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Traijan

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Also consider that cigarette tobacco contains a lot of a type of topical anesthetic, to make the smoke "smooth"... vapor has none of that.

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I can find info that "clove" cigarettes contain eugenol but not anything about regular tobacco cigarettes containing topical anesthetics, where did you learn this from? Just curious as it interests me.
 

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I can find info that "clove" cigarettes contain eugenol but not anything about regular tobacco cigarettes containing topical anesthetics
Exactly. You WON"T find anything about it. Ever. BT has spent a lot of money to make sure of that. Or about the MAOI drugs they add. Or the exact combination of addictive pharmaceuticals they add... etc, etc...
 

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Exactly. You WON"T find anything about it. Ever. BT has spent a lot of money to make sure of that. Or about the MAOI drugs they add. Or the exact combination of addictive pharmaceuticals they add... etc, etc...
Actually, MAOI is natural ingridient of tobacco.
 

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Traijan said:
I can find info that "clove" cigarettes contain eugenol but not anything about regular tobacco cigarettes containing topical anesthetics, where did you learn this from? Just curious as it interests me.

Exactly. You WON"T find anything about it. Ever. BT has spent a lot of money to make sure of that. Or about the MAOI drugs they add. Or the exact combination of addictive pharmaceuticals they add... etc, etc...

Actually I did find it, again, though it wasn't easy. At least one is "levulinic acid" -- which I got from Chemistry and Toxicology of Cigarette Smoke and Biomarkers of Exposure and Harm - How Tobacco Smoke Causes Disease: The Biology and Behavioral Basis for Smoking-Attributable Disease - NCBI Bookshelf -- search the page for levulinic acid and it will pop up. I'm sure there may be others.

I also ran across the info that theobromine from cocoa and other sources are added as "bronchodilators" -- which explains a great deal to me about why vaping made my asthma actually seem to get worse -- I was inhaling *medicine* with every puff of cigarette smoke, which is of course not present in vapor.

And BTW, MAOIs are NOT added to tobacco or cigarettes; they are naturally present in tobacco and tobacco smoke. There is some dispute about whether or not they are present in WTA; I tend to think they may be, but I have no facts to back that up, just my own "anecdotal" evidence that I have not suffered any depressive symptoms since I added WTA to my vape, in my recovery from my smoking relapse, though my first time around (when I was not using WTA) I did suffer depression at the 3wk and 3mo points. It's a fact that BT adds all sorts of things to tobacco to make it more pleasant and more addictive, but the MAOIs are a gift of nature.

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