RDA Round-Table Discussion and Lookout

[snow blind]

Thanks for this info man, I'm on the fence atm and I can get one barely used for $100 but after reading this, I may just pass. Not to mention, I think that thing is hideous. I did like Le Zephyr quite a bit though, it just doesn't get used much anymore due to the Nextasis and In'ax MKIII. Still somewhat curious about Le Mirage though since I've kinda wanted something to do dual mesh builds.... Anyone else with a Le Mirage that can chime in?



I can agree somewhat here as well, the more I use the drifter, more amazing I think it is. I personally don't think it beats the NarDA or the Snapdragon, but man is it close. It's so close that I can only notice the difference when vaping the same juice in a side-by-side comparison. There are just some subtle nuances that the NarDA and Snapdragon pick up that the Drifter doesn't but overall, it's like 95% as good as the other two, just considerably more inexpensive and easier to find.

Seriously @Sed8op8 , the Drifter and Snapdragons are the way to go unless you want get into mesh....

The Drifter/Snappy/Nar are all very, very close! For the simple flavor builds i do and the juice i vape i'd rank them as Drifter then Snappy then Narda in terms of flavor and air delivery (which can make or break an atomizer in my opinion). I think if the Narda's air was smoothed out a little or even angled and tapered as the upcoming Odis "O-Atty" (Super pumped for this - just look how easy that will be to build... and that huge well coupled with the angled air... a squonkers dream!) I think it might do a tad better. But again... pretty close... all 3 are probably the best flavor attys on the market right now IMHO.

I seen earlier when it came out the drifter didn't appear to get much love in this thread. I really like mine as well, it tastes fantastic with basic builds. I don't have a NarDA, but I do have the Drifter, the Snapdragon and the No Pity. They are all excellent, I think probably like the Snapdragon most for flavour by a fairly small margin. Of the three though as much as it is very lovely I doubt I'd buy another No Pity if I lost it, I'd pay more than double the current price to replace either of the other two without a hesitation.

On another note I recently ordered (and am still waiting on) one of these Verv RDA : Verv RDA based on the review Damian did on "A bloody good vaping". Airflow is interesting, looks pretty nice and the price isn't too bad (significantly less than any of those others for me). Not seen any mention of it (which is weird), anyone tried?

I was shocked as well. I think the Drifter was sort of passed over was because it's most def NOT a "clouds, bro clouds" atty and cannot fit much for builds in there. The flavor chasers are finding it now and it's picking up... it's also super popular with squonkers over in Europe. It's my Atty of the year so far! (and i have a LOT lol)

The Verv looks cool. I HATE top air flow attys but the Verv has that top, down the sides, then under airflow that i like. I'll wait to see how they review as a TON are popping up for sale right after release on all the flipping sites. Has me worried.

 

[kformeck]

I seen earlier when it came out the drifter didn't appear to get much love in this thread. I really like mine as well, it tastes fantastic with basic builds. I don't have a NarDA, but I do have the Drifter, the Snapdragon and the No Pity. They are all excellent, I think probably like the Snapdragon most for flavour by a fairly small margin. Of the three though as much as it is very lovely I doubt I'd buy another No Pity if I lost it, I'd pay more than double the current price to replace either of the other two without a hesitation.

I agree with this. For the record, the NarDA doesn't necessarily have 'better' flavor than the Snapdragon, it's just a different vape altogether. It tends produce thicker, denser vapor than the Snapdragon but with everything else aside, the flavor is about on par. Still a phenomenal atty worth checking out.

On another note I recently ordered (and am still waiting on) one of these Verv RDA : Verv RDA based on the review Damian did on "A bloody good vaping". Airflow is interesting, looks pretty nice and the price isn't too bad (significantly less than any of those others for me). Not seen any mention of it (which is weird), anyone tried?

I saw that, people are already flipping them when in all honesty, they aren't that hard to get. Yeah, you won't see them in shops but I saw a list going around where you were able to put yourself down for as much as 3 of them. I have no interest though; something about that airflow that I don't like.

