REOMIZER 2.0 Initial Review

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clyde2801

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Got both of mine in yesterday. Local post office, out of habit, held them for me at their front counter.

This RBA has a lot going for it. Looks nice, fits my OMG** and VVG perfectly. Ceramic base allows use of unoxidized SS mesh. Appears to be solidly made. Posts are nicely set apart, and longer screws shouldn't accidentally come out as easily while recoiling. Pretty decent airflow and draw. Top cap screws nicely onto the base with real precision; i.e., the air inlet hole is always above the coil every time it's screwed on. And the RM2* as a whole screws onto the same place on my Grands on every install. Nice. It also doesn't discolor or darken the juice in my bottle after repeated squonking.

Most of all, there's the price for these features. I think Robert could have charged more for this RBA, and the fact that he didn't is a real testament to both his character and comradeship to the Reo community.

It's not perfect, though. But my issues with it are relatively minor niggles so far. For starters, the holes on the posts are pretty darned small: I have to use my reading specs or magnifying headpiece thingamagig to thread the coil ends into them. The delrin drip tip included with mine fits loosely and whistles a bit while inhaling. And ironically for a bottom feeder, it's not the best at feeding juice onto the atty's base and requires a longer and harder bottle squeeze than other rebuildables I've tried. Though this is offset by being able to peer down into the mod after removing the drip tip and being able to see the amount of juice that's present. Like many RBA's where the top cap screws down onto a relatively low base the top cap often detaches when I want to remove the RM2* from my Reo; a beveled edge on the base would be a big help in this regard.

It's been said that this is a dripper modified for bottom feeding, which explains it's less than stellar juice feeding. But it also has a nice side benefit: the ability to hold a fair amount of a second juice dripped onto it for a change of pace without contaminating the juice in the bottle.

My biggest issue is that for me it appears to somehow lose a bit of oomph in getting current to the coil. Case in point, I used kanthal and cotton wick (Thanks, Jan!) that read .79 ohms on my meter, but it didn't give me a ULR experience, even with a fully charged AW IMR battery. Other coil setups that measured in the 1.3 to 1.5 ohm range provided a somewhat unexciting vaping experience. This could be due to my (lack of) coiling skills, so I'll hold off on final judgment. And the .79 coil, while it doesn't blow my head off, is sufficient. Needless to say, I'm enjoying the RM2* more on my VVG than my OMG**.

So far, this isn't my absolute favorite rebuildable, but I can see it quickly becoming my go-to, daily driver RBA: it's many strengths outweigh it's few deficiencies. And I would highly recommend it to any Reonaut yearning to try their first rebuildable.

I've used it with ss-sheathed thick bulli on my VVG, but am enjoying the ULR cotton at 3.7v vaping. My next build will be to wrap a bit of SS around a thick sewing needle and coiling that to take full advantage of the ceramic base. Wish me luck.



*Reomizer 2nd edition
**Original Mechanical Grand
 
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I said to heck with it and tried 4 wraps of 32ga kanthal around a hollow SS mesh and ended up with 1.12 ohms. Now that's more like it!

I know there's a lot of cotton wick aficionados out there in the Reonaut ranks, but this setup allows for some decent vapor production while getting that really, really taste the flavors in your juice SS experience. The hollow ss tube also does a pretty good job at getting the coil itself fully saturated.

Something else great to say about this RBA is that I haven't had a dead coil setup on it yet; on other attys, it happens to me at least occasionally.

If you've got some ss mesh out there that you've previously given up on, get yourself a nice thick sewing needle or large unbent paper clip and try this setup. I've never had a mod that was so easy to set up a SS coil on, period. This RBA is already starting to quickly grow on me.

Again, sorry for the hijack.
 

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You're right. Let's see I can:

Cur six hundred pieces of Kanthal
Torch above wire. Oops, I have to go buy another Bic Lighter
Wrap six hundreds coils
Tear about 50 canton balls apart and roll them

Don't tell me, I've nothing to do

Or I could count flowers on the wall

Here ya go...

 

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I actually cut 15 +/- 4" pieces of 30 ga yesterday. Then I got all "food network" on em. Fired up the gas cooktop, grabbed a pair of hemo's and had em all torched and quenched (3 times each) in under 5 minutes. Used a big cup o cold water to quench em.

