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Notice how all the big genesis-lovers talk about the superior flavor, but they all vape bubblegum, simple fruits, menthol or Pluid? I was all ready to join the club till I discovered that to get what is in fact greater vapor, I had to lose the draw I liked, the ease of setup and cleaning, and about 50% of the flavor. Maybe not 50%, but any complexity in the juices I vape was gone, and replaced by a one-dimensional cartoon version of those flavors. Pluid might be better in a genny -- I'll never know -- but Blue Grass Burley isn't. A lot of the genesis-worship reminds me of audiophiles with their $10,000 speakers playing Styx and Bob James albums. I don't listen to SPEAKERS, I listen to music.
YCY, yeah, I had gotten a really good genny (actually, 2 of them), but my GeJ liquids and my gruffy W2V tobaccos tasted horrific out of them. It was like big clouds with swamp juice. Everyone told me to vape creamsicle, Boba's, Mountain Dew, Kool-Aid, Tang or whatever else; but I ain't rockin' Kenny G over Coltrane just to experience the tool. The tool is not the experience--or at least not for me. For me, the experience is the liquid and if the liquid works best RAD (regular atty drippin') then that's what it is.
p.s. Bottom feeding is just dripping from the bottom up, so bottom feeding is all good to me.
p.s. Bottom feeding is just dripping from the bottom up, so bottom feeding is all good to me.
hi, because the resistance is lower, the current flows much easier and freely therefore eats more batt life. just fire up a 1.0ohm coil vs 3.0 coil..the 1.0ohm fired up almost instantly and very bright glow compared to the 3.0ohm. imagine a light bulb, wouldn't u say that a brighter bulb eats more power than a dim one?
A 1.5Ω atty at 3.7v on a ProVari last me a long time vs. a standard 2.3Ω resistance going to 5.0v. Similar hits but less power on the low res at 3.7v.
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I need a vv bottom feeder. NOW lol. Not sure if I want to pay 194 for a reo and hate it.
Dude, I have no qualms with Reos, but I have tried a Vapage and that little joker was nice! Those things are pretty inexpensive.
1.5 ohm at 3.7 volts equals 9.1 watts with an amp draw of 2.5 amps. You'd get the same watts at 5.0 volts with a 2.75 ohm atty, but draw only 1.8 amps. It seems like the higher resistance atty at the same watts will equal longer battery life because of drawing less amps, but here's the thing. For a variable device like the ProVari, you need to run the boost circuit to raise a 3.7 volt battery to 5 volts. Running that boost circuit increases the draw of the battery, since you can't make power without taking power. Depending on how efficient the boost circuit in the ProVari is, you may be using more power at 5 volts and 9 watts than 3.7 volts at 9 watts.
It's different when I run my VAMO with stacked batteries. Since the batts provide over 7 volts, the boost circuite isn't used, so a higher ohm device will last longer at the same watts as a lower ohm device.
I would have no reason to learn any of that if I wasn't into vaping lol.
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I knew it was about the boost circuit, but I didn't really even know what the hell that was called. That aspect of stacking batteries for the Vamo is a good deal. That is one of the ways I have seen the Vamo get super consistent output.
I see what you were doing. You were matching watts for watts but with different amps. I was confused because I was thinking, "I use a 2.2Ω ατ 5.0v for about 11+ watts. My 2.2Ω at 5.0 draws 2.4 amps. Here's the kicker: I don't understand any of that crap! LOL. But, I know how to get my vape right where I want it.
One of these days this will make more sense.Oh, and I love using my shift+"v" for the Ω symbol.
Yeah, with the 3.7 volt batteries we use I don't think there's any variable device that can actually go higher than 11 watts without stacking. Higher ohm devices means more volts is needed, and there's only so much a boost circuit can pull from a battery. Lower ohms means more amps are being taken, which is limited by the device. In fact, from what I know until recently the ProVari's amp limit was 2.5, so with a 1.5 ohm atty you couldn't go higher than 3.7 volts since that hits the limit, so if you wanted higher than 9 watts you needed a higher than 1.5 ohm atty.
