Real vanilla extract?

[Rickb119]

A few weeks ago I did some work at an extracting company and they gave me a 100ml sample of their Bourbon Vanilla extract. Being new to vaping and not really liking any (4) of the vanilla flavorings that I had, I thought, why not just add some to my cherry tobacco. So I did. And didn't taste anything. So I added some more, and some more, and some more. Finally got to taste something. Burnt coil! I'm just starting to get into diy and was wondering, can I add "any" of this to my batches?

 

[michaelsil1]

I've been trying to make Vanilla and so far I have fried a number of coils.

 

[Rin13]

I am confuzzled. Are you trying to make a pure extract using actual vanilla or are we talking about already made items? I'm going to do an extract with PG using a vanilla bean as I love Vanilla and all vanilla flavors I've tried thus far, suck.

 

[Rickb119]

The stuff that I have is bourbon vanilla extract (made from the Madagascar bean) straight from the extractor and was told that it is several time stronger than the stuff you can buy at the store. It smells wonderful!
I just want to add real vanilla flavor to some mixes. I already found out that too much real vanilla extract fries coils. The question is will adding a very small amount give me that taste of vanilla that I'm looking for (after I let it steep) without burning the coils. I know that darker juice gunks up the coils more quickly and that's ok. I wouldn't mind cleaning after only one tank if I could get the taste of real vanilla.

 

[MiamiMom63]

I've messed around some with vanilla extracts because I loved a particular vendors vanilla and hoped to replicate it. I eventually tried ordering a bottle of organic vanilla extract from a farm online in Oregon but it just wasn't any good for Ecigs. Somehow some extracts are more for foods and not Ecigs. I really don't know what was in the extract I bought but it wasn't right so I didn't Vape it. I eventually found the best vanilla to date at High Desert Vapes, their organic vanilla cream. I just can't live without that flavor now. It's wonderful mixed at 18% with 2% of their caramel cream, but you definitely have to let it steep about a week at least til it turns a light orange. I have had no problems with it messing up my coils and its been my all day Vape for about a year.

 

[MiamiMom63]

Also, it's Natures Flavors vanilla cream , so it states, but I have yet been able to find it on the Natures Flavors site to buy it direct and in bulk. They have oly one vanilla cream listed, which I bought with a friend of mine that also loves the HDV vanilla, and it was totally different than what HDV sells. We've been hunting for it and haven't been able to find it anywhere else, which makes me wonder if HDV is somehow mixing the NF extracts to make a proprietary flavor. It's had me and a few friends very stumped. It's real good stuff.

 

[Rickb119]

Thanks Mom, I'll give that one a try.

 

[MiamiMom63]

Sure. And I mix it with 100% VG nic. The alcohol base to the extracts thin the juice nice. I've also used TFA Caramel Candy and it was fine too. The little bit of caramel makes it have a slight sweetness and makes it a nice vanilla.

 

[BlueMoods]

Half of the trouble with vanilla is that the flavor of real vanilla is carried by natural oils in primarily the seeds of the pod. Oil is not good for vaping but, in removing the oil, you change the flavor of the vanilla. An alcohol based extract, like bourbon vanilla has a very low evaporation point (hence you add it after removing cooked items from the heat if possible to avoid loosing the majority of your vanilla flavor to evaporation) so not good for vaping either.

So how to find a good vanilla? (watkins is good) I took cooking extracts, heated a bit of them to reduce them by half, put the stuff in 1/4 cup of water with 1/2 tsp sugar to taste it. If it tasted like vanilla then, it was good to vape - so far only watkins and HDV pass that test.

 

[michaelsil1]

I am confuzzled. Are you trying to make a pure extract using actual vanilla or are we talking about already made items? I'm going to do an extract with PG using a vanilla bean as I love Vanilla and all vanilla flavors I've tried thus far, suck.

I've tried Extracting Vanilla with just PG and it works, but I had problems with too much Plant Matter and high Viscosity.

 

[Rickb119]

Bluemoods,

How much are you starting with if you reduce to half and then add water? Also, what % do you add to your mix? One more thing. Which of the Watkins vanilla's are you using?

Thanks.