Ok so I have three grands and I need 1 more atomizer to throw on top of my last one. I have an odin, rm4, and rm2. I'm looking at grabbing either a Derringer or a Nuppin. For those of you that have both or those or you that have either what do you think the pros and cons of each are and what do you recommend? Lets hear your input!
RDA fight night! Nuppin vs Derringer give me your opinion.
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I'm thinking that the New Nuppin' will be even better than the first. I have a Derringer it's good but it's not a Nuppin'.
Well the nuppins just kick .... Great little flavor bomb, but if i open the afc all the way, i can get close to the amount of vapor i get with my odin wide open. Its just an all around solid atty. Still, i wouldnt mind trying out the derringer. The only draw back is i cant use a router drip tip on the derringer. Itd look too funny.
i find the biggest positive of the nuppin is the drainage. it was designed to squonk, not designed to drip then add a feeding pos pin
but i just ordered a derringer, should get here this week and i am keen to try it
and i have another 4 of these coming since they are my goto favourite A6 Dual Coil SS RDA
but i just ordered a derringer, should get here this week and i am keen to try it
and i have another 4 of these coming since they are my goto favourite A6 Dual Coil SS RDA
Well.... those are two of the very best atties available today.
Some thoughts:
* Build ease goes to the Derringer. It's not that the Nuppin' is hard to build on (other than the learning curve on the neg legs), it's just that the Derringer is ridiculously easy.
* The Nuppin' hits harder (feels like .1ohm lower resistance on identical builds), but the Derringer vapes hotter.
* Manufacturing quality (if you get an authentic Derringer, don't know about a clone) is a draw - both are excellent quality.
* Neither leak to speak of.
* Air flow control edge goes to the Nup' - I'm just a bigger fan of the 'straight' cyclops afc than the 3 holed design of the Derr, plus the separate afc ring of the latter gets messy and introduces another o-ring to manage. Not a big issue for me, but it is what it is.
* Nothing squonks and drains better than the Nuppin', although the Derringer (via CH) is fine.
* Some dt's look a bit odd on the Derringer as the cap has a raised lip, so some with OCD will be more restricted in choice. Also, the short cap of the Derr might introduce a shorting problem with some ss dt's.
* Build possibilities are prolly greater with the Derringer - it's straight forward post system (slots in the posts) allow for wacky wire configs (e.g., triple twisted, MM, etc.). I haven't seen the Nuppin' pushed as far.
* Flavour production for both of these atties is excellent - not much to choose between them.
* Aesthetics are so subjective that I have no opinion there - some folks like the unique lines of the Derringer, other don't like 22mm atties because of the overhang.
IMHO, these two atties are best of class for vapor/flavour balance and great for ADV'ing. You wouldn't go wrong with either. If I could only have one, I'd honestly have to flip a coin.
... but I'd prolly break down and get both
Some thoughts:
* Build ease goes to the Derringer. It's not that the Nuppin' is hard to build on (other than the learning curve on the neg legs), it's just that the Derringer is ridiculously easy.
* The Nuppin' hits harder (feels like .1ohm lower resistance on identical builds), but the Derringer vapes hotter.
* Manufacturing quality (if you get an authentic Derringer, don't know about a clone) is a draw - both are excellent quality.
* Neither leak to speak of.
* Air flow control edge goes to the Nup' - I'm just a bigger fan of the 'straight' cyclops afc than the 3 holed design of the Derr, plus the separate afc ring of the latter gets messy and introduces another o-ring to manage. Not a big issue for me, but it is what it is.
* Nothing squonks and drains better than the Nuppin', although the Derringer (via CH) is fine.
* Some dt's look a bit odd on the Derringer as the cap has a raised lip, so some with OCD will be more restricted in choice. Also, the short cap of the Derr might introduce a shorting problem with some ss dt's.
* Build possibilities are prolly greater with the Derringer - it's straight forward post system (slots in the posts) allow for wacky wire configs (e.g., triple twisted, MM, etc.). I haven't seen the Nuppin' pushed as far.
* Flavour production for both of these atties is excellent - not much to choose between them.
* Aesthetics are so subjective that I have no opinion there - some folks like the unique lines of the Derringer, other don't like 22mm atties because of the overhang.
IMHO, these two atties are best of class for vapor/flavour balance and great for ADV'ing. You wouldn't go wrong with either. If I could only have one, I'd honestly have to flip a coin.
... but I'd prolly break down and get both
Looks like ill give the nuppin a try. Production isnt too far out from what I understand. Pdib is a reonaut so I may as well support him!