 

[kformeck]

the upcoming Odis "O-Atty" (Super pumped for this - just look how easy that will be to build... and that huge well coupled with the angled air... a squonkers dream!) I think it might do a tad better.

I am soooo unbelievably excited for the O-Atty; my only concern is that they keep on reducing the length of those airflow channels which can present two problems: it reduces the leak resistance and it could reduce the amount of flavor from a single coil since the slots are even further away from the coil. Should be pretty awesome for a dual coil build though and I do love that downward angled airflow as well; that seems to work wonders in the P1 and the Premier atty.

I was shocked as well. I think the Drifter was sort of passed over was because it's most def NOT a "clouds, bro clouds" atty and cannot fit much for builds in there. The flavor chasers are finding it now and it's picking up... it's also super popular with squonkers over in Europe. It's my Atty of the year so far! (and i have a LOT lol)

I don't understand the hate for it here either; it might have something to do with it going back to a split center-post design instead of using the two-post design introduced on the Hobo v3. IMO, it just reduces the chamber even more; it might make the airflow a bit more turbulent and the build is slightly harder but overall, I'll take those cons for much improved flavor aspect. I never really got along too well with my Hobo v3.1 tbh.

The Verv looks cool. I HATE top air flow attys but the Verv has that top, down the sides, then under airflow that i like. I'll wait to see how they review as a TON are popping up for sale right after release on all the flipping sites. Has me worried.

Yeah, it seems like it's going the way of the arc atty. A few people told me the arc atty was terrible; one said he actually offended at how terrible it was and in no way, shape or form was it worth $120 or whatever they're charging. The Verv seems like it will vape well but won't be anything special which is why I'm going to pass on it until everyone that owns one starts saying it's better than a NarDA, Snapdragon, Drifter etc....

Ya know what, I've actually never heard a good thing about the Arc atty yet....

That O-Atty though, so much to love about that thing, that just might be the next special RDA since it combines the best of the NarDA, the P1 and the M-Atty all into one well-thought out design that has undergone over 7 months of prototyping and testing.

 

[mindriot]

I was shocked as well. I think the Drifter was sort of passed over was because it's most def NOT a "clouds, bro clouds" atty and cannot fit much for builds in there. The flavor chasers are finding it now and it's picking up... it's also super popular with squonkers over in Europe. It's my Atty of the year so far! (and i have a LOT lol)

I don't get it, I get both those things and see how it might hamper talks but still it came along and it was made out to be a pretty big disappointment compared to the 3.1. I near exclusively vaped the 3.1 from when it came out to when the Drifter came out, I've been vaping my 3.1 most of today funny enough but the flavour doesn't compare. The 3.1 was nice, it has good flavour and some cloudiness, a good balance. All the same though I tend to lurk I do read every post on this thread and it tends to generally have a good input between flavour, clouds and builder focused people putting fourth their say on various things. Was really surprised to see a lot of people turn on it and at the time no one at all seeming to like it.

The Verv looks cool. I HATE top air flow attys but the Verv has that top, down the sides, then under airflow that i like. I'll wait to see how they review as a TON are popping up for sale right after release on all the flipping sites. Has me worried.

It does look cool, not on much other sites so didn't pick up on that. I did throw a bit of trust behind that review, the dude generally appears to have quite a love of high end flavour chasing and the few things I have that he has reviewed are pretty spot on. It is quite a worrying sign though. It isn't the end of the world, it wasn't exactly free but it wasn't expensive for an authentic not made in China. Even if I don't love it, it will no doubt be good enough when the apocalypse comes.

IMO, it just reduces the chamber even more; it might make the airflow a bit more turbulent and the build is slightly harder but overall, I'll take those cons for much improved flavor aspect. I never really got along too well with my Hobo v3.1 tbh.

I do like the two post and I did (as above) love my 3/3.1. A lot of people seem to say that it is harder to build, I don't really find that personally. The difficulty argument to me is blown for more than one coil sharing postholes, it isn't much harder to do single coils, it is a lot more painful to deal with duals especially if you are going for TC build.

The Verv seems like it will vape well but won't be anything special which is why I'm going to pass on it until everyone that owns one starts saying it's better than a NarDA, Snapdragon, Drifter etc....

