REO Technical Issues/Shop Talk

[Brew1961]

So to finish the follow up. I swapped in a previously unused/spare Chalice III and as of yet no failures of any kind. It seems I have an intermittent short in the Chalice or by coincidence had the button stick....on 3 occasions in 2 different Grands. I'm leaning towards a bad Chalice that ohms out just fine otherwise. Brew

Thanks again for your welcome answers. This particular Grand had just been swapped in when my other Grand was assumed to have the same issue. The button on this one was not gummed as I had given it a bath and cleaned out prior to setting it back in my spares inventory. So this issue has now happened on (2) grands with the same Chalice. Today I have a fresh spring installed and will be swapping in a yet unused Chalice from my spares. We will see where this goes from here. I did check the battery voltage and found it at 3.97VDC. When I put this atty on my screw-on resistance checker it showed 1.39Ω. This is exactly what I saw with the previous (3) spring drops and is what is driving my batty. I use (8) AW 18650s in rotation and I'm sure it has happened on varying batteries. I did not see any wire ends hanging or problematic although I'm no spring chicken and didn't use a jewler's loop to magnify. I have a Grand, Mini 2.0 and Mini 1.0 all with Chalices and this particular setup is the only one to give me trouble. I can say that I do crank down a bit on the post connections and wonder if I hosed something there. This is my primary 8-hours a day unit so not sure if it might be an insulator that's intermittently failing. I'll follow up in a few days or if this fails quickly to finish the thread. NEED MORE SPRINGS ;-) I still have 4 springs left but I'm getting a few more and I need repair or replacement of a badly glued Mini door. The magnet polarity is fine but too much glue keeping magnet from sitting flush... Brew

 

[cdmcfud]

Does anyone know the size tube the cappy V4 bottle takes? I know that the Italian bottles that Rob sells takes 2 mm ID x 4mm OD, but the cappy has a larger OD tube.

 

[Debadoo]

Does anyone know the size tube the cappy V4 bottle takes? I know that the Italian bottles that Rob sells takes 2 mm ID x 4mm OD, but the cappy has a larger OD tube.

You mean the original 6 ml bottles? I believe it is this 1/16" ID x 3/16" OD x 1/16"

this is a link I had saved for some.
1/16" ID x 3/16" OD x 1/16" Wall Tygon® Sanitary Silicone Tubing | U.S. Plastic Corp.

Might find it cheaper on ebay, not sure.

 

[muzichead]

Does anyone know the size tube the cappy V4 bottle takes? I know that the Italian bottles that Rob sells takes 2 mm ID x 4mm OD, but the cappy has a larger OD tube.

Not sure. I've heard its a larger tube than the FIB's though. Its also silicone as well so its pretty specialized. I have a couple bottles on order and will check them out when they get here and let you know.

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[cdmcfud]

You mean the original 6 ml bottles? I believe it is this 1/16" ID x 3/16" OD x 1/16"

this is a link I had saved for some.
1/16" ID x 3/16" OD x 1/16" Wall Tygon® Sanitary Silicone Tubing | U.S. Plastic Corp.

Might find it cheaper on ebay, not sure.

No I was referring to the new cappy4 8.5 ml. bottles.
Thanks anyway

 

[LarryPer]

If I dropped a spring can it be stretched back or do you have to replace it?

Thanks

 

[oplholik]

Best to replace it. What I've been told is that it won't collapse again.

 

[LarryPer]

Best to replace it. What I've been told is that it won't collapse again.

Thanks

 

[Train2]

Yeah - it's like blowing a fuse - you need a new fuse.
If you have to, to get through the night, you can stretch it and vape - but FIND THE SHORT first, because that's like "jumping" the fuse - and you don't have a fuse anymore!

If I dropped a spring can it be stretched back or do you have to replace it?

Thanks

 

[Jugband]

Hey guys, I have a question for you. Here's my problem. Recently I got a great deal on a used Reo out of the classifieds. When it came it had the original contacts. I knew it had to make a trip to the spa for an upgrade. I just got it back today, looked great! As soon as I could I went to screw on an atty. No dice it would only go about a turn or two and stop. I thought maybe something was wrong with my Divo, grabbed a Cyclone, same problem. Long story short, I tried a handful of different attomizers, most wouldn't go past a turn or two, some I could really wrench on, but still wouldn't fire. Now here's the crazy thing, I have a bag of RM2's I don't use anymore, don't ask me why, but they work . Now all I use are Reo's, I use these other atomizers on all of them, just won't screw on my new 510. Of course I know Rob will take care of it if I have to send it back again, but I thought I would desperately try and see if someone can suggest a quick at home fix? Thanks in advance!

