Really a Noob (Haven't purchased ANYTHING yet, overwhelmed)

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Ray D

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You'll need to clean between flavors, or the old flavor will stay around and blend with the new. It's not a complicated process and there's plenty of youtube vids demonstrating how to do it.

BUT...

If you use menthol anything, plan on using only menthol on that head as you just can't get rid of menthol taste easily.

Another option, and not a bad thing to have around is a dripping atomizer or several. Makes "testing" juices much easier and swapping flaovrs is as easy as blowing it out and dripping a new flavor in most cases. They're relatively inexpensive and get you a good flavor. (They're just a PITA to use if not just sitting at home) They're as simple to use as 3-4 drops, vape.

You don't have to run out and buy an rda (rebuildable) just yet. Nor do you "need" an HH357 - although they're awesome. Just any dripping atomizer with a drip tip will do for now.

This is a decent starter dripping atomizer. There's even cheaper out there, but I like these.

LR510 Low Resistance Bridgeless 2.0ohm Atomizer (Cisco Spec) - Avid Vaper

They also make the HH357, which is considerably more expensive, but lasts forever. If you find that you like dripping, you might look into them eventually or an RDA.
 

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...a dripping atomizer. Makes "testing" juices much easier and swapping flaovrs is as easy as blowing it out and dripping a new flavor in most cases. ... They're as simple to use as 3-4 drops, vape.

So basically no cleaning in-between? A few drops of one flavor, vap it up, then a few drops of another?

And is the info about menthol the same with dripping atomizers? Use a different one?

Thanks for the info!
 
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So basically no cleaning in-between? A few drops of one flavor, vap it up, then a few drops of another?

And is the info about menthol the same with dripping atomizers? Use a different one?

Thanks for the info!

Not quite. You'll want to cover the open end with a paper towel and blow out the excess juice first. (Always blow in the direction of the natural air flow - IOWs, out the mouth end). Blow out until nothing more comes out. Give a quick "dry burn" (just hit the button 2-3 seconds at a time - pulses - with a second or 2 to cool off while lightly blowing onto the coil - stop each time the coils glow). 2-3 good "glows" should be enough. Don't overdo it or you can pop your coil. Then drip new flavor.

Once in a while, you'll want to run some ethanol (vodka or Everclear will do) through it to get it good and clean. Allow to dry overnight if you do that or expect a very HARSH throat hit. ;)

Yes, that menthol rule definitely also applies to drippers.

Keep in mind that dripping atomizers are "disposable." If taken care of, they'll last a long enough time. But they're not intended to last forever.

Edit to cover my bases:

Not sure I mentioned it, but you NEED a drip tip to use atomizers this way. They will get hot and you definitely don't want your lips on them. ;)
 
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OK I checked out a few dripping atomizers and I think I'm leaning towards this one after some other posts on this site regarding easy drippers for beginners.

I have to admit I'm a little confused by this as well. The point seems to be you can switch liquids without cleaning but they seem to be very similar to the regular atomizers with the wick, etc. Why do i not have to clean these like a regular one?

Opinions?

$5.03 SM20 Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - blue / 2.4
 

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Keep in mind that dripping atomizers are "disposable." If taken care of, they'll last a long enough time. But they're not intended to last forever.

Ok good that's kinda what I'm looking for. All I see is rebuildable drippers but for $5 (less than th cost of my analog habbit for 1 day) I'd rather get something that I can use and dispose of and not fiddle with rebuilding, at least not yet. So if I can buy the rebuildable and just treat it as disposable then thats cool with me.

I feel like once I find the juice(s) I like I will just be using the standard atomizer(s) anyway and won't need drippers any more. They're basically just a way for me to test out the dozen different flavors I ordered.

Thanks for all your input Ray. You've been very helpful. And thanks to everyone else as well of course.
 

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OK I checked out a few dripping atomizers and I think I'm leaning towards this one after some other posts on this site regarding easy drippers for beginners.

I have to admit I'm a little confused by this as well. The point seems to be you can switch liquids without cleaning but they seem to be very similar to the regular atomizers with the wick, etc. Why do i not have to clean these like a regular one?

Opinions?

$5.03 SM20 Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - blue / 2.4

That's a rebuildable. You would make the coils yourself.

If that's something you want to try, go right ahead but do your research first. And the quality of your vape will depend on the quality of the coil you made. You would also need extra equipment and supplies. An ohm meter at the very least (you MUST test your self made coils before firing them on your device to be safe). Plus wire, whatever you use for a wick, tools (mini screwdriver or allen wrench depending on what the device's screws are) among other things.

Rebuildables are NOT disposable. Only the coil (once it dies) gets thrown away. They also need a bit of knowledge and practice. It wouldn't be a bad idea to eventually get your feet wet rebuilding. But until you're up to it, just buy a disposable. don't overwhelm yourself when you're just starting out.

When I say "disposable" I only mean you can't rebuild them, and once they die, you toss them. It's not meant to imply they have a short life. If you're only testing juices with them, they might last months.
 
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Another thought is the dripping atomizer is $5 but I can get an iClear16 for $3.95. for the price would it just make sense to get a few of the iClear16's instead? They'd last longer and even if I treated them as disposable I'm still spending less.
With a little dripping atomizer, You can try some juice, burn off the residue in a few seconds, And try a different flavor, Because there is no wick material, Very simple and easy.
With a clearomizer you would have to clear clean All of that juice out of the wicks before using a different Flavor, You would spend hours cleaning them up Just to save a couple of bucks..
With a little dripping atomizer You could try 10 different flavors In just a few minutes
 

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...Because there is no wick material...