It felt a lot more dignified than standing in the bathroom doing it with a lighter and the faucet running.

Yes hon, I turned the stove off.
 

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Okay, take a small piece of ss mesh, roughly 2mm x 4mm (exact size not too terribly important) and your small straight utensil as in pic 1.

Wrap the mesh around the utensil as in pic 2.

The utensil helps to ensure the mesh is hollow to conduct juice better, and also helps you hold in it place while you install it on your RM2.

Heat some kanthal (I believe this is 32 guage.) and wrap it around your mesh. Pic 3. Install this on your RM2 like you would any other setup.

Helps to have a ohm meter to measure and test once it's on your RBA. Resistance will depend on the diameter of what you wrap it around and how much mesh you use (larger diameter equals more resistance) as well as what kind of wire you use to coil. This setup gets me roughly in the slightly below 1 ohm range.

That's it, period. It's so simple that even I think this reply almost sounds sarcastic and smart-assy. No need to oxidize the mesh, it does it itself after a few good vapes.

Oh, and I was having some leakage in my OMG after I installed a larger feed tube and bottle. The problem has been fixed, and-surprise, surprise-my RM2 is much easier to squonk. This could explain why I thought the RBA didn't have as much 'oomph' as I was expecting, it seems to have improved drastically after I cleaned juice out of my OMG and off the switch.

Starting to enjoy the RM2 more than ever.:facepalm:
 
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Okay, take a small piece of ss mesh, roughly 2mm x 4mm (exact size not too terribly important) and your small straight utensil as in pic 1.

Wrap the mesh around the utensil as in pic 2.

The utensil helps to ensure the mesh is hollow to conduct juice better, and also helps you hold in it place while you install it on your RM2.

Heat some kanthal (I believe this is 32 guage.) and wrap it around your mesh. Pic 3. Install this on your RM2 like you would any other setup.

Helps to have a ohm meter to measure and test once it's on your RBA. Resistance will depend on the diameter of what you wrap it around and how much mesh you use (larger diameter equals more resistance) as well as what kind of wire you use to coil. This setup gets me roughly in the slightly below 1 ohm range.

That's it, period. It's so simple that even I think this reply almost sounds sarcastic and smart-assy. No need to oxidize the mesh, it does it itself after a few good vapes.

Oh, and I was having some leakage in my OMG after I installed a larger feed tube and bottle. The problem has been fixed, and-surprise, surprise-my RM2 is much easier to squonk. This could explain why I thought the RBA didn't have as much 'oomph' as I was expecting, it seems to have improved drastically after I cleaned juice out of my OMG and off the switch.

Starting to enjoy the RM2 more than ever.:facepalm:

Thanks for the info Clyde, I've never tried SS so a couple of quick questions. What kind of SS mesh you using, is there a problem if the mesh contacts the posts inside the atty, does smaller diameter tube also mean it'll clog easier?
 

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Ease of squonking: has to be 10, most of my others are quite prone to flooding, and with RBA's, I find it's better to err on the side of more rather than less

Agreed, once I acclimated to no blind squonking, and just started squonking in what what would be a reckless manner with the A7, I've been amazed on this front. It seems like this atty is just impossible to flood. The A7 would flood and turn into a gurgling idiot if I looked at the squonk hole too long. :lol:
 

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Oh! Yeah! That's the other thing I forgot to mention, NO gurgling even when (visually) it's soaked pretty good. I'm on day 3 of my first coil with it, and it's still producing clouds of vapor and no buildup of burnt juice that I can detect.

Re: clouds of vapor - I sure am going through a lot of juice. I actually came very close to a nic coma with this thing :)
 

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Thanks for the info Clyde, I've never tried SS so a couple of quick questions. What kind of SS mesh you using, is there a problem if the mesh contacts the posts inside the atty, does smaller diameter tube also mean it'll clog easier?

I've got 300 and 400 mesh, really can't tell a difference between the two. Remember, since it's built around a big needle or clothespin, it's hollow inside.