It is a little worrying, I'm not going to panic, if it is good and as easily pocketable as it appears then that will do me for shoving in my pocket on evenings out where I'd otherwise end up spilling liquid everywhere. People buy and flip stuff like crazy all the time without giving it a chance, not going to lose hope completely but will lower my expectations. Realistically if it is better than a 1.5 Petri then I'll be happy enough to have it kicking around.

 

[Sed8op8]

Wow I'm surprised there is so much love for the drifter. I got mine before it was released from vendors when everyone was f5ing the hobo site as I love my 3.1 but at first I was not wowed by the drifter. I am not a huge fan of the deck I'm not going to lie however the more I played with it I realized it is extremely build dependant and I get the best Vape out of it with simple round wire. It was collecting dust until I got the bf pin and I like it much better squonking. Its good just not holy .... amazing for me 8( I wish I liked it more

 

[Sed8op8]

I am soooo unbelievably excited for the O-Atty; my only concern is that they keep on reducing the length of those airflow channels which can present two problems: it reduces the leak resistance and it could reduce the amount of flavor from a single coil since the slots are even further away from the coil. Should be pretty awesome for a dual coil build though and I do love that downward angled airflow as well; that seems to work wonders in the P1 and the Premier atty.



I don't understand the hate for it here either; it might have something to do with it going back to a split center-post design instead of using the two-post design introduced on the Hobo v3. IMO, it just reduces the chamber even more; it might make the airflow a bit more turbulent and the build is slightly harder but overall, I'll take those cons for much improved flavor aspect. I never really got along too well with my Hobo v3.1 tbh.



Yeah, it seems like it's going the way of the arc atty. A few people told me the arc atty was terrible; one said he actually offended at how terrible it was and in no way, shape or form was it worth $120 or whatever they're charging. The Verv seems like it will vape well but won't be anything special which is why I'm going to pass on it until everyone that owns one starts saying it's better than a NarDA, Snapdragon, Drifter etc....

Ya know what, I've actually never heard a good thing about the Arc atty yet....

That O-Atty though, so much to love about that thing, that just might be the next special RDA since it combines the best of the NarDA, the P1 and the M-Atty all into one well-thought out design that has undergone over 7 months of prototyping and testing.

I just tried to find the O atty but didn't have any luck I'm taking a googling the verv now. Unfortunately I'm kind of out of the loop since all my sources for nice flava RDAs was primarily this thread and its been relatively quiet recently

 

[mindriot]

Wow I'm surprised there is so much love for the drifter. I got mine before it was released from vendors when everyone was f5ing the hobo site as I love my 3.1 but at first I was not wowed by the drifter. I am not a huge fan of the deck I'm not going to lie however the more I played with it I realized it is extremely build dependant and I get the best Vape out of it with simple round wire. It was collecting dust until I got the bf pin and I like it much better squonking. Its good just not holy .... amazing for me 8( I wish I liked it more

I get where you are coming from and can see why that is your point of view, though as I said I do like my 3.1 really a lot it is a different beast. I think I had a head start in that I'm pretty much all about simple builds. Not saying it is in any way a better view point or anything, it is just that to me a good RDA tastes awesome without having to do anything that takes effort, I don't particularly enjoy messing around with wire. So yeah I think when I got it I threw something along the lines of 8 or 9 wraps of spaced 27g 316L and positioned it so it was slightly overlapping the air ramp with some room to go under and also over. Turned out to be pretty good from the start, a bad start and some frustration would certainly have dampened the experience.

I just tried to find the O atty but didn't have any luck I'm taking a googling the verv now. Unfortunately I'm kind of out of the loop since all my sources for nice flava RDAs was primarily this thread and its been relatively quiet recently

Same here for the most part, usually a bit behind the pace of the thread as well hence not usually having any thoughts together till well after the time has passed.