 

[puffon]

Hey guys, I have a question for you. Here's my problem. Recently I got a great deal on a used Reo out of the classifieds. When it came it had the original contacts. I knew it had to make a trip to the spa for an upgrade. I just got it back today, looked great! As soon as I could I went to screw on an atty. No dice it would only go about a turn or two and stop. I thought maybe something was wrong with my Divo, grabbed a Cyclone, same problem. Long story short, I tried a handful of different attomizers, most wouldn't go past a turn or two, some I could really wrench on, but still wouldn't fire. Now here's the crazy thing, I have a bag of RM2's I don't use anymore, don't ask me why, but they work . Now all I use are Reo's, I use these other atomizers on all of them, just won't screw on my new 510. Of course I know Rob will take care of it if I have to send it back again, but I thought I would desperately try and see if someone can suggest a quick at home fix? Thanks in advance!

Is the grub screw in the 510 out of adjustment?
Too far up?
Turn right to raise, turn left to lower.

 

[supertrunker]

My only thought is that there is a fault with the new 510 threading in that it's being so particular. Do inspect the threads for any damage on your Reo and the atties, because that could cause the jamming you describe. i managed to achieve the same thing once by dropping a Grand on the atty on a concrete floor and damaging the 510 threads.

Unless you buy some hardware, it's a not really a fix you can perform at home easily, sadly.

T

 

[Jugband]

Is the grub screw in the 510 out of adjustment?
Too far up?
Turn right to raise, turn left to lower.

My first thought was the grub screw. But the attys are hardly going on at all, not far enough down to affect the grub screw. But I did try just out of curiosity, no change.

 

[Jugband]

My only thought is that there is a fault with the new 510 threading in that it's being so particular. Do inspect the threads for any damage on your Reo and the atties, because that could cause the jamming you describe. i managed to achieve the same thing once by dropping a Grand on the atty on a concrete floor and damaging the 510 threads.

Unless you buy some hardware, it's a not really a fix you can perform at home easily, sadly.

T

This is what I was afraid of. Looks like a return trip to the spa.

 

[supertrunker]

Yes. I'd not advise anyone to try tapping out the threads themselves, especially without the tooling and ofc you know that Rob and the boys will take care of it and fast.

i would be interested to know why the RM2's work, but i suspect it's because the tolerances on the threads are either more forgiving, softer, or just worn in. i have some SS atties that are a swine to fit on some of my mods, but none that jam in the way you describe.

T

 

[Jugband]

Yes. I'd not advise anyone to try tapping out the threads themselves, especially without the tooling and ofc you know that Rob and the boys will take care of it and fast.

i would be interested to know why the RM2's work, but i suspect it's because the tolerances on the threads are either more forgiving, softer, or just worn in. i have some SS atties that are a swine to fit on some of my mods, but none that jam in the way you describe.

T

I know I can't do it, but I'm curious. What exactly is "Tapping out the threads?"
I'm totally puzzled as to why only RM2's work with it. I have two Divo's, neither will go on past a turn or two. I tried a few Cyclone's, they will go on if I force them, very clunky going on, not smooth at all. I have two Atomic's, one can be forced on, won't fire, the other only goes halfway. The only other atty I have is a Hornet, same as the Divo's, only a turn or two then jams. You could be right about the Rm2's being worn, they were all I used for years. That could be it.

 

[supertrunker]

A tap is how internal threads are created.

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/close-up-screw-tap-4103385.jpg

You screw this into a hole drilled in metal.

If you had some damage to the threads it might be possible to just run the correct sized tap in it and clear it, but it's really only the kind of thing a machinist, or hobbyist builder would own and likely not worth it in your case.

T

 

[Jugband]

A tap is how internal threads are created.

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/close-up-screw-tap-4103385.jpg

You screw this into a hole drilled in metal.

If you had some damage to the threads it might be possible to just run the correct sized tap in it and clear it, but it's really only the kind of thing a machinist, or hobbyist builder would own and likely not worth it in your case.

T

Nope, beyond my knowledge for certain. I'll just stop at the post office tomorrow and send it back.

Thanks T and @puffon for the help! Much appreciated!

 

[JetMac]

Hey guys, I have a question for you. Here's my problem. Recently I got a great deal on a used Reo out of the classifieds. When it came it had the original contacts. I knew it had to make a trip to the spa for an upgrade. I just got it back today, looked great! As soon as I could I went to screw on an atty. No dice it would only go about a turn or two and stop. I thought maybe something was wrong with my Divo, grabbed a Cyclone, same problem. Long story short, I tried a handful of different attomizers, most wouldn't go past a turn or two, some I could really wrench on, but still wouldn't fire. Now here's the crazy thing, I have a bag of RM2's I don't use anymore, don't ask me why, but they work . Now all I use are Reo's, I use these other atomizers on all of them, just won't screw on my new 510. Of course I know Rob will take care of it if I have to send it back again, but I thought I would desperately try and see if someone can suggest a quick at home fix? Thanks in advance!

I don't know if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance your Reo you got from the classifieds is a standard grand and not a LP Reo grand? This came to mind when you mentioned that only RM2's worked.


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[Jugband]

I don't know if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance your Reo you got from the classifieds is a standard grand and not a LP Reo grand? This came to mind when you mentioned that only RM2's worked.


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No, it was definitely a low profile. I have several, I have no interest in standard's. It wasn't that the attys were obstructed from going on, they would jam in the threading, most after just a twist.