Hey HDRock, I looked at about 20 different drip atomoziers and every one of them had wicks. Can you point me to an example or 2 that do not have them (preferably from fasttech because they have free shipping at any $ amount and seem to be cheaper all around)

I wouldn't mind picking up a few drippers without wicks to try them. I did already go ahead and just order a few more iclear16's. They were under $3 each (they give you a discount when you buy 3+ of same item), figured I couldn't beat that. The deciding factor was this video (see link below) where I saw the guy clean his iClear in about 5 minutes. No alcohol or anything like that.

So I'll have (2) iClear30's and (5) iClear16's to try out different stuff on. Even if his technique doesn't fully remove the taste of the liquid and I have to use the alcohol method, with that many tanks I'll have plenty of time to wait for one to dry while using one of my others. My wife may also be getting a vape (after trying mine) so I figure the extra tanks would come in handy for when she gets hers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594DdLiK8jw
 
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I agree with northwestv4I - 101 vapes, just ordered my mvp 2.0 from there, and they are us based. fasttech takes 4 ever!!!!

Yes but when they are out of stock that's not going to get it to me any faster than fasttech (ironic name for fasttech btw if they take forever. haha). Regardless I already placed my order this morning. It says I'm looking at 8-14 biz days through USPS (NOT Airmail). I can deal with that.
 

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Yes Fast Tech is literally a SLOW BOAT from China. I hear a lot of people have issue getting batteries through customs, yet other don't but it takes forever. I order tanks from them, but you have to order 4 to 6 weeks before you want it.

Do you know which shipping you used? The AirMail did say 30 days plus handling but I chose USPS (also free) and it says 8-14 days.

Also I got the MVP and the battery is internal which they specifically said has no problems getting through. Hopefully that's the truth. I'll update when I do receive it.
 

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Shugga,
I hope you found all the info you needed. ECF is a great place to learn. I was really overwhelmed at first too, but now I feel a lot more knowledgeable. I started with an ego twist, and now I have 2 mechanical mods (K101 and a Nemesis clone), and I use a dual coil dripper, Rsst, and a kayfun lite clone. I ordered the clones from fast tech, and it took 1 month to get my order.

edit: I also chose the USPS free shipping. The order left fast tech pretty quick, but the Singapore post took a long time. I'm not sure if I would call that Fasttech's problem, I think it's more of a Singapore post problem.
 

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Shugga,
I hope you found all the info you needed. ECF is a great place to learn. I was really overwhelmed at first too, but now I feel a lot more knowledgeable. I started with an ego twist, and now I have 2 mechanical mods (K101 and a Nemesis clone), and I use a dual coil dripper, Rsst, and a kayfun lite clone. I ordered the clones from fast tech, and it took 1 month to get my order.

edit: I also chose the USPS free shipping. The order left fast tech pretty quick, but the Singapore post took a long time. I'm not sure if I would call that Fasttech's problem, I think it's more of a Singapore post problem.

I was just going to ask which shipping and then I seen the edit :) Hopefully it'll be a little faster but if not no biggie I'll be away for a while anyway so maybe I'll have a nice surprise when I get home, if not before I leave.

As far as the info, yes I've received a lot of info from some good people on here. Maybe too much hahaha. There's still so many options and so many recommendations I feel like I'd be doing research for days if I checked into every brand and part that I've been given suggestions for. I finally just bit the bullet on the MVP because I like the idea of the larger battery. It seems that it has some good reviews and at $45 I don't think I can go too wrong with it. Hell, that's what I spend in only 1 week on analogs now!

Thanks for your post!
 

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I was just going to ask which shipping and then I seen the edit :) Hopefully it'll be a little faster but if not no biggie I'll be away for a while anyway so maybe I'll have a nice surprise when I get home, if not before I leave.

As far as the info, yes I've received a lot of info from some good people on here. Maybe too much hahaha. There's still so many options and so many recommendations I feel like I'd be doing research for days if I checked into every brand and part that I've been given suggestions for. I finally just bit the bullet on the MVP because I like the idea of the larger battery. It seems that it has some good reviews and at $45 I don't think I can go too wrong with it. Hell, that's what I spend in only 1 week on analogs now!

Thanks for your post!

The MVP is a great device and you will love it. What ends up happening is that there are always one or two little nit-picky things you won't like about it and will eventually will want to try something else that you've seen from a review that it doesn't have those thinks that bugged you with the MVP. Unfortunately you will find some other different little thing with the new one. Lol (example - I love most everything about my Vamo V5 except that the buttons rattle when you are not touching them. Drives me nuts, even though there is absolutely nothing wrong with the functionality)

As far as I can tell there is no universally agreed upon "perfect" vaping device. There will always be trade offs.

Ken
 

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The MVP is a great device and you will love it. What ends up happening is that there are always one or two little nit-picky things you won't like about it and will eventually will want to try something else that you've seen from a review that it doesn't have those thinks that bugged you with the MVP.

So that explains why so many people mention they have multiple devices/setups. :laugh: I'm glad to hear from someone who has it and thinks its a great device. I'm sure once I get more knowledge from owning and tinkering with one I'll want to try something else as well. Always been a gadgety kinda guy. Thanks for the post!

I own the MVP and its a serious awesome upgrade from what i had been using. Comes with an iclear clearomizer and i am in love with it. Fantastic setup. Go for that one no doubt.

Thanks Bionic, I did go with that one, ordered it yesterday. Looking forward to receiving it and to kicking this analog habit. Glad to hear it's a "serious upgrade" from a lot of the devices recommended to me. Didn't want to start with a piece of junk or something I'd have to mess with too much or that it's batteries wouldn't last long enough. I could see that turning me off from vaping if its too much of a pain. Hell I figure if I get 6 months out of this thing (although from reviews I expect much longer) that it would have MORE than paid for itself anyway. Thanks for the post!
 
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