That 11 watt limit was fine for me with regular atties, but I like to run my dripper RBAs higher at times. With one battery if I set my VAMO to 15 watts it's really only given 11 watts or less depending on my battery's charge. Stacking keeps my watts consistant through-out the battery life, and allows me to go up to 15 watts if I want.
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I see what you were doing. You were matching watts for watts but with different amps. I was confused because I was thinking, "I use a 2.2Ω ατ 5.0v for about 11+ watts. My 2.2Ω at 5.0 draws 2.4 amps. Here's the kicker: I don't understand any of that crap! LOL. But, I know how to get my vape right where I want it.
Oh, and I love using my shift+"v" for the Ω symbol.
Yeah you're 2.2 ohm at 5 volts will draw a lot more power because you're taking the same amps to run it at 11 watts as 9 watts with the 1.5 PLUS the power needed to run the boost circuit. If you equal the watts your battery will drain closer to the same rate no matter your ohms.
I can't use the ohm symbol on my phone
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Jerms, you continually impress me. It's not that you are saying things that haven't been said a gazillion times, but you have a way of speaking so that even goofs such as myself can understand. Be careful, I may just start asking you questions about how to make a baby stay sleep after you put her down! LOL
Yeah you're 2.2 ohm at 5 volts will draw a lot more power because you're taking the same amps to run it at 11 watts as 9 watts with the 1.5 PLUS the power needed to run the boost circuit. If you equal the watts your battery will drain closer to the same rate no matter your ohms.
I can't use the ohm symbol on my phone
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Which is why the way I run my attys on my ProVari, I easily go though 3 batteries a day. It's not an issue though. You just pop another one in. That was also a plus for me using the EM low res--I got a lot of life out of my batteries.
Ha! I was just lucky enough to find someone who explained it to me in ways I could understand. I was confused because ohm's law told me that higher ohm devices at the same watts should drain a battery slower than lower ohms, in fact the difference in battery life should be a LOT better with higher ohms. But like you, in practice that wasn't the case for me and I was baffled why. First someone explained it to me, and then I told him to dumb it down because I couldn't understand the explaination lol. So he did and then it clicked.
You can ask me any question you want about baby advice. Keep in mind, I know NOTHING of child rearing, so the advice will be terrible. As far as I know as long as you keep the food and water bowls full and let them outside to go potty a few times a day you're set.
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EUREKA!
Lines like that is my trick to avoid anybody asking me to babysit for them
I run through batts like crazy too. It's funny when I bought my VAMO I thought a 2200mah 18650 would last me like a day and a half. NOT the case, however stacking smaller batteries gives decent life. What I don't get is I think I only vape like 3-4 ml a day at most. Some people say they vape 20+ml a day, are they changing batts every hour or is most that juice being wasted??
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Lines like that is my trick to avoid anybody asking me to babysit for them
I run through batts like crazy too. It's funny when I bought my VAMO I thought a 2200mah 18650 would last me like a day and a half. NOT the case, however stacking smaller batteries gives decent life. What I don't get is I think I only vape like 3-4 ml a day at most. Some people say they vape 20+ml a day, are they changing batts every hour or is most that juice being wasted??
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Yeah, it would seem so. I don't know about that 20 mL a day thing. If they're using gennys, it's a good chance; but carto tanks and cartos in general can not be used up unless you want to vape some nasty stuff (there will always be at least a couple mL unused, unless they refill it, but then there is essentially a remainder--kind of hard to accurately asses). Maybe they're going through that much juice, but I don't know if they're actually vaping 20 mL. Who knows? Maybe they are. Good for them! Bad for their wallet unless they DIY or vape Dekang. Even still, I love vaping, but I like breathing in air more. Some people would rather vape than just breathe. To each his own.
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