You don't want it to touch the posts, that's why I put it on an ohm meter before I install it on my Reos. But I haven't had a problem with that so far.

And again, the earlier problem was a juice leak in my OMG, not the RM2. This thing does squonk incredibly easy and well.

I'll bring my mesh and pins with me to Ardmore in 2 weeks. May have to get some more kanthal in the meanwhile. I'll SS coil up anyone who brings a RM2 with them.
 

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I've got 300 and 400 mesh, really can't tell a difference between the two. Remember, since it's built around a big needle or clothespin, it's hollow inside.

You don't want it to touch the posts, that's why I put it on an ohm meter before I install it on my Reos. But I haven't had a problem with that so far.

And again, the earlier problem was a juice leak in my OMG, not the RM2. This thing does squonk incredibly easy and well.

I'll bring my mesh and pins with me to Ardmore in 2 weeks. May have to get some more kanthal in the meanwhile. I'll SS coil up anyone who brings a RM2 with them.

Sounds good, thanks again
 

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Well, 5 days into the REOmizer 2.0. Along about day 2, I ordered a 2nd one (backup, you know :) ) I wish I had something further to report from my original post, but my feeling is the same. I honestly haven't fiddled with it (except to remove the top and watch it feed several times a day....because I can).

The thought occurred to me today to replace the coil, because the flavor has dropped off about 5-10%. Nah! I'll run it until it really needs replacing, that way I can compare to disposable attys (average 7-10 days).

Retrospectively, I smoked for 50 years without any "hassles" except the occasional foray into a new lighter. When I started vaping (June 2007) I was forced to do an immense amount of fiddling, to the point where it had become nearly a fulltime priority, which I hated. Hence, despite the embarrassing amount of money I had already spent on vape gear, bought my first REO (original mini).

I've since bought 3 more (another mini and 2 grands). My daily vape since 2011 has been a grand, with a simple disposable atty, and it was a huge relief to be done with all the fiddling. Over the time since then, I've switched to unflavored nic (tremedous cost savings), and bulk disposable attys (another cost savings). And with the REOmizer 2.0, I believe I've found a further cost savings, without adding ANY hassles or fiddling (I've used A7's, ERAs, REOMizer 1.0, etc., but all were "fiddly").

So here I am, finally, vaping instead of smoking, with no hassles (unless you count playing around with different wicking materials just for the fun of it.) I'm a happy, thoroughly satisfied vaper. As I've said before, this is how vaping is supposed to be. Thanks to Rob, I can focus on other things besides where my next puff is coming from, it's become 2nd nature again.

Life in REOville is GOOD!
 

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Well, 5 days into the REOmizer 2.0. Along about day 2, I ordered a 2nd one (backup, you know :) ) I wish I had something further to report from my original post, but my feeling is the same. I honestly haven't fiddled with it (except to remove the top and watch it feed several times a day....because I can).

The thought occurred to me today to replace the coil, because the flavor has dropped off about 5-10%. Nah! I'll run it until it really needs replacing, that way I can compare to disposable attys (average 7-10 days).

Retrospectively, I smoked for 50 years without any "hassles" except the occasional foray into a new lighter. When I started vaping (June 2007) I was forced to do an immense amount of fiddling, to the point where it had become nearly a fulltime priority, which I hated. Hence, despite the embarrassing amount of money I had already spent on vape gear, bought my first REO (original mini).

I've since bought 3 more (another mini and 2 grands). My daily vape since 2011 has been a grand, with a simple disposable atty, and it was a huge relief to be done with all the fiddling. Over the time since then, I've switched to unflavored nic (tremedous cost savings), and bulk disposable attys (another cost savings). And with the REOmizer 2.0, I believe I've found a further cost savings, without adding ANY hassles or fiddling (I've used A7's, ERAs, REOMizer 1.0, etc., but all were "fiddly").

So here I am, finally, vaping instead of smoking, with no hassles (unless you count playing around with different wicking materials just for the fun of it.) I'm a happy, thoroughly satisfied vaper. As I've said before, this is how vaping is supposed to be. Thanks to Rob, I can focus on other things besides where my next puff is coming from, it's become 2nd nature again.

Life in REOville is GOOD!

Well said!! And life IS good!
 