 

[HeiSINberg]

Wow I'm surprised there is so much love for the drifter. I got mine before it was released from vendors when everyone was f5ing the hobo site as I love my 3.1 but at first I was not wowed by the drifter. I am not a huge fan of the deck I'm not going to lie however the more I played with it I realized it is extremely build dependant and I get the best Vape out of it with simple round wire. It was collecting dust until I got the bf pin and I like it much better squonking. Its good just not holy .... amazing for me 8( I wish I liked it more

Yeah, I agree with you too. I wasn't sure where all the hate for the Drifter talk was coming from, since I was sure I was the only one in here that disliked it. I've been a Hoberto fan from the beginning and always will be, do I regret selling it before the squonk pin came along? Of course. Would I buy one again just for that? Heck no. I don't think it woulda swayed me one way or the other. Plus this is where everyone normally differs, I don't think the Drifter compares to the 3.1 but hey that's just my opinion.

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[mindriot]

I wasn't sure where all the hate for the Drifter talk was coming from, since I was sure I was the only one in here that disliked it.... I don't think the Drifter compares to the 3.1 but hey that's just my opinion.

Since I brought that up (others may disagree), what I meant wasn't that there was any hate for it but more that it seemed like there was a lot of excitement and then a lot of disappointment. Maybe not even as far as general dislike, I may have missed it but as people started getting them I do not recall seeing a single positive comment. I may very well have read the situation wrong.

Although it is obviously not really what you meant, the comparison comment is interesting from the point of view that they have hardy anything in common, to me they are entirely different vape experiences.

 

[HeiSINberg]

Since I brought that up (others may disagree), what I meant wasn't that there was any hate for it but more that it seemed like there was a lot of excitement and then a lot of disappointment. Maybe not even as far as general dislike, I may have missed it but as people started getting them I do not recall seeing a single positive comment. I may very well have read the situation wrong.

Although it is obviously not really what you meant, the comparison comment is interesting from the point of view that they have hardy anything in common, to me they are entirely different vape experiences.

It was, and it wasn't. It's my opinion in that it doesn't compare and it's a fact that there 2 totally different rda's. So really anyone can take it any way they feel really, I thought about going back and adding that but I didn't feel it was necessary as it was already brought up in earlier comments. I really don't remember people outright bashing it, not many in here would down Hoberto's stuff that bad, from what I remember people said there peace and moved on about it. I personally think a lot of people had a problem with it even before it was first vaped cause essentially he went backwards, no that's not always a bad thing but in some people's eyes it is. I could care either way if it vapes decent, but that wasn't the case for me, so I sold it.

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[snow blind]

Interesting to hear others opinions that also have the 3.1 like I did. I found the 3.1 to be good but doesn't deliver the density of vapor that the Drifter does to me. Again... In a round wire only guy (unless I'm rocking a Goon on my Able for ....s n giggles lol) so spaced 26 gauge 3 mm .7 to .4ohm in the Drifter on a VV just puts out! The Drifter is a big improvement to me as a flavor atty because of the large 3 post block setup that when build with wide coils fills the entire deck completely and then the top cap sits riiiiight above giving you an unreal tiny chamber and under coil airflow. The 3.1 was just a more airy, less dense traditional side-direct air flow, short dripper. Great atty but flavor isn't anywhere near as good as the Snappy, Nar or Drifter for me personally . Diff strokes

 

[mindriot]

It was, and it wasn't. It's my opinion in that it doesn't compare and it's a fact that there 2 totally different rda's. So really anyone can take it any way they feel really, I thought about going back and adding that but I didn't feel it was necessary as it was already brought up in earlier comments. I really don't remember people outright bashing it, not many in here would down Hoberto's stuff that bad, from what I remember people said there peace and moved on about it. I personally think a lot of people had a problem with it even before it was first vaped cause essentially he went backwards, no that's not always a bad thing but in some people's eyes it is. I could care either way if it vapes decent, but that wasn't the case for me, so I sold it.

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That's cool I realise I may come over as argumentative possibly, I don't mean for that to be the case. It is really subjective stuff, it is very interesting how experiences can vary over some of these things.

I also don't remember anyone outright bashing it or being disrespectful or anything like that, the way I remember it was essence as you say. It wasn't that any of those things happened, it was just that there seemed to be no love for it.

