Request for feedback on my advice for those who want to start out on "low" voltage.

[John D in CT]

I just sent an email to someone who was asking for advice on something to start out with than the POS gas station thing she currently has. I had already emailed her a lengthy explanation of many of the basics and what I would recommend to her, and she emailed me back and said she was all set to buy an eGo-T starter kit from (an actual) brick and mortar retailer not too far away.

I see a lot of people recommending eGo, kGo, and other sealed battery-type kits to people getting started, and it seems to me that a far better option, particular as an alternative to the 3.4 volt joyetech, is something like an e-Power 14650, 3.7 with replaceable switch and generic battery.

This is what I sent to her (which I believe I'm free to make public), and I'd really appreciate some feedback on it.

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You're about to make a significant mistake or two. This is not about "bells and whistles", this is about the thing that you would be putting bells and whistles onto, if you were into bells and whistles.

Please at least read the thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...866-why-does-ego-c-get-such-bad-rap-site.html In that one thread, you will learn a lot about why the eGo-T kit is not your best choice. At the very, very least, you would be far better off with an eGo-C kit with low-resistance atomizers, not the regular-resistance ones that come in that kit.

For the same price range, you should get an e-power 14650 kit from Sweet-vapes with 5 XL stainless steel 1.7 ohm single-coil cartomizers for $41.95, and if you want to see what the eGo tanks are all about, get just the eGo-C attachment (cone, base, heads/atomizers) from esmokeronline.

http://www.esmokeronline.com/Ovale-Ego-C.html

http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page...category_id=22

In fact, when I was just on Sweet vapes two minutes ago to get the URL, I ordered two more e-Power 14650's, with those 5 cartomizers. If you get a $12 Smoktech DCT tank and put one of those cartomizers in it, you will have a great, hassle-free vape. [Yes, she would have to slot the one she uses in the tank].

You said you just want something that will keep you off of cigarettes. The things I just told you to get will do that far better than a Joyetech eGo-T kit that uses 2.0 ohm atomizers. That kit would have you vaping at 5.7 watts; 3.4 v x 3.4 v / 2.0 ohms = 5.7 watts.

A Smoktech e-Power 14650 with those single-coil cartomizers would have you at 3.7v x 3.7 v / 1.7 ohms = 8.05 watts, which gets you into the range where juices actually start to taste like something. Same with the low-resistance eGo-C atomizers/heads that I am recommending.

Go ahead and do what you want, but when you've been doing this for a while, if you were to look back at this message, you will almost undoubted see that it was excellent advice.

In fact, I would really like you to take one minute and post this email into a thread in the "Ask the Experts" section, and see what they say.

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Since she didn't, I thought I would. The thread I linked to contains an in-depth discussion of what I consider to be the indisputable advantages of using a variable voltage device, but I'd rather not get into that as far as the feedback I might get from you guys on this. I'd like to keep it centered on how this advice seems to you all as far as just starting on "standard" voltage, with as solid an intro to basic vaping as possible for not too much money. [And I would also add a Cisco-spec bridgeless 306 LR drip tip setup to the list].

Thanks in advance, John D

 

[rolygate]

I guess for me the best newcomer device would be a big-batt (18650) 3.7v APV with basic cartos, plus driptips, plus an atty for testing liquids and a clearo in case they might suit (they have a weird vape/taste to me but obviously a lot of people like them). As a long-lasting vape that always works, creates massive vapor, and doesn't leak, the latest ones (CE4 type) are hard to beat.

But there are as many opinions as there are vapers

Anyway it's probable that any advice to use something physically large is a waste of time. A 14500-style eGo type is as good as anything I guess. As long as they are of good quality and come with good batteries. Otherwise I'd say a Riva because it's the right size, and is reliable. IMO you can't put too big a label on reliability, stuff going wrong drives me nuts.

 

[MickeyRat]

I guess for me the best newcomer device would be a big-batt (18650) 3.7v APV with basic cartos, plus driptips, plus an atty for testing liquids and a clearo in case they might suit (they have a weird vape/taste to me but obviously a lot of people like them). As a long-lasting vape that always works, creates massive vapor, and doesn't leak, the latest ones (CE4 type) are hard to beat.

But there are as many opinions as there are vapers

Anyway it's probable that any advice to use something physically large is a waste of time. A 14500-style eGo type is as good as anything I guess. As long as they are of good quality and come with good batteries. Otherwise I'd say a Riva because it's the right size, and is reliable. IMO you can't put too big a label on reliability, stuff going wrong drives me nuts.

You know a couple days ago. I posted a complete list with liniks of what I thought someone should get to start with an 18650. I really thought the guy would buy a Kgo to keep it simple but, he insisted he wanted to go all day on one batt and that's an 18650. My list had him going to 3 different sites. To my surprise, a few days later he posts with my hardware recommendations. I recommended Parkes vaping because that's the cheapest 18650 device I know of.

I think if more of us would do that, people would wind up getting better kits to start. I know what he wound up with was a better starter kit than any I've seen out there.