Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

[RobinBanks]

I was dripping at home all weekend long and I like it! Finally got the hang of it.
I am recovering from vaper's tongue and can only taste some of my juices a little bit, so I ended up dripping and switching everything up constantly and testing instead of filling up tanks.... really started to like it. .. so much more flavor. I don't think I'll drip exclusively.. won't work for my long commutes in the car or for at work, but at home.. I'm digging it. I'm going to order some more atomizers and drip tips today. Just found some awesome drip tips at Cherry Vapes that I probably won't be able to resist.

 

[peraspera]

I forgot to mention the AMP tank! I like it too, but a lot of people have leak problems with it. And it's not exactly robust; I would shy away from putting it in my pocket or taking it in my car. So I'm not comfortable suggesting it to new drippers. It also costs $130.

None of my five AMP Tanks has ever leaked except for the one time I deliberately flooded one to see what would happen. Perhaps temperature changes might cause leaking issue due to pressure changes in the tank? I dunno. However, if one is grown up enough to take a glass tank out and about (that would certainly not be me) one can simply put the AMP Tank in manual mode. That way there is no place for it to leak.

I would wholeheartedly agree that the price of the AMP Tank is painful. However, I simply don't know what to think about their suitability for someone fairly new to vaping because I struggled so much with "beginner" dripping atties but could easily vape my heart out from the gitgo with the AMP Tank.

I'm trying to not let my expectations get out of hand but I'm hopeful that the new Aurora BFT might be a relatively easy and inexpensive solution for those of use who love the taste and performance of dripping but don't care for the process or need something for on the go. The Aurora is basically a kit that turns a tube PV into a bottom feeder. It takes normal dripping atties or a tube/atty that is rebuildable. The Aurora appears to feed on the same principle as the VMOD-XL. Todd gave the Aurora a very good review.

So is the HH.357 really worth adding to a vaping kit? I understand that they might very well be the highest quality atty on the market, but it runs generally 4 times the price of a run of the mill lump, and it seems to require a little more TLC to keep going.

Personal preferences vary so much that I would advise comparing one or two cheap atties with a Cisco spec atty which is considerably less money than the HH.357s. Use VW or use VV and meter the atties to make sure you are using the identical amount of power. It's not uncommon for there to be a ±.2 margin of error for the advertised oHms. A difference of .4 oHms can be quite noticeable for some people, others not so much.

If you prefer the Cisco specs to the cheap atties it would probably be worth giving the HH.357's a try. If not, I can't see the point in spending the extra money.

 

[Mr.Mann]

This talk about the HH-357 has made me decide to finally send mine back (I'll do it this week). I hope Hanna can fix the issue with it shooting all the liquid back up in my mouth (not good). I can say that from all the videos I've seen, it sure looks like it performs well, but if the great taste it provides is because it sends the liquid, in liquid form, in your mouth, I can do without it. I surely wanted it to work (why else spend that kind of money), but it just didn't (and it wasn't user error). Luckily, I was told by Hanna that the warranty policy on that atty lasts as long as I have it, so that is a plus.

 

[The Ocelot]

Where do you get 10 Joye 306 atties for $42.95?

Vapor Kings, what billherbst linked to. I learned about the deal on the Phidias thread, I never would have thought to look there there, since it seems they are overpriced on everything else I've seen. If funny how things come around, I bought my first eGo kit from them.

 

[y cherry y]

This talk about the HH-357 has made me decide to finally send mine back (I'll do it this week). I hope Hanna can fix the issue with it shooting all the liquid back up in my mouth (not good). I can say that from all the videos I've seen, it sure looks like it performs well, but if the great taste it provides is because it sends the liquid, in liquid form, in your mouth, I can do without it. I surely wanted it to work (why else spend that kind of money), but it just didn't (and it wasn't user error). Luckily, I was told by Hanna that the warranty policy on that atty lasts as long as I have it, so that is a plus.

The HH is known for being spitty during break-in. I haven't had that problem, but that may be because I've always used the long-barrel version. Hanna is easy to deal with though. I hope you get it solved, because I know you'll love Sahara Blend in it! If we meet up anywhere in the near future, remind me to bring one for you to check out.

By the way, Hanna will refurb more than one atty at once for one return postage charge. Of course, not a lot of people have enough of these pricey atties to have a rotation going, but I know at least two who do, so others may benefit from this info too.

 

[Mr.Mann]

The HH is known for being spitty during break-in. I haven't had that problem, but that may be because I've always used the long-barrel version. Hanna is easy to deal with though. I hope you get it solved, because I know you'll love Sahara Blend in it! If we meet up anywhere in the near future, remind me to bring one for you to check out.

By the way, Hanna will refurb more than one atty at once for one return postage charge. Of course, not a lot of people have enough of these pricey atties to have a rotation going, but I know at least two who do, so others may benefit from this info too.

It was past the break-in (a week or so), but I will gladly champion this atty if it rocks my world.

