Received a 30+ watt device - now what do I do?

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Your method sounds good Thanks for that This was my first attempt at a parallel coil but wont be my last the flavour with the parallel coil in the kayfun is amazing


I adore parallel coils like the one you described, that's all I run in my PT2m. Just thought I'd share my method for wrapping parallels, it's a bit easier for me than the way you do it. I have a cheap power drill from the Chinese toy store (Harbor Freight), and what I do is tighten down my screwdriver in the chuck with my 2 wires, then run it at the lowest speed while pinching the wire down tight with my thumb. That keeps the wires straight and prevents the overlapping you mentioned, and it makes the coil tight. I do 8 wraps with 32g and it comes out to .8 ohms, which is the lowest my iTaste VV v3 will handle. I marked one of the jaws on my chuck with a silver Sharpie, which is how I count the wraps. Then I torch the coil while on the screwdriver until it glows red, pull it off, then torch it again while squeezing it between my tweezers. With 28g on your atty, probably doesn't need to be torched, but I do it because I'm using them in a tiny ProTank head and they like to spread later on if I don't torch them, and then they short out or the resistance goes up. I can't wait for my Seven-30, I really want to try it at 22 like you do because I can tell it wants more power. But anyway, my process might seem like overkill, but I thought I'd share, in case it helps you or someone else.

Current vape:
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PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
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thanks all

Steamer-- just to clarify when you say you drill out your own RDAs to be bottom feed, meaning you have a Bfeeder already and you drilled out your favorite RDA to fit it. Do you need a special drill press or something? i suppose there are no tutorials on youtube, huh

THe new lp reos I think fit most RDAs now right?...Thats awesome you dont have to pay the extra fee for that and were able to do that before they came out with the lp. Nice Collection! The third one over from the right is BF but not a reo, where did you get? Reo and Vmod seem to be the only players in town that i found for BFs, no?

"weiner" - thanks for throwing out some attys to check out. little lost on what ya mean regarding KF+v2 and a drop kit

"bonehead" - thanks for participating buddy! I saw some of the same reviews steamer saw and they seem to be a thumbs down for now. thanks much for your contribution and thanks steamer for chiming in (in case I didn't see some of those videos). So funny the real 3D came out recently and is selling for sky high price! l fastech said BAM-here is our 15 dollar version !

"cave" I was kinda just exaggerating a little regarding 2 drops for 2 hits. But after having a BF for 4 years. The thing drips with a press of a button ya know.

(sorry for any typos and misspells I usually use tapatalk on iphone who corrects my stupidity)
 
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The Black and White mods in the photo are home made there Arlos if you go to the battery mod forum you will find the thread
The mods were meant to be dual battery but I used one Battery and set up a squonk system from some rebuild kits I had from my Reo's
There is a thread in the Reo mods forum about the drilling out of RDA's to be BF like I said before it's not hard you press out the centre pin and drill it with a 1/16 bit You do need a drill press thou
My 2 Arlos have an Atomic and a Helios I converted to BF
There both DNA 30 Bottom Feed Awesomeness
You can buy an LP Reo and convert just about any RDA you want to use on it
I just wanted to take it one step further and have the DNA 30 chip
Heres a photo of the inside of My Arlos :)


thanks all

Steamer-- just to clarify when you say you drill out your own RDAs to be bottom feed, meaning you have a Bfeeder already and you drilled out your favorite RDA to fit it. Do you need a special drill press or something? i suppose there are no tutorials on youtube, huh

THe new lp reos I think fit most RDAs now right?...Thats awesome you dont have to pay the extra fee for that and were able to do that before they came out with the lp. Nice Collection! The third one over from the right is BF but not a reo, where did you get? Reo and Vmod seem to be the only players in town that i found for BFs, no?

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The Red Hana V3 is Authentic :) the black one is a clone
I got in the classifieds here on ECF
this is the very one in this video :)
Hana Modz V3 DNA 30 Review-VapingwithTwisted420 - YouTube

Well, that's gotta suck knowing your red authentic has been cloned right down to the individual number, and it's even a red clone. Not going to be much resale value in that authentic with a bunch of clones running around looking exactly like it right down to the number and color. No one will believe it's real.
 

