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tiburonfirst

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i don't think too many of our prevets have ventured to the new location. and tweety is right, to be put together with the ''funy pics'' and ''music thread'' is an insult to all we have tried to do

and we didn't deserve the courtesy of an advance warning? and be accused of just worrying about post count?
 

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Well, I'm not sure I want to make it too immediately obvious since I'm a bit ticked. However the question Dusty is asking is logical, if not uninformed.

Are we simply offended, or are we worried that moving it will have an effect? If only offended, it's our problem not their error (other than delivery. It would have ended the same.) However, if we think it will have an effect.....it's justifiable to not only be ticked but to ask ourselves "what shall we do?"
 

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I wouldn't have been happy with the move in any case, but a little warning with an explanation would have made a difference.


Especially when Katya makes the time to be there for a turning when she's dealing with recovering from eye surgery and complications. people go above and beyond. At least we know that what we do counts... (unless i should be using the past tense)

I think the move will have an effect. And with warning, the thread would have died by the end of the year. Now it's hard to tell. My guess is that with the anger and recriminations we'll be lucky to make it through the upcoming vets on the list.
 
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tiburonfirst

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i'm offended, atty - we worked hard and i really thought our spot in general was deserved. we accepted any and all who found us and tried our best for each one of them

to be paired with ''funy pics'' is not acceptable to me and apparently that's where we belong according to ecf. this thread takes work and i gladly did it as long as i thought it was appreciated by ecf
 

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Remember....it's still about the pre-vets not the "office politics". That's what classy was trying to say 1st. However, if the pre-vets don't find us.... what's the diff?

IDK forum traffic, but I'd guess that "General" was a lot higher volume visitation-wise than "The Lounge". And we were just discussing recruits to help out more. :facepalm: And one of them, SBecca, just "moved on". So it's Twilight Zone time for me right now. I can adapt and deal with it. But can't handle PVT alone. And all you guys/gals keep saying "gone" so now....IDK what will happen. Even classy. And I'm not even sure why...the move, us or the other forum? Sigh.
 

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I don't know the answers to any of your questions Atty.

I don't even know what i plan to do. I will post in the currently open welcome thread. And I will most likely be there for the people who are currently on the list. I'd be surprised if the thread lasts to the end of the year.

I am completely with you in the twilight zone.

I do have one thought about post counts- in the lounge we now have to turn away members with 1 year who don't have enough posts to be vets....cause we can't bring them up to count.
 

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Atty, this is not about the location--there are many chat threads all over the forum that have not been moved to the lounge, not to mention all those word game threads...

And even if there was an urgent reason to move the thread, somebody should have come to this thread and at least let us know in advance--if only to avoid another drama in an open forum. Too many pictures? We could have dealt with that; we have tried in the past. We could have set a limit on how many pictures are allowed per poster. We could have eliminated the pictures altogether from the thread and post more in welcome threads. Too much chat? We could have limited the chat ourselves if we were asked to do so. It's not a new problem, as you all know. PVT had 3 1/2 more months to live. It would have died quietly and peacefully on December 31.

I'm not offended that the thread was moved--I'm offended by the way it was done. And I'm really offended by the mods telling people to get out of here. That kind of behavior is unbecoming a person in position of authority. The mods should set the tone of the conversation and follow the rules themselves. They should set an example for others.

I don't know what goes on in other forums and I don't care. I joined ECF because it is a moderated forum and I thought I would be safe here... :facepalm:
 

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well, it's morning and nothing looks better - as to location and why i'm offended

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is this where an ecf vet celebration should end up? and ces' excellent point as to under-count prevets
 

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We've completely lost Katya? and we're losing you too. :cry:

this is not going well. I want to hang in for the people who are currently on the list. I don't want to punish them for the actions of others...but it is difficult for me to be around a lot, even without all this.

We may want to think about updating the list to let people know that we won't have coverage for late night turnings. alternatively, thread starters can email to give the turnee the option of rescheduling.
 

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ces - having the thread moved to the lounge was a slap in the face .....

tweety won't cover in the lounge and neither will i - prevets has nothing in common with 'funy pic' and 'have you ever fallen asleep with your pv in your hand'

i will post in the welcome threads on the list and possibly attend turnings if i happen to be online. i will not do all the work required for pvt to run smoothly as long as we've been classified ''off-topic'' and ''chit-chat''

i will update our list tonight to reflect our difficulties for covering late nite turnings ...
 

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Tibs, as I, and so many others, see it, PVT is a working thread, not a chit-chat thread. God knows how many times we have all had to drop whatever we were doing to attend avatar parties (that were IMPOSED on us, if I may add).

If this thread is not moved back to its original place for the remainder of the year, I can't go on.

I suggest that ECF moves the word-game contests to the Lounge first. And other chat threads.

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I was told to take my ball and get out of there. I'm going to follow his advice.

Sorry, kids. I tried to continue because of you, my dear friends of the Committee, but this was the last straw. Like I said--they just couldn't wait a few more months for this thread to die a natural death.

I coped with the injury as best I could--I don't need to cope with insults.
 

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I'm sorry you all feel that way. It saddens me to finally confirm what I had thought for quite some time, that PVT had become more of a clique looking for post count and forum fame and glory then a group dedicated to welcoming folks.

This is what did it for me, kids. I'm really sorry. A clique? Forum fame and glory??? Post count? If they are looking for post count fiends they should look elsewhere.

As I said, insults to injury. I can deal, and always have, with injuries--but not with insults. We didn't deserve this. I didn't deserve this. I don't need this in my life. I tried to do something good here. No good deed goes unpunished, I guess.

Atty, there will be plenty of help for late turnings, methinks. ;)
 
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