Regarding steep times...

[AlexanderJ]

I see a lot of people talking about their steep times , and I feel like it would be more appropriate to use the"born on" date as opposed to the amount of time its been out of your mailbox. I know most people want to tell from how long they've actually had it, but how would anyone know how long they were steeping in house and through transit? I feel like when people say "steep time: two hours" or something like that , its just pointless. When was it made? Why does the clock not start when the juice was mixed?

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[jdrewry]

The clock does start when it's mixed (Clark usually makes a note of when it's made, and he'll give you a general idea of how long it's been steeping before it's shipped, and whether it's good FOOB when you get it, or if you should let it steep). IMHO, the majority of Nicoticket's juices are good to go when you get it, but I like to let my juices (especially CLS, CB, and Frenilla) get a good steep on them.

 

[Dominique Hoogduin]

id wager born date + steep advice on bottle.. more is better..

Just cant leave these small bottles alone long enough 0_0

 

[AlexanderJ]

Oh no I understand, but in the thread where people are giving feedback to Clark I am seeing people's steep time with their flavor notes and a lot of people are using a very short steep times to describe the flavor when it really has been steeping for longer than that since there's no way they got the bottle straight out of Clark's hands. Some people are putting down 0 or a few hours when in reality the bottle was probably mixed at least a few days before they received it if not much more . I know that more is better especially on certain juices, which is why I bought the 18 milligram creme brulee when I found out it was mixed months ago, it just seems like it would help people, especially in the threads where they describe the flavor and properties of the liquid if they went by the born on date as opposed to the amount of time its been out of the mailbox... I'm not complaining by any means, I just simply wanted to bring it up.

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[Kevin33]

I was thinking about asking Clark if on the new labels, the mix date and pour date could be added, but I don't know if that would be too much trouble or if anyone else would be interested in it. Another idea I had was making a sticky thread with a database of all the mix and/or release dates.

Would be kind of cool, but I am a super dork.

 

[Gators]

I was thinking about asking Clark if on the new labels, the mix date and pour date could be added, but I don't know if that would be too much trouble or if anyone else would be interested in it. Another idea I had was making a sticky thread with a database of all the mix and/or release dates.

Would be kind of cool, but I am a super dork.

I've been hoping for the mix date on bottles instead of or in addition to pour date also.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

In the feedback threads we mostly just want to explain how long the individual has had the eliquid that we are vaping. Not everybody checks the dates on their bottles but everyone can relate to whether an eliquid is fresh out of the mail or has been in a cabinet for a week or two. Saying "a few hours" for steep time just lets people know they let it get to room temperature before vaping it. Using an eliquid while it is still very cold or hot from being in a mailbox isn't a good idea. That's the only meaning of a couple hours steeping. It isn't really a steep so much as temperature management for a newly received eliquid.

 

[Kevin33]

AS far as the original post, I've also found that if something is hit FOOB, it usually gets a bit better after 24 hours with the cap off and then a day of shakes, - no matter what the mix date.

All of my NT packages take anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks, so they are already kind of steeped, but when the cap is taken off matters a lot too. I tested this with Frenilla. All my Frenilla was mixed on the same date. I never opened one of purpose to see if there would be a difference, and there was.

I also have multiple bottles of The Virus. I uncapped all of those for 24 hours. It seemed like the last bottle I finished, the last 5 ml really lacked some flavor, mostly the sweetness and caramel. I think it's because it had spent so much time with the cap off, as I shake the junk out of them before I pour. That last 5ml had gotten the same effect as if you left the cap off for a week. So the mix date is important and cool, but also the steeping that is done after you receive it is important.

 

[Silense]

I always count steep time from the moment I get it, may be a few extra days of steeping needed but overdoing it is better then underdoing it. And Clark is really good about posting on forums the day he made the "batch" so you can go by that date on the speciality juices. And yes leaving the cap off for too long really damages the juice imo, 24 hrs is all that is needed to "breathe". After that cap on, in cool dark place. The liquid will get darker as it steeps.

 

[AlexanderJ]

In the feedback threads we mostly just want to explain how long the individual has had the eliquid that we are vaping. Not everybody checks the dates on their bottles but everyone can relate to whether an eliquid is fresh out of the mail or has been in a cabinet for a week or two. Saying "a few hours" for steep time just lets people know they let it get to room temperature before vaping it. Using an eliquid while it is still very cold or hot from being in a mailbox isn't a good idea. That's the only meaning of a couple hours steeping. It isn't really a steep so much as temperature management for a newly received eliquid.

Good point...I never thought about temp out of mailbox...which is usually either very warm or very cool. Noted.

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[CorallineAlgae]

Good point...I never thought about temp out of mailbox...which is usually either very warm or very cool. Noted.

That's such an easy thing to overlook.

 

[Kent Brooks]

I would definitely say that steeping begins on the mix date, not the date the bottle was 'poured' or dispensed from the batch. That said, I wish there was an easy way to convey that information but there just isn't. The born on date is more of a general guideline to steeping - in every case any time we pre-steep the liquid is a 'bonus' - all will continue to get better with time an patience. The BOD is really more a guideline for the folks who deep steep - IE - an approximation of an expiration date. Almost all of the liquid should be good to go fresh out of the box (notable exception, short runs that have a mix-on date that is not at least 2 weeks in the past). The mix dates on the short runs are always noted on the website. We have tried to update the mix-dates on all the regular flavors (on the website) but they usually vary by nicotine level. As a good guideline, all of the liquid generally gets 2-4 weeks of steep time before we bottle and ship it. With that little variance, over an extended steep, it's not a huge difference to be truthful... it's mostly a concern for the people who are hitting it fresh (which we reassure it will be good FOOB, regardless).

Good question!

 

[AlexanderJ]

Thanks Clark...makes sense!

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[Kent Brooks]

Thanks Clark...makes sense!

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You're welcome! We've actually had an extended discussion before about how we can better communicate the mix date - we're always trying to think outside the box and give you as much info as you can to make a determination as to the "best date to vape it" - the best general rule is, give it a good 24 hours with the cap off when it arrives, load it up, store it properly (cool, dark location away from children and other vapers who will raid your stash), and when it hits for you, hit it hard.

 

[solace.discord]

the best general rule is, give it a good 24 hours with the cap off when it arrives, load it up, store it properly (cool, dark location away from children and other vapers who will raid your stash), and when it hits for you, hit it hard.

^^^ this. taste is subjective, and juices are different. I've gotten in the habit of trying upon arrival, giving a few days, sometimes waiting a few more- until I get that "wow" and then go to town!

 

[Kent Brooks]

^^^ this. taste is subjective, and juices are different. I've gotten in the habit of trying upon arrival, giving a few days, sometimes waiting a few more- until I get that "wow" and then go to town!

I think you need to keep this new AVI SD - pretty girl.

 

[solace.discord]

oh, you make me blush!!

thank you.