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snd0304

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Hi all, I am using smokeless image equipment and i love it. My question though is that yesterday I received my blank carts and I added 20 drops and it was awesome all day. I only used 2 carts all day but I had filled all 5 but the next day there was no flavor at all in the unused carts the following day. Do they need to be stored cause after I filled them I put the condoms over each end just in case they leaked. Do they need to be cleaned? Some people I hear rotate their carts. How many are used in the rotation and how often do they top off the juice? Thanks for any help I can get. :confused:
 

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I do not clean cartos. They are disposable. Some spend time cleaning and drying them and most get mixed results. No juice goes in one of my cartos unless I know I like the juice and it is a thickness I will put in a carto. I also avoid any juice that is dark and not transparent (will probably drop a bunch of carto-clogging flavoring sediment). I put a juice I like in a carto and keep the carto damp with that juice or a compatible one until the performance gets too degraded, then I put it in a bag in case h*ll ever freezes over and I need to clean them, and I start a new carto. I can usually get a week of use out of one.

On a KR808D-1 (Volt etc) manual battery you can use a DSE901 standard resistance (not LR) atomizer and drip tip to test juices. On an auto, I guess use DSE901 cartridges on the atty since drip tips are not recommended on auto batteries. You can get those things at LiteCigUSA.net and if you get a plastic or delrin drip tip them you can also use it as a comfortable mouthpiece on a carto.

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I fill cartos as intended, no tricks, no forcing more juice in

How I fill a cartomizer (Vapor4Life for KR8 or Boge 510 for 510 which are all soft-cap w/ no inner seals and defined central air channel)

I use thin (20% or less VG) liquid or Vapor4Life WOW liquids, preferably clear liquids w/ no sediment

Filling a blank carto - I pop off the soft cap (unbent paperclip carefully in the mouth hole, not catching any wires or stuffing!). I hold some tissue against the threaded end hole. I tilt the carto and slowly drip 18 drops (per ml of carto capacity and these are 1ml cartos) onto the inner wall of the carto so it slides down into the stuffing while I rotate the carto (the first drops may take more time to wet the stuffing and be absorbed). Then I wait 15 seconds or so then I drip however many more drops the stuffing wants to soak up. Then I do clean-up. If it is leaking, I clean that up. Then I tilt the open end down into the tissue and puff hard a few times into the threaded end to clear any juice out of the central air channel (I want to see light through there). If it looks too wet above the stuffing, I gently touch a bit of tissue to the stuffing (otherwise that liquid will be gurgling or spitting in my mouth). Then since this was a fresh fill of a blank, I now let it settle. I lay the carto on different sides for 15-20 minutes. Then it should be ready to vape. If you use thicker juices than me, then you may need to let it settle longer.

As I am vaping - if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or tastes bit off or the carto is getting unusually warm, I will take the carto off the battery, open it, add 6-8 drops or whatever it seems to want (I will either hold a bit of tissue against the threaded end hole just in case, or skimp on how many drops I add to make sure I avoid drips if I have no tissue). I check to make sure the threaded end is dry, give it a couple of puffs into the threaded end to make sure the air channel is clear, and continue to vape.

Note - it is easy for me to "open" my main cartos for adding juice because I replace the white end cap with a plastic or delrin drip tip (I get them at LiteCigUSA.net). So I can easily pull that out with my fingers when I add juice and it keeps my lips cool if the carto is hot.
 
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I don't know smokeless image equipment. Are these carts (cartridges) or cartos (cartomizers). I think you're talking about cartomizers. Plenty of juice but no vapor/flavor is usually dirty atomizer or cartomizer. They do need to be cleaned. Some people boil, etc (you can search for carto cleaning), but as dormouse said, they're also disposable.
 

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Get two more posts in the new members section and then go join them in this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...87974-official-smokelessimage-com-thread.html

They can help you.

I used the blank volt cartos for 3 months. 20 drops seems a bit low to me. I was able to get 25 - 30 drops in. If you just filled them they should be fine, even after day of sitting. I would put a few more drops in the top, maybe 5 - 7. Once you see a drop come out the bottom stop. Clean the threads off with paper towel. Blow gently through the threaded end to clear any juice in the center tube. Clean the threaded end again. You should be good to go. Your cartos should last for days if not weeks before they need cleaning. Good luck.
 

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What juice did you use? What PG/VG? PG lets flavor through better and I feel high PG juices work best in cartos. Any more than 20% VG degrades the wicking and drag for me.