 

[y cherry y]

None of my five AMP Tanks has ever leaked except for the one time I deliberately flooded one to see what would happen. Perhaps temperature changes might cause leaking issue due to pressure changes in the tank? I dunno. However, if one is grown up enough to take a glass tank out and about (that would certainly not be me) one can simply put the AMP Tank in manual mode. That way there is no place for it to leak.

Mine hasn't leaked either. But the seals holding the glass to the top and bottom sections come apart too easily for my taste -- as far as taking it out of the house, that is. Most of the known issues with leaking through the carb hole are, I think, due to folks screwing the atty open too far. But there are AMP Tank threads we should probably use for this discussion, so I'll leave it there. I do, however, count bottom feeders and the AMP Tank as just two takes on dripping. Whether the juice gets to an atty from the top or the bottom, if you're vaping with hot e-liquid an inch from your lips in a disposable atty, that's dripping!

 

[y cherry y]

It was past the break-in (a week or so), but I will gladly champion this atty if it rocks my world.

I know you will. There are a lot of reverse snobs out there (check out the 5 Pawns/$38 juice thread) who think anything expensive is a de facto ripoff, but you're a fair guy who just cares about finding good stuff and spreading the word. I love the HH.357, but I totally understand why someone who has a bad experience with it would be skeptical.

 

[RPadTV]

I'm actually working on my AMP Tank review today and will film it tomorrow. After learning how to manipulate airflow and juice flow properly, I haven't had any leaking issues and it works like a charm. I think it's a fantastic device for standard atomizer users that want some capacity. That said, I've only used it with 70/30, 60/40, and 50/50 (PG/VG) juice. Some people that use thicker juices have reported problems.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I know you will. There are a lot of reverse snobs out there (check out the 5 Pawns/$38 juice thread) who think anything expensive is a de facto ripoff, but you're a fair guy who just cares about finding good stuff and spreading the word. I love the HH.357, but I totally understand why someone who has a bad experience with it would be skeptical.

Thanks. I actually felt weird about using the words "overhyped" and "overpriced." I never want to go down that route, but hardware is supposed to work (flavors will alwyas be finicky), but I guess with all things vaping, YMMV. See, with things as simple as attys, there are factors such as draw time, draw speed, pull strength, too much liquid, not enough liquid and such that can change a good atty into a bad atty. With the HH, I was already a little put off about having to adjust "my" vaping, but I want TH/flavor/vapor (not really in that order) and willing to go the extra 10 miles on cost and extra mile on changing my style. To be honest with you, if the HHs work as I've seen, I would gladly get at least 4 more and rotate them so when two are in the hospital, I would have back-ups. Until that day, I am more than happy with purchasing 30 Joyes for the price of 2 HHs. <----Uh oh, there's that DIY over premade eliquid argument again. LOL

 

[Jerms]

I've said this before..

The HH has the best flavor and vapor I've gotten from a disposable atty. Not miles ahead, but still better than what I got from EM, Cisco, Iken, etc. It's not picky either; tobaccos, fruits, desserts all taste fantastic in an HH. It's rugged, holds a lot of drops, and doesn't leak.

With the HH I have, a quick and hard draw is a must; a slow and easy draw doesn't work. And well.. I just don't vape like that. Changing how I vape isn't an option; I tried to adjust but just didn't enjoy it. Same reason I'm not drilling huge holes in my rebuildables, I like taking long, slow drags with some resistance, and having to change that isn't something I'm interested in.

Which is too bad, if I did draw like the HH needs it would have been the last atty I bought. For someone who likes to do sharp, hard, and quick draws, the HH is an amazing device. And yes the break-in is impressive lol. Gurgle, spit, poor vapor for hours and then click.. a switch is flipped and it's rockin & rollin.

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[Mr.Mann]

I've said this before..

The HH has the best flavor and vapor I've gotten from a disposable atty. Not miles ahead, but still better than what I got from EM, Cisco, Iken, etc. It's not picky either; tobaccos, fruits, desserts all taste fantastic in an HH. It's rugged, holds a lot of drops, and doesn't leak.

With the HH I have, a quick and hard draw is a must; a slow and easy draw doesn't work. And well.. I just don't vape like that. Changing how I vape isn't an option; I tried to adjust but just didn't enjoy it. Same reason I'm not drilling huge holes in my rebuildables, I like taking long, slow drags with some resistance, and having to change that isn't something I'm interested in.

Which is too bad, if I did draw like the HH needs it would have been the last atty I bought. For someone who likes to do sharp, hard, and quick draws, the HH is an amazing device. And yes the break-in is impressive lol. Gurgle, spit, poor vapor for hours and then click.. a switch is flipped and it's rockin & rollin.

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Jerms, man, sometimes you make posts (such as this one) that makes me wonder why I even bother posting! You have a way with words! You also have a way with saying what I feel, but these daddy-days am incapable of articulating.

Maybe I don't really have it broken-in? Who knows?! Either way, I am with you on "I like taking long, slow drags with some resistance, and having to change that isn't something I'm interested in." But, I want to at least be able to say I got the damn thing working properly.

 

[y cherry y]

I've said this before..

