I am not saying that vaping is actually good for you.
(But wouldn't it be neat if it was.....? The ANTZs would be foaming at the mouth.Just the thought of it makes me smile.)
Same here and I bet all 21,000 active ECF members would too
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Same here and I bet all 21,000 active ECF members would too
I used to have horrible allergies, took Flonase daily and would get sinus infections alot. It was to the point that every 2 months I would go to the doc and get a steroid shot. Been vaping for two months and haven't needed the Flonase or the shot. I quit using it about two weeks in when I realized I could breath LOL. I had one little "cold" that lasted about 2 days instead of a week. This ,in Oklahoma, during big allergy, dust season and all the farmers cutting hay. I still have some slight allergies, but manageable without meds.
My daughter has had allergies since she was born, we had to take her to the hospital for a treatment once and the doc looked right at me and said to quit smoking because even the smell on my clothes can trigger an attack (it was like and asthma attack). I never smoked around her, in the car or house. However what he said stuck with me. I don't know if it is because she is a little older and growing out of it or because I don't stink anymore, but she doesn't need a daily treatment and when she does get sick, it doesn't stick around or get as serious as it did.
This is only two months in....
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My daughter has had allergies since she was born, we had to take her to the hospital for a treatment once and the doc looked right at me and said to quit smoking because even the smell on my clothes can trigger an attack (it was like and asthma attack). I never smoked around her, in the car or house. However what he said stuck with me. I don't know if it is because she is a little older and growing out of it or because I don't stink anymore, but she doesn't need a daily treatment and when she does get sick, it doesn't stick around or get as serious as it did.
This is only two months in....
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I used to get bronchitis about once a year. I don't suffer from allergies. I've had one minor cold since I started vaping and it only lasted a few days. I will be keeping track of any illnesses I get. So far it's been very easy......1.
Yep.
Also, I HIGHLY doubt vaping prevents colds, or even lessens your chances of getting colds and/or viruses.
I just NOW finally recovered from the norovirus (commonly called the stomach flu, although it has nothing to do with influenza). I got it from my mother, and unfortunately it spread to my 3 year old son
Norovirus is probably the worst infection I've had. The WORST is about 12-36 hours, but the terrible stomach aches and bathroom troubles lasted me about 8 days, with a few more days of light but still irritating issues. I've also had a head cold since I've been vaping too.
[edit: I just re-read this post, and I thought this part might confuse some people. I'm not saying I've had a head cold SINCE I've been vaping, lol, I meant that in between the time I started vaping, and now.....I have had a head cold. The head cold only lasted a few days, and was over a month ago]
I will say, however, that quitting cigarettes WILL boost your immune system, and will help lessen your chances of getting sick. THAT much is true.
So, I could definitely see how it might APPEAR that vaping lessens your chances of getting sick.....but in reality, it is quitting cigarettes that helped.
In order to understand how vaping can be beneficial you have to understand there are many different attack vectors and biological agents that can make us sick.
First inhaling is just one of the many attack vectors used by microbes. You can also ingest them, rub them in your eyes, get them in cuts/scratches, etc. Inhaling PG can only protect the inhalation attack vector.
Second as far as biological agents there are many. Bacteria, Viral, Fungal, pollens, parasites, etc. PG cannot protect against all microbial agents. So just because you get sick using PG does not mean that there are no benefits. PG has been proven to kill Staph, Strep, e-Coli and many other bacterial, viral, and fungal microbes.
My guess is that in general vaping DOES provide some protection against several different microbial agents that use inhalation as an attack vector. It of course cannot protect against everything so you will still likely get sick occasionally but maybe not as often, depending on what you get exposed to.
In addition to this anti-microbial protection, vaping will also offer one other benefit over smokers. in the throat we have tiny hair-like fibers called cilia that help sweep foreign agents up and out of our throats. When you smoke these get damaged and do not function properly. When you switch to vaping these can heal and begin working again to help protect us.
First inhaling is just one of the many attack vectors used by microbes. You can also ingest them, rub them in your eyes, get them in cuts/scratches, etc. Inhaling PG can only protect the inhalation attack vector.
Second as far as biological agents there are many. Bacteria, Viral, Fungal, pollens, parasites, etc. PG cannot protect against all microbial agents. So just because you get sick using PG does not mean that there are no benefits. PG has been proven to kill Staph, Strep, e-Coli and many other bacterial, viral, and fungal microbes.
My guess is that in general vaping DOES provide some protection against several different microbial agents that use inhalation as an attack vector. It of course cannot protect against everything so you will still likely get sick occasionally but maybe not as often, depending on what you get exposed to.
In addition to this anti-microbial protection, vaping will also offer one other benefit over smokers. in the throat we have tiny hair-like fibers called cilia that help sweep foreign agents up and out of our throats. When you smoke these get damaged and do not function properly. When you switch to vaping these can heal and begin working again to help protect us.
