The pila states it charges 3v CR123A's but I see the 6v ultramax needs two 3.6v RCR123A's.. Now two 3.6v RCR123A's would be 7.2v.. right? Is that a typo?

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If it says that, then it is most likely a typo but if it just says that it needs two rcr123as then they would be speaking of the 3.0 or 3.2 volt Lifepo4 not the Lion 3.6 or 3.7. All batts charge up above what they are marked. 3.7 will charge up to 4.2 and 3.0 usually charge to 3.2 depending on what charger you use. Anyways, 6 volt vaping is usually referring to using two 3.0 or 3.2 volt Lifepo4 batteries.
 

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I was trying to determine if my Pila charger would charge the batteries needed for the 6v ultramax.

The pila states it charges 3v CR123A's but I see the 6v ultramax needs two 3.6v RCR123A's.. Now two 3.6v RCR123A's would be 7.2v.. right? Is that a typo?

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No the UltraMax needs two 3.2v rcr123a batteries. As far as I know there is no such thing as a 3.6v rcr123a. Where did you see that it needed 3.6v?
 

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In general batteries' stated voltage is nominal. For instance car batteries are almost always at 12 + volts, and charged at 13 to 14 volts.
Maybe for lead acid. I'm sure your aware these Lithium Ions are a different breed. Candlepowerforum is a good place to lurk around and Iv found 3v Lithium Ion batterys should never be charged on a 3.7 charger.

What Im asking is, since I just bought the pila ibc 3.7 charger. Can I use my pila to charge the RCR123A LFP 3.2v batteries you require for your Ultramax??
 
Maybe for lead acid. I'm sure your aware these Lithium Ions are a different breed. Candlepowerforum is a good place to lurk around and Iv found 3v Lithium Ion batterys should never be charged on a 3.7 charger.

What Im asking is, since I just bought the pila ibc 3.7 charger. Can I use my pila to charge the RCR123A LFP 3.2v batteries you require for your Ultramax??

Yeah I wasn't trying to say that they should be charged at 3.7, just that the voltage is nominal. Sorry for the confusion.

The CR123a and RCR123a are the same size so you should be fine running either.
 

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Sorry for the off topic post,

but where can i buy these? i've tried searching the forums. I'm looking for a supplier that has 3.0v protected batts & charger.

Thank you!


How about just searching on the Innovapor site? Here are the 3.2 LiFePO4s and they're probably what you really want...
 

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Maybe for lead acid. I'm sure your aware these Lithium Ions are a different breed. Candlepowerforum is a good place to lurk around and Iv found 3v Lithium Ion batterys should never be charged on a 3.7 charger.

What Im asking is, since I just bought the pila ibc 3.7 charger. Can I use my pila to charge the RCR123A LFP 3.2v batteries you require for your Ultramax??

the only way that you can charge them on your pila charger is if there is a switch to change what voltage they get charged up to, otherwise you will overcharge your 3.2v batteries. You need a charger thgat charges 3/3.2v batteries and I am prettyu sure that pila does not make one that does.
 

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the only way that you can charge them on your pila charger is if there is a switch to change what voltage they get charged up to, otherwise you will overcharge your 3.2v batteries. You need a charger thgat charges 3/3.2v batteries and I am prettyu sure that pila does not make one that does.

No switch. The Pila is designed for 3.7 But Im reading it can charge RCR123A's still confused.
Pila Product Reviews and Ratings - Batteries - Pila IBCT 4-stage Charger, AC Adapter from flashlightz.com

The only cell I know of with 3v is the tenegy. But Im not a expert. Tenergy 4 Pack RCR123A 3V 900mAh Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery with Smart Charger
But have read the pila should not be used for these.
 

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these are 3.2v. they recently changed the labeling to the green label that says 3.2v, but they are they same batt's that were labeled as 3V.

From what I have read. They have a diode which regulates the voltage... Or something. And aren't compatible with the Pila. Id stick with oveready. You normally do get what you pay for.

The CR123a and RCR123a are the same size so you should be fine running either.

Again. Im not asking about size.. And "should" just don't cut it when Im putting out a fire..

What Im asking is, since I just bought the pila ibc 3.7 charger. Can I use my pila to charge the RCR123A LFP 3.2v batteries you require for your Ultramax??

Pretty straight forward question.
 