The HH has the best flavor and vapor I've gotten from a disposable atty. Not miles ahead, but still better than what I got from EM, Cisco, Iken, etc. It's not picky either; tobaccos, fruits, desserts all taste fantastic in an HH. It's rugged, holds a lot of drops, and doesn't leak.

With the HH I have, a quick and hard draw is a must; a slow and easy draw doesn't work. And well.. I just don't vape like that. Changing how I vape isn't an option; I tried to adjust but just didn't enjoy it. Same reason I'm not drilling huge holes in my rebuildables, I like taking long, slow drags with some resistance, and having to change that isn't something I'm interested in.

Which is too bad, if I did draw like the HH needs it would have been the last atty I bought. For someone who likes to do sharp, hard, and quick draws, the HH is an amazing device. And yes the break-in is impressive lol. Gurgle, spit, poor vapor for hours and then click.. a switch is flipped and it's rockin & rollin.

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All true, except the draw doesn't have to be quick, as long as it's steady and pretty hard. But I've seen Mr. Mann vape, and believe me, he draws long, hard and continuous!

 

[Mr.Mann]

All true, except the draw doesn't have to be quick, as long as it's steady and pretty hard. But I've seen Mr. Mann vape, and believe me, he draws long, hard and continuous!

ROTFLMAO I knew I had a problem when I took the ProVari to the cut off, but hey, Joyes can deal with it.

 

[y cherry y]

I'm actually working on my AMP Tank review today and will film it tomorrow. After learning how to manipulate airflow and juice flow properly, I haven't had any leaking issues and it works like a charm. I think it's a fantastic device for standard atomizer users that want some capacity. That said, I've only used it with 70/30, 60/40, and 50/50 (PG/VG) juice. Some people that use thicker juices have reported problems.

I've never used it with any VG% higher than 50 either. But you're probably right about that.

 

[Jerms]

Jerms, man, sometimes you make posts (such as this one) that makes me wonder why I even bother posting! You have a way with words! You also have a way with saying what I feel, but these daddy-days am incapable of articulating.

Maybe I don't really have it broken-in? Who knows?! Either way, I am with you on "I like taking long, slow drags with some resistance, and having to change that isn't something I'm interested in." But, I want to at least be able to say I got the damn thing working properly.

Haha, thanks for the compliment, much appreciated.

I couldn't guess if yours is a bad atty or just not broken in. I'd suggest using it straight for a couple hours, drawing as hard as the draw will let you. I actually had to rebreak mine in after cleaning each time, but it was just a very short period. Make sure there's lots of juice in their too. It was kind of tough for me to get it right, flooded it performs poor and too little it performs poor, but once going it's easy to keep it working solid while redripping.

I have a fairly small mouth, so to draw it as hard as it needs I would.. run out of room I guess lol, so my regular mouth draw wasn't enough. To get a good mouthful of vapor I would start with a lung hit for a couple seconds to get the vacuum thing working and then close my throat to do the mouth draw. Vapor and flavor..... huge. Worth the effort? Not even. Regular size mouthed folks I'm guessing wouldn't have the issue I was having.

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[Jerms]

All true, except the draw doesn't have to be quick, as long as it's steady and pretty hard. But I've seen Mr. Mann vape, and believe me, he draws long, hard and continuous!

Are we still talking about vaping?

Good point, but I meant quick more as.. fast moving air instead of duration. For me to draw hard, my mouth is full of air pretty quick though lol.

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[Mr.Mann]

Are we still talking about vaping?

Good point, but I meant quick more as.. fast moving air instead of duration. For me to draw hard, my mouth is full of air pretty quick though lol.

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For my years of didjeridoo playing, circular breathing and all that, I think I don't have the normal I-need-to-breathe reflex. Yes, talking about vaping (and didj playing). LOL

 

[y cherry y]

I couldn't guess if yours is a bad atty or just not broken in. I'd suggest using it straight for a couple hours, drawing as hard as the draw will let you. I actually had to rebreak mine in after cleaning each time, but it was just a very short period. Make sure there's lots of juice in their too. It was kind of tough for me to get it right, flooded it performs poor and too little it performs poor, but once going it's easy to keep it working solid while redripping.

I hate to put this in here, but Hanna made a video about the HH.357 that really got me off on the right foot with the thing. Two points in the video to check are at 6:50 where he explains how to begin breaking it in, and 13:30 where he talks about cleaning it.

I warn you all: Phil Busardo he's not! This video is offered for informational purposes only. There is NO entertainment value whatsoever!

HH.357 Video User Manual/Informational UPDATED - YouTube

 

[Mr.Mann]

I hate to put this in here, but Hanna made a video about the HH.357 that really got me off on the right foot with the thing. Two points in the video to check are at 6:50 where he explains how to begin breaking it in, and 13:30 where he talks about cleaning it.

I warn you all: Phil Busardo he's not! This video is offered for informational purposes only. There is NO entertainment value whatsoever!

HH.357 Video User Manual/Informational UPDATED - YouTube

I watched that video so many damn times I could probably tell you exactly what is at the 6:50 and 13:30 marks! Hanna is a quiet storm. LOL