I think for the most part, PapaL hit it pretty good. I would disagree with the Derringer being easier to coil though. Maybe my head just thinks outside the box like Peter, but I found the Nuppin' the easiest atty I've ever coiled, outside of the Mephisto... I watched his video probably 25 times before it actually hit me how easy it was. The hardest part of the process was bending the + lead wire. Maybe it's because the coils I have put on the Derringer are only 4/5 wrapped coils and they just seem somewhat stretched out between the wider posts. The Nuppin' hits harder, flavor and vapor are on per with any atty I've owned, including the Derringer. I have seen builds from nano's to MM to 4mm coils in the Nuppin' that consisted of anywhere from 30g down to 20g wire. Almost anything will work in that thing. I really have seen no downsides on the Nuppin' at all as it was designed and built by individuals that are tried and tested bottom feeders, and I'm sure that is why it works so well. The Derringer on the other hand, the only negative I have found is that it collects condensation too easily and every now and then it will leak out the AFC holes. I would think if it didn't have such a narrow throat on it, (up top), that would solve most of that problem. They probably could've just did away with the top throat all together adn it would be a great atty. Still though, it is no where in the league of leakage that comes in the form of the Odin!!! That thing was just a leaking machine. Worst atty I ever owned and all 5 I had are a thing of the past. For those that have them and enjoy them, best of luck to you, but I found for "me", it was a nightmare atty...
Excellent review Papa. 
Love my Nuppin's... there will be at least as many more of them from run 2 added to my gear.
Main thing that stopped me from buying Derringers... I won't run 22mm atty's on my existing STD/LP Reos - overhang. Just don't like the flow of things that don't fit together right in my minds eye, no matter how good they may be. The new flush 510 Woodie's may change that though (because I know that I must try out at least one Derringer sooner or later).
Love my Nuppin's... there will be at least as many more of them from run 2 added to my gear.
Main thing that stopped me from buying Derringers... I won't run 22mm atty's on my existing STD/LP Reos - overhang. Just don't like the flow of things that don't fit together right in my minds eye, no matter how good they may be. The new flush 510 Woodie's may change that though (because I know that I must try out at least one Derringer sooner or later).
I have two Derringers and 4 Nuppins (with plans to get 3 more of the Nuppins). The Derringer does overhang the deck on LP's but should work out great on the woods if you plan to get any of those. I've got a few non Reo bottom feeders that the Derringers are sitting on. The learning curve on coiling the Nuppin is a non issue to me. The "odd" bends get to be second nature really quick. They are both great attys but I'd have to give the blue ribbon to the Nuppin. As was said before, it was built from the bottom-up to be a bottom feeder.
I don't have a Derringer yet but I look forward to it. I've had my learning curve with the Nuppin, but it's not too bad. I think it's an overhyped atty but to be fair I haven't been with it long enough yet to have a firm opinion one way or the other. Good flavor, that's for sure. Go for it - get both 
Picked up a clone yesterday and modded it last night. Really liking it so far. Flavors good. Think im getting vapors tounge been tryin all different kinds of coils in it. Best part is the size on the reo, the whole unit is so small. I wanna go the other way with my setup now, i was at my B&M and alot of people are rocking box mods with the new sub ohm tanks and the things are huge.
You'll always be the King of the Mountain when it comes to pimping Papa. I decided not to wait and got on the list for 2 authentic Derringers with lots of extras so I can compare them side by side with my Nuppin's that I love so much.
Can't speak about the Nuppin, but the Derringer is what the Odin should've been.!
Crappy thing is it looks like the nuppin v2 and CH derringer runs are gonna hit about the same time. (Early march) Also wouldn't be surprised if woodvil run happens at same time. That could get really expensive!
If the people who own them say it's the "best they've had". That's not hype. If the maker markets them as the "best ever", that's hype.
You've not heard pdib say a word. Their popularity is purely word of mouth.
Yes it could, Roscoe. Yes it could (pats bank account on the head and murmurs "there, there").
If the people who own them say it's the "best they've had". That's not hype. If the maker markets them as the "best ever", that's hype.
You've not heard pdib say a word. Their popularity is purely word of mouth.
Chill my friend I meant no harm. I think even if I misused the term hype, it was still clear what I meant. An opinion just like others, and no more than that
Plus the more time i spend with it the more I like it. Hits like a beast
Edit - I looked up the word hype out of interest and you're totally right, my use of the word was totally off. My bad. What's the word in thinking of? Now I'm curious.
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I wasn't upset at all. Didn't mean to sound that way. I attempted to disagree in a civil way. No offense meant or taken my friend.Chill my friend I meant no harm. I think even if I misused the term hype, it was still clear what I meant. An opinion just like others, and no more than that
Plus the more time i spend with it the more I like it. Hits like a beast
Edit - I looked up the word hype out of interest and you're totally right, my use of the word was totally off. My bad. What's the word in thinking of? Now I'm curious.
Yeah I gotcha, but you've blown my mind because my definition of the word hype has been wrong for years. Now I'm dying to know the right word for what I was meaning to say. Lmao I can't stop wondering
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