 

[HeiSINberg]

That's cool I realise I may come over as argumentative possibly, I don't mean for that to be the case. It is really subjective stuff, it is very interesting how experiences can vary over some of these things.

I also don't remember anyone outright bashing it or being disrespectful or anything like that, the way I remember it was essence as you say. It wasn't that any of those things happened, it was just that there seemed to be no love for it.

I'm not taking you as such, I was hoping you weren't taking ME that way lol. I get it's all subjective, hell we'd be in trouble if there wasn't so many options out there! I know someone who like me has very very similar tastes, even he was shocked I didn't love the drifter. As was I, I've never not liked any of Hoberto's rda's. But it is what it is right, we could all go back and forth in here about what we like and dislike, after a certain point it becomes redundant.

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[jhhollier]

The 3.1 puts out damn good flavor IMO. It's still one of my favorite drippers and gets used daily.

So the O Atty is a NarDA with angled airflow and different posts? This is what gets me about the high end game. Everyone is dead set against clones yet damn near every high end mod looks alike. The attys all end up very similar to each other with maybe a minor tweak. And that's all okay.

 

[joiefrrr]

had a drifter but sold it, i like my narda better..... dont know why i havent that much liking or interest to the drifter, maybe not just a huge fan of it's "critical" coil positioning where you really need to adjust how far or close it should be to the post or how high or low is it going to be from the angled airflow to get the best out of it... though on my end, didn't experimented much of it and might try to get a hold of it again as i havent sold its ultem slam yet...

The No Pitty is very, very good. It's like a Magma/Snapdragon crossed with a Kennedy. Stellar flavor and nice restricted air flow. Only downside is dripping down the drip tip is a no go... will squirt right out the air holes.

The Le Mirage is honestly not that good. The Le Magister is better in every single way. Smaller, prettier, horizontal or vertical coils, identical wicking and MUCH smaller deck for MUCH better flavor. Only downside is you cant "clouds bro, clouds" in the Magister.

Honestly, if you're into flavor do yourself a solid and go pick up a Hobo Drifter. Hands down, best flavor of any dripper on the market. Honestly. Bests the Narda and Snappy... and that's saying a lot! It's very reasonably priced and the machining is some of the best in the industry as well. They are sometimes hard to find though.

 

[jhhollier]

had a drifter but sold it, i like my narda better..... dont know why i havent that much liking or interest to the drifter, maybe not just a huge fan of it's "critical" coil positioning where you really need to adjust how far or close it should be to the post or how high or low is it going to be from the angled airflow to get the best out of it... though on my end, didn't experimented much of it and might try to get a hold of it again as i havent sold its ultem slam yet...

All you need to do is get the coil close to the top of the airflow ramp and raise it a hair. Excellent flavor. I have two Drifters now and use them daily along with the Hobo 3.1.

 

[snow blind]

had a drifter but sold it, i like my narda better..... dont know why i havent that much liking or interest to the drifter, maybe not just a huge fan of it's "critical" coil positioning where you really need to adjust how far or close it should be to the post or how high or low is it going to be from the angled airflow to get the best out of it... though on my end, didn't experimented much of it and might try to get a hold of it again as i havent sold its ultem slam yet...

If you ever decide to get rid of the Ultem slam cap please let me know I'll buy that from ya! Lol

 

[snow blind]

Double post

 

[joiefrrr]

All you need to do is get the coil close to the top of the airflow ramp and raise it a hair. Excellent flavor. I have two Drifters now and use them daily along with the Hobo 3.1.

tnx for the tip brother... will try to get my hands on a drifter again... haha

 

[kformeck]

So the O Atty is a NarDA with angled airflow and different posts? This is what gets me about the high end game. Everyone is dead set against clones yet damn near every high end mod looks alike. The attys all end up very similar to each other with maybe a minor tweak. And that's all okay.

Yup, It's NarDA-esque airflow tabs with Project 1-esque angled air holes and M-Atty-esque clamps. It's nothing new but it's the first to combine the best of everything all into one atty so I am really excited for this to drop.