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No switch. The Pila is designed for 3.7 But Im reading it can charge RCR123A's still confused.
Pila Product Reviews and Ratings - Batteries - Pila IBCT 4-stage Charger, AC Adapter from flashlightz.com

The only cell I know of with 3v is the tenegy. But Im not a expert. Tenergy 4 Pack RCR123A 3V 900mAh Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery with Smart Charger
But have read the pila should not be used for these.

It can charge those "size" cells but they have to be 3.7 not 3volts, I was stupid when I first started vaping and charged 3volts on a 3.7volt charger and those batts were ruined within a week, one actually had the outer plastic melt. I would just pick up the 3v charger.

What Im asking is, since I just bought the pila ibc 3.7 charger. Can I use my pila to charge the RCR123A LFP 3.2v batteries you require for your Ultramax??
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It can charge those "size" cells but they have to be 3.7 not 3volts, I was stupid when I first started vaping and charged 3volts on a 3.7volt charger and those batts were ruined within a week, one actually had the outer plastic melt. I would just pick up the 3v charger.



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I hear what your saying.. But how are these guys using the pila on RCR123A's?:confused:
Pila Product Reviews and Ratings - Batteries - Pila IBCT 4-stage Charger, AC Adapter from flashlightz.com

I guess I need to search for 3.7v RCR123A's and then pick the correct atty if I plan on trying the ultramax because Im not buying another charger.
 

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I hear what your saying.. But how are these guys using the pila on RCR123A's?:confused:
Pila Product Reviews and Ratings - Batteries - Pila IBCT 4-stage Charger, AC Adapter from flashlightz.com

I guess I need to search for 3.7v RCR123A's and then pick the correct atty if I plan on trying the ultramax because Im not buying another charger.

I think you should try and get that answer from pila or a well educated seller, maybe the pila charger has some sort of smart chip in it that can tell what volt batt you are using and prevents overcharging but like I said that would be a question for pila or someone that knows a lot about pila.
 

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they are not, or at least not doing what you think they are. the RCR123A is a size, RCR stands for rechargeable cylindrical lithium based battery, and 123A is simply 1 X 2/3 of an A sized battery cell (17500). you'll also hear this battery size commonly referred to as a 16340 (and occasionally referred to as a 17340, 17335, etc.), meaning it is roughly 16mm in diameter and 34mm in lenth, with 0 indicating that it is a cylindrical cell.

now, this battery (RCR123A/16340) is available in 3V (really 3.6/3.7V but with a resistive diode), 3.2V (LiFePO4/IFR), and standard 3.6/3.7V (LiCo/ICR, LiMN/IMR) configurations. you can only charge the standard 3.6/3.7V configuration of this battery in the pila, and that is what users are saying when they state that it charges an RCR123A or 16340. the 3V versions need a special charger, even though they are actually 3.6/3.7V, and of course the 3.2V LiFePO4 batteries need a special charger as well or one capable of limiting the current to 3.6V at full charge, and not 4.2V like the pila or other 3.6/3.7V battery charger.

I guess I need to search for 3.7v RCR123A's and then pick the correct atty if I plan on trying the ultramax because Im not buying another charger.

the ultrafire wf-138A is a great solution for charging that size battery in 3.2V or 3.6/3.7V configuration, or you can go with the wf-188 which also has a dual voltage configuration. but going the route of two 3.7V RCR123As in place of LifePO4 or resistored 3V batteries is not a bad idea, and it will extend the usage time because you'll use it with a HR atty which decreases the amperage demanded of the batteries and there's no resistor in there taking up space or wasted energy. so depending on what atty you were going to use initially with a 6V setup, you'll want a HV version in the range of of roughly 4.5-5.5Ω. hope this helps a bit.
 

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but going the route of two 3.7V RCR123As in place of LifePO4 or resistored 3V batteries is not a bad idea, and it will extend the usage time because you'll use it with a HR atty which decreases the amperage demanded of the batteries and there's no resistor in there taking up space or wasted energy. so depending on what atty you were going to use initially with a 6V setup, you'll want a HV version in the range of of roughly 4.5-5.5Ω. hope this helps a bit.

Ding Ding Ding! That helped allot. Thanks buGG.

How about these.. AW RCR123a Protected 750 mAh Battery

Also heard good reviews on batterystation RCR123a's but dont see a voltage listed.
http://www.batterystation.com/cr123a.htm

Could you post a link to the best atty for a pair of 3.7v batteries please?:vapor:
 
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