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Well, 5 days into the REOmizer 2.0. Along about day 2, I ordered a 2nd one (backup, you know :) ) I wish I had something further to report from my original post, but my feeling is the same. I honestly haven't fiddled with it (except to remove the top and watch it feed several times a day....because I can).

The thought occurred to me today to replace the coil, because the flavor has dropped off about 5-10%. Nah! I'll run it until it really needs replacing, that way I can compare to disposable attys (average 7-10 days).

Retrospectively, I smoked for 50 years without any "hassles" except the occasional foray into a new lighter. When I started vaping (June 2007) I was forced to do an immense amount of fiddling, to the point where it had become nearly a fulltime priority, which I hated. Hence, despite the embarrassing amount of money I had already spent on vape gear, bought my first REO (original mini).

I've since bought 3 more (another mini and 2 grands). My daily vape since 2011 has been a grand, with a simple disposable atty, and it was a huge relief to be done with all the fiddling. Over the time since then, I've switched to unflavored nic (tremedous cost savings), and bulk disposable attys (another cost savings). And with the REOmizer 2.0, I believe I've found a further cost savings, without adding ANY hassles or fiddling (I've used A7's, ERAs, REOMizer 1.0, etc., but all were "fiddly").

So here I am, finally, vaping instead of smoking, with no hassles (unless you count playing around with different wicking materials just for the fun of it.) I'm a happy, thoroughly satisfied vaper. As I've said before, this is how vaping is supposed to be. Thanks to Rob, I can focus on other things besides where my next puff is coming from, it's become 2nd nature again.

Life in REOville is GOOD!
Glad I could help my friend :)
 

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Running R2 against an identically coiled A7 - one on my grand and the A7 on my vvg with wheel turned down. Been a week. Both still going very well.

But, the A7 can be harsh at times and when i toke on them they run hot - very hot (I'm greedy - see above). I have noticed the R2 is a very cool vape and so i have been using that more. It is more suited to my work environment and the low - fat (can i say that?) profile is good, since i wear my grand on my belt.

Now - here's the main thing - ease of re coiling. R2 is so easy i asked my wife to do it and the posts are so far apart in comparison that she can do it without anything more than her glasses on! I have to redo the A7's. Under a magnifier.

R2 - $43, A7 - $18. Is it worth the price for the vaping alone?

I reckon it is. You will want a second one. Just to prove it really wasn't an accident!


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So at 8 days in, I just wasn't getting as much vapor and warmth as I had at first, and it seemed I was going through batteries faster, so I pulled the atty and checked it on the box-meter. (I know, I know, better to check on the REO, but that's where the original 1.7 reading came from, and I wanted consistency)

What started at @ 1.7 had increased to over 5 ohms!

No detectable burning of the silica wick, and not a lot (visually) of buildup on the coil. I did no dry burning during the 8 day test.

So, I built another coil (came out to 1.4), took around 5 minutes, and original vapor and flavor are back. I may try some dry burns 3 or 4 days into this one, but it's "longevity" seems to be exceptional (I vape around 4-6ml per day, so about 40ml through the first one).

I'm trying hard not to gush too much over this atty, but I'm glad I got a 2nd one before they all sold out :) I've found my goto atty, without doubt.
 

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Followup:
So at 8 days in, I just wasn't getting as much vapor and warmth as I had at first, and it seemed I was going through batteries faster, so I pulled the atty and checked it on the box-meter. (I know, I know, better to check on the REO, but that's where the original 1.7 reading came from, and I wanted consistency)

What started at @ 1.7 had increased to over 5 ohms!

No detectable burning of the silica wick, and not a lot (visually) of buildup on the coil. I did no dry burning during the 8 day test.

So, I built another coil (came out to 1.4), took around 5 minutes, and original vapor and flavor are back. I may try some dry burns 3 or 4 days into this one, but it's "longevity" seems to be exceptional (I vape around 4-6ml per day, so about 40ml through the first one).

I'm trying hard not to gush too much over this atty, but I'm glad I got a 2nd one before they all sold out :) I've found my goto atty, without doubt.

Terminal screws probably loosened up. That's my guess.

I love these attys too :)
 
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