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jhhollier

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Anyone got any experience with the OverDose Dripper Ti? I can't even hardly find any pics of the deck.
Images of Team Overdose TI Dripper

That's all I could find. I did see multiple videos on YouTube, though. Looks like a more flavor oriented dripper IMO. Lately its been gigantic airflow attys talked about in here so this is a nice change.
 

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but hard to get good flavors on it meaning it isnt that easy to have the right build right?

the velocity was greatly designed for clouds but poorly for flavor. if you are looking for flavor then the velocity isn't for you.

the rda marked has a huge variety and it all depends on what you want to get out of it...

as Mr Mann said some time ago, on the current marked almost any rda can do clouds, but not all of them can do the flavor, so it is better to focus on the flavor to find the right atty

if you want good flavor and easiness of building look at the stro mini, hobo 3.1 or the stumpy for a 2 post rda, or look into an rda that has a two hole positive block like the thump.

I personally hate everything about the velocity except the ease of build; if I wanted to use something that high a tank is more suited, a lot of juice reservoir then the origens are better, better flavor, almost anything.
 

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I've been thinking on the bast couple of sleepless nights about cartomizers and the flavor that people rave on them.
it got me thinking and seeing that the new premade heads tend to look like updated cartomizers where the air passes on the inside of the coil..

I'm thinking of designing an rda that is made specifically for that kind of build but want to try it on something that I have before.

I'm going to build a vertical centered coil on my hobo 3 where the inside is almost flush with the 510 of the driptip and wrap around some wick on the outside, I know it won't wick that great, but this is more of an experiment to se the quality of the vape...

has anyone done something like this?

I'm trying some claptons on it
 

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I've been thinking on the bast couple of sleepless nights about cartomizers and the flavor that people rave on them.
it got me thinking and seeing that the new premade heads tend to look like updated cartomizers where the air passes on the inside of the coil..

I'm thinking of designing an rda that is made specifically for that kind of build but want to try it on something that I have before.

I'm going to build a vertical centered coil on my hobo 3 where the inside is almost flush with the 510 of the driptip and wrap around some wick on the outside, I know it won't wick that great, but this is more of an experiment to se the quality of the vape...

has anyone done something like this?

I'm trying some claptons on it
I've done chimney coils in my Marquis and absolutely loved it; best build I've found on that atty so far. Then I tried the exact same build on my ology and I hated it. It's a good idea and certainly worth the experiment. I'm interested in what you find, please post an update after trying it out.

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well here it goes
parallel UD clapton and 24 ai
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not the best looking in any way :)
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wicking
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added a sealer wick on top so any air that comes in is from the inside of the coil
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and now the vape...

just what you'ld expect form a carto, really moist gurgly vape, the flavor is there but the spitback and gorgliness is too much for now.

it is really hot and a bit too restricted for me, but I do see some potential here

I see this try as a failed attempt in the right direction
 

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It looks like the coil on the left has one more wrap than the one on the right, you want them both to be as close to identical as possible. That's about it.
haha yea i thought that at first too then i counted a few times... but it is the same... the outside of the coil is 7 and the other side is 6... because you are looking at the right coil from the inside thus 6 wraps and the left one from the outside thus 7...
 

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My Tobeco Aeolus v2 clone came today. Not bad quality and came with 2 airflow tips for the pro cap and the regular 510 cap. (Before I saw that another site started selling the authentics for $50)

I'm excited to slap a fused Clapton in it here shortly. I honestly haven't dropped since Friday afternoon. I got a freemax starre tank on my way out of town for the weekend and got really used to not dripping so much lol.
 

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After my excursion into the quad coil, I decided to back off and go back to a single coil (something I haven't done in a long time). Running a single coil on a Manta v2 (about 6 wraps, spaced, on a 2.8 mm ID with 26 AWG coming out at 0.8Ω) and it's extremely pleasant and tasty only using 24 watts (or 3.94v). In more ways than not, the Manta V2 is one of my favorite atties ever for how I would like to vape in the long term. To me this is a sustainable vape. And although there are a couple things I would change about this atty, I am proud to say that I love it as is and this one just can't leave my possession. That is VERY rare for me to feel that way about any atty. Each time I look at it and think that I could so easily sell it, I realize that money I could get for it, which is pretty close to retail, is less value to me than the atty itself.
 