Other causes for lose of flavor/hit: low battery, using a juice that drops a lot of flavoring sediment clogging the carto or atomizer, wind or fan blowing the vapor away from your face, not remembering to smell the vapor, repetition - vaping the same flavor over and over, vaping a stronger similar flavor then going back to the weaker one, food and drink tastes in your mouth, other aromas nearby, hot drinks, alcohol, stuffed nose or sinuses, carto not damp enough, carto too damp, tongue sore and numb from nicotine
 
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snd0304

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Wow,
Thank you everybody for all the replies and advice. I use the Cowboy ejuice from smokeless image which I really like so i bought a 30ml bottle. not sure of the pg/vg content though. Im still doing alot of research on here but it does take a while since there is so much information on here from everyone. I am getting ALOT of vapor but the taste has seem no disappear even after I refilled the cartomizer.
 

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Smokless Image juice is 100% PG, as far as I know. Should wick very well. If you're getting vapor and no flavor I suspect you've burned out your taste buds. It happens to everyone. Give it a day or two, or try a new flavor, or try and find a palette cleanser. Should help. Good luck!
 
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JustaGuy

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Or palate. :p

I drink unsweetened iced tea, believe it or not it seems to cleanse my palate and I can taste again. :)

Palate/palette, I hadn't noticed. :p Tea, of course! It is a cleanser, supposed to be good for cleansing greasy food too. I'll pass it on to CloudCuckoo, going to try it myself. Thanks. :)
 

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I do not clean cartos. They are disposable. Some spend time cleaning and drying them and most get mixed results. No juice goes in one of my cartos unless I know I like the juice and it is a thickness I will put in a carto. I also avoid any juice that is dark and not transparent (will probably drop a bunch of carto-clogging flavoring sediment). I put a juice I like in a carto and keep the carto damp with that juice or a compatible one until the performance gets too degraded, then I put it in a bag in case h*ll ever freezes over and I need to clean them, and I start a new carto. I can usually get a week of use out of one.

On a KR808D-1 (Volt etc) manual battery you can use a DSE901 standard resistance (not LR) atomizer and drip tip to test juices. On an auto, I guess use DSE901 cartridges on the atty since drip tips are not recommended on auto batteries. You can get those things at LiteCigUSA.net and if you get a plastic or delrin drip tip them you can also use it as a comfortable mouthpiece on a carto.

---
I fill cartos as intended, no tricks, no forcing more juice in

How I fill a cartomizer (Vapor4Life for KR8 or Boge 510 for 510 which are all soft-cap w/ no inner seals and defined central air channel)

I use thin (20% or less VG) liquid or Vapor4Life WOW liquids, preferably clear liquids w/ no sediment

Filling a blank carto - I pop off the soft cap (unbent paperclip carefully in the mouth hole, not catching any wires or stuffing!). I hold some tissue against the threaded end hole. I tilt the carto and slowly drip 18 drops (per ml of carto capacity and these are 1ml cartos) onto the inner wall of the carto so it slides down into the stuffing while I rotate the carto (the first drops may take more time to wet the stuffing and be absorbed). Then I wait 15 seconds or so then I drip however many more drops the stuffing wants to soak up. Then I do clean-up. If it is leaking, I clean that up. Then I tilt the open end down into the tissue and puff hard a few times into the threaded end to clear any juice out of the central air channel (I want to see light through there). If it looks too wet above the stuffing, I gently touch a bit of tissue to the stuffing (otherwise that liquid will be gurgling or spitting in my mouth). Then since this was a fresh fill of a blank, I now let it settle. I lay the carto on different sides for 15-20 minutes. Then it should be ready to vape. If you use thicker juices than me, then you may need to let it settle longer.

As I am vaping - if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or tastes bit off or the carto is getting unusually warm, I will take the carto off the battery, open it, add 6-8 drops or whatever it seems to want (I will either hold a bit of tissue against the threaded end hole just in case, or skimp on how many drops I add to make sure I avoid drips if I have no tissue). I check to make sure the threaded end is dry, give it a couple of puffs into the threaded end to make sure the air channel is clear, and continue to vape.

Note - it is easy for me to "open" my main cartos for adding juice because I replace the white end cap with a plastic or delrin drip tip (I get them at LiteCigUSA.net). So I can easily pull that out with my fingers when I add juice and it keeps my lips cool if the carto is hot.

That pretty much covers it.
 

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Awesome thanks for the advice I'm gonna try this. I'm at 2 weeks and a few days of malfunctioning taste buds. I want my Boba's to taste the way it used to...sigh...

Well from what ive seen Bobas Bounty can change flavoring slightly each time you vape it. Steeping probably has a lot to do with the change in flavor as well.
 
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