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I don't care about resale I just really wanted one Being in Canada it's all most imposable to get the latest and greatest stuff out there
Time will tell if the clone will last as well as the Authentic I have both now and will know first hand

Well, that's gotta suck knowing your red authentic has been cloned right down to the individual number, and it's even a red clone. Not going to be much resale value in that authentic with a bunch of clones running around looking exactly like it right down to the number and color. No one will believe it's real.
 

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I doubt you'll have to wait long to have that question answered.


I would be absolutely floored if the clones lasted as long as the authentics.

I would be a little upset but I've would have also expected it. It's no different than any other type of electronic device in the past. You pay more for something that's new and then it gets mass-produced and readily available. Such as VHS players, microwaves, DVD players, CD players, stereo equipment, cell phones, computers, etc...

I also wouldn't be expecting my Chinese chips in my mods to break down quickly if I decided to by them because the Chinese are fully capable of producing proper working electronic products.

The concern I would have though is the fact that this particular device is being used in an industry with a small footprint with resellers not concerned so much about the products they are willing to put their reputation on the line by selling an inferior goods to make a quick buck on in an unregulated industry. The Chinese know this and also know their targeted consumer base will buy this instead of the competition for the price. So I see them having the mindset that QC can be lowered right now, having the knowledge of bugs in the programming but are just in a hurry to get their piece of the pie while they improve on their product. Also assuming that when they released an updated version that surpasses their previous release in quality and features, that their targeted consumer base will make another purchase because they'd still probably be paying less in the long run when compared to the competitors pricing.
 

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Your method sounds good Thanks for that This was my first attempt at a parallel coil but wont be my last the flavour with the parallel coil in the Kayfun is amazing

I've got an EHPro Kayfun, but it looks kinda ridiculous on my tiny battery, so I'm waiting on my Seven-30 to try it out. How's the vapor production?

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
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Not that great :( if your looking for a cloud it's not happening

I've got an EHPro Kayfun, but it looks kinda ridiculous on my tiny battery, so I'm waiting on my Seven-30 to try it out. How's the vapor production?

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice
 

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I'd say yes, most of the toppers are drippers for cloud chasing with a 30watt capable deivce
I am sure it is a nice device and you will find your vape with it.

That's plain nonsense.

You don't need to drip with sub-Ω, could chasing RDAs to get good use from a 30W device. You can, and maybe that's the best way to use ALL 30 watts from a 30W device, but it isn't the only way to use them.

Roll your Kayfun to whatever resistance you care to, and start at 12W. Move up from there at .5W at a time until you find what you like.
 

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Not that great :( if your looking for a cloud it's not happening

I'll have to work on that. If I can quadruple vapor production from a PT2, I'm sure I can find a way to get some from a Kayfun. I've already drilled mine out once, but the airflow is still abysmal, so I'll have to try with a bigger bit. I might just cut the pin in half, so I have the whole shaft for airflow. Gotta make sure that won't screw with the connection tho. But if I can get decent airflow, I bet I can get good vapor production.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
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If you can get well practiced with genesis atomizers, they do very nice at moderate power levels. I was able to get competitive clouds from my Pyrex RSST on my Provari. 2.4 ohm microcoil on hollow mesh running at 6 volts. Came real close to the Provari's 15W limit, but did very nice. They are the more complicated devices to work with, but once you figure out a genny, they're very satisfying
 

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I'll have to work on that. If I can quadruple vapor production from a PT2, I'm sure I can find a way to get some from a Kayfun. I've already drilled mine out once, but the airflow is still abysmal, so I'll have to try with a bigger bit. I might just cut the pin in half, so I have the whole shaft for airflow. Gotta make sure that won't screw with the connection tho. But if I can get decent airflow, I bet I can get good vapor production.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice

It sounds to be like you're trying to shove a square block in a round hole. If you drill the air hole out for cloud making purposes, you'll be killing what the Kayfun is for: producing top end flavor.

The Kayfun isn't designed to be used to make personal fog banks. It's design is specifically to enhance flavor. You can get really good vapor, but it's not a fog machine.
 