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After my excursion into the quad coil, I decided to back off and go back to a single coil (something I haven't done in a long time). Running a single coil on a Manta v2 (about 6 wraps, spaced, on a 2.8 mm ID with 26 AWG coming out at 0.8Ω) and it's extremely pleasant and tasty only using 24 watts (or 3.94v). In more ways than not, the Manta V2 is one of my favorite atties ever for how I would like to vape in the long term. To me this is a sustainable vape. And although there are a couple things I would change about this atty, I am proud to say that I love it as is and this one just can't leave my possession. That is VERY rare for me to feel that way about any atty. Each time I look at it and think that I could so easily sell it, I realize that money I could get for it, which is pretty close to retail, is less value to me than the atty itself.
How does the manta compare to something like an origen in terms of flavor, heat and draw?

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It looks like the coil on the left has one more wrap than the one on the right, you want them both to be as close to identical as possible. That's about it.

This is not the first time I've seen this advice, and I'm not sure I buy it in theory. NO disrespect intended, but I do a lot of work with high pressure water. The similarities between water and electrons in terms of "flow" and "pressure" are undeniable. If I have two hoses connected to a common source, and one is short and the other long, as long as the orifice at the end of the hose is the same size (resistance), both hoses will have the exact same pressure (heat). Water, like electrons, will take the path of least resistance until it all balances, and it will.

So I think if I had a 4 wrap on one side, and a 6 wrap on the other, of the same diameter wire, electrons are going to take the path of least resistance until they balance. The 6 wrap side is going to produce more vapor since there is more surface area, but they will both achieve the exact same heat, as they are of the exact same resistance per unit of length. One is just longer, so will have more TOTAL thermal mass but will heat and cool in the same amount of time. Otherwise, I don't see a problem.

Even if different diameters of wire were used, it still wouldn't be a problem, The electrons are still going to take the path of least resistance, until they balance. One coil will just take longer to heat up and cool down. Performance wise, not ideal but we're not violating any natural laws or posing any kinds of risks.

In any case, not a big deal but if I accidentally wrapped a dual with a 6/5 on one side and a 5/4 on the other, I wouldn't tear it apart, I'd just vape it (and I am ;) )
 
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This is not the first time I've seen this advice, and I'm not sure I buy it in theory. NO disrespect intended, but I do a lot of work with high pressure water. The similarities between water and electrons in terms of "flow" and "pressure" are undeniable. If I have two hoses connected to a common source, and one is short and the other long, as long as the orifice at the end of the hose is the same size (resistance), both hoses will have the exact same pressure (heat). Water, like electrons, will take the path of least resistance until it all balances, and it will.

So I think if I had a 4 wrap on one side, and a 6 wrap on the other, of the same diameter wire, electrons are going to take the path of least resistance until they balance. The 6 wrap side is going to produce more vapor since there is more surface area, but they will both achieve the exact same heat, as they are of the exact same resistance per unit of length. One is just longer, so will have more TOTAL thermal mass but will heat and cool in the same amount of time. Otherwise, I don't see a problem.

Even if different diameters of wire were used, it still wouldn't be a problem, The electrons are still going to take the path of least resistance, until they balance. One coil will just take longer to heat up and cool down. Performance wise, not ideal but we're not violating any natural laws or posing any kinds of risks.

In any case, not a big deal but if I accidentally wrapped a dual with a 6/5 on one side and a 5/4 on the other, I wouldn't tear it apart, I'd just vape it (and I am ;) )

I agree with you mostly, this is the way I see it. if you have a smaller on on one side it will start to glow faster than the other (while pulsing without wick). I do this in almost all my builds but a bit different; I use single parallel builds, one of the wires is a clapton that has a longer ramp up time and I make 3 loops and the other is a 24 ai, at 5 loops that as it heats up faster it makes up for the ramp up time of the more massive coil...

so the shorter one will vape faster until as you said it balances out. depending on your build and power it is sometimes a better option to have uneven coils
 

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just got the stumpy and really liking it, there is something about center builds that carry the vapor directly into the mouth without bouncing or turning anywhere. it gives a really intense flavor even though the airholes are farther away.

it's still too soon to tell but I think this coil configuration because of what I said above will keep the wick cleaner for a longer time as there must be less condensation inside the chamber
single parallel 22/24 @ .24ohms with 1.5 holes open on each side
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just got the stumpy and really liking it, there is something about center builds that carry the vapor directly into the mouth without bouncing or turning anywhere. it gives a really intense flavor even though the airholes are farther away.

it's still too soon to tell but I think this coil configuration because of what I said above will keep the wick cleaner for a longer time as there must be less condensation inside the chamber
single parallel 22/24 @ .24ohms with 1.5 holes open on each side
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Been really thinking about buying one, nice first impression write up. Can you compare this to any other flavor atties you own? I love my origen, ology, Marquis and thump and have been trying to decide between this, a 454 v2 and a manta v2.

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