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I received a 30+ watt mod as a gift but I have no idea what to do with it please help (and don't say stick it up my bum and blow vapor rings out my mouth please:) )

I've been vaping 5 plus years! :) but for the last 4 it has been exclusively with a bottom feeding mod -

I have been building my own coils in the .8-1.1 ohm range at 3.7 volts and have been mildly satisfied with them - however the convenience of feeding the rba with juice at a press of a bottom has been great and why I've stayed with BFs for 4 years

Vaping on a .4 ohm rda at 20-30 watts if I gonna have to drip 5 drops to get 2 drags is kinda not appealing to me - so what is one to do ? what do DNA or 20 watt owners do?

I heard kayfuns are best at a 1.2-1.8 ohm w mild wattage - I have 1 clone n must agree

I currently own 1 kayfun clone, 1 kayfun rocket, and rbas that fit my BottomF- not really designed for outside use

Seriously what do people do with their 30 watt devices - I don't want to drip - been there 5 years ago and don't want to go back -- what are some options of things to buy to make this 35 watt device enjoyable - is there a rba that holds liquid that can handle .5, .6, .7 ohms and still deliver enough juice to the atomizer/coils to vape at 20-30 watts ---

Not all owners of 25 watt and higher devices solely drip ? Do they?

Any advice or helpful links will be great ! I'm desperate need - )

Use the same coil that you are accustomed on your kayfun, but add a second one in parallel.

eerrr I was going to say set the voltage on your mod to 3.7 volts but I dunno if it's one of those silly pieces of junk that do VW-only; but yeah; set the voltage to 3.7volts one way or the other.

So now you are basically vaping your kayfun twice; but it will burn twice as much power and twice as much juice;
 

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Thanks All,


But Wait. Just kinda to clarify. I guess part of my question was what are some good toppers to use on non bottom feeders that have 20 watt and above capabilities. Doesn't have to be exactly at 30 watts lol. And what are some good ranges of coil resistances to build-(I guess that part I can find out on my own experimenting a little as everyone is different)
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..... Poking around with this kayfun rocket type rba/rta at 1.2 ohm has been halfway decent. Somehow alot (which is good) of juice seems to get to the coil so no burnt taste at the higher wattages, I actually tasted some nuances in this flavor ive been vaping for awhile that were nice up around 18 watts.

But really I am tip toeing into the scene of non bottom feeders a little. First thing I got was MVP, Hades clone, and now this all with in 6 months and Im done buying devices. Time to buy a atty or two...... Only attys I have is kayfun 3.1 clone, kayfun rocket, and rbas that fit my bottom feeder. Hence my interest in some topper choices!.

Which brings me to what do you guys vape that don't drip and is not a kayfun! lol...that would be my long drawn out question :).

thanks for listening and any and all input so far and in the future

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That's the whole point of a 30 watt regulated mod. You can use whatever resistance you want.
You can experiment with higher resistances. With a mech, if you want to vape at 30 watts, you have no choice - you have to use about half an ohm. With dna30 or other regulated mod, you can just make a big coil without being picky about the resistance.
 

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You can put a dual coil on any device, which will get you around or under 1 ohm. That would require a good deal of the power you have available. Or, a Fogger v4 (or similar) dual coil bottom feeder tank is an excellent choice I enjoy at .9 ohms, about 20 watts. And it's always nice to have the extra headroom.
 

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It sounds to be like you're trying to shove a square block in a round hole. If you drill the air hole out for cloud making purposes, you'll be killing what the Kayfun is for: producing top end flavor.

The Kayfun isn't designed to be used to make personal fog banks. It's design is specifically to enhance flavor. You can get really good vapor, but it's not a fog machine.

I'm not drilling it out for clouds, but that's actually always been a side effect of drilling out my ProTanks. I just prefer an airy draw.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice
 

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I'm not drilling it out for clouds, but that's actually always been a side effect of drilling out my ProTanks. I just prefer an airy draw.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice

If you want an airy draw, I'd say the Kayfun probably isn't your atty. You may be able to get an airy draw, but you'll kill what the Kayfun excels at.
 

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If you want an airy draw, I'd say the Kayfun probably isn't your atty. You may be able to get an airy draw, but you'll kill what the Kayfun excels at.

I'm waiting on a Helios clone and a big Fogger v4 right now. I grabbed the Kayfun at my local B&M as something to play with. Didn't realize it was designed for flavor. However, even if I drill it out, I can still adjust the airflow back to what it is now. I'm pretty sure I can't drill it out anymore though.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice
 
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