I still don't buy it.
Not saying you are wrong, but it FAR too early to proclaim that vaping helps lessen your chances of getting sick from bacteria, or air borne bugs via inhalation.
Sure, maybe there are have been studies and tests that show PG is effective in fighting microbes and whatnot......but what studies have been done regarding the effectiveness of PG that you INHALE, via VAPING?
As you said yourself , "My GUESS is that in general vaping DOES provide some protection".
For all we know, you could be right. I would be just as happy as any other vapor to find that out, believe me. It is just too premature though to make any statements that vaping DOES contribute in any way towards preventing and/or fighting any kind of airborne bacteria, viruses, etc.
It is definitely a neat thought, I won't argue that.....but I suspect it is just imaginative thinking =). Neither of us could say either way, unless studies are done, specifically testing PG inhaled via vaping.
Same with me, and I've thought about this a few times. I used to get 2 bad colds *every year*. I'm about 10 months into vaping and I did not get my usual winter cold, or my usual summer cold.
Lol! Love this. Very interesting topic indeed.
WHAT! 8-o Vaping can help prevent illness, get people off of cigs that are killing them, and help people live longer, happier lives? MAN! They are going to ban this stuff for sure!
I've on the tail end of a horrible sinus infection right now, first one I've had in a year (used to get them 3-5 times a year). I think it may be a result of forest fire smoke, though.
No coincidence at all. I haven't had a cold in 2.5 years thanks to vaping. Look at it this way, every time that cloud of vapor floats over your hands .... you just washed them.
Also, if by chance you took the pre FDA hearing CASAA survey you might have noticed that one of the survey questions about this.
Also, if by chance you took the pre FDA hearing CASAA survey you might have noticed that one of the survey questions about this.
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Yep.
Also, I HIGHLY doubt vaping prevents colds, or even lessens your chances of getting colds and/or viruses.
I just NOW finally recovered from the norovirus (commonly called the stomach flu, although it has nothing to do with influenza). I got it from my mother, and unfortunately it spread to my 3 year old son
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Not to be argumentative but norovirus is something completely different. It's usually spread by contact, not through air.
Of course it is "far too early to proclaim that vaping helps lessen your chances of getting sick from bacteria, or air borne bugs via inhalation". No one is arguing that.
Weren't there some studies done back years ago? Help me out here - I swear I remember reading something about them somewhere.
Ditto what Barbara said above.
Wanna hear gross? Know how norovirus is spread? People who have Noro vomit or have ......... Then do not wash their hands. You touch something they touched after being in the bathroom. You put your fingers in your mouth. VOILA!
Biggest cold/flu/sniffling/sneezing/coughing/aching/puking/pooping/snotting preventative measure? WASH your HANDS!
Public service announcement brought to you by your friendly vape nurse.
Wanna hear gross? Know how norovirus is spread? People who have Noro vomit or have ......... Then do not wash their hands. You touch something they touched after being in the bathroom. You put your fingers in your mouth. VOILA!
Biggest cold/flu/sniffling/sneezing/coughing/aching/puking/pooping/snotting preventative measure? WASH your HANDS!
Public service announcement brought to you by your friendly vape nurse.
I swear I saw a study with rats breathing PG and being protected from colds or something. A serious scientific study. I recall it was like 40 years old, but still...
Can't find it right now though, or of course, I'd cite the source...
Can't find it right now though, or of course, I'd cite the source...
Could you help convince my four year old of this lol? That being said... I've got 2 kids. They're cute and I love them. Even with the kids, I am not getting as sick. My immune system sucks. No pneumonia since I've started vaping. That was a regular thing when I smoked. Which brings me to the 5 years of dipping (not Swedish snus). I get less illnesses even in comparison to chew. I do VG and avoid pg as much as possible. Maybe it's not having the load of thousands of disgusting chemicals dragging down the immune systemDitto what Barbara said above.
Wanna hear gross? Know how norovirus is spread? People who have Noro vomit or have ......... Then do not wash their hands. You touch something they touched after being in the bathroom. You put your fingers in your mouth. VOILA!
Biggest cold/flu/sniffling/sneezing/coughing/aching/puking/pooping/snotting preventative measure? WASH your HANDS!
Public service announcement brought to you by your friendly vape nurse.
We just had a round of colds/infections in our home a couple weeks ago. It was interesting to say the least. We have two 2 year olds in daycare so we get it all. Girls brought home a cold and I got it immediately. It was odd though, I always got tons of lung congestion with colds when I smoked my swishers. Zero lung congestion this time, it was all in my sinuses and I had an extremely soar throat. I ended up going to doctor and tested negative for strep. The cold passed much faster than normal for me. Then my wife got it (never smoked, doesn't vape), she went to doc and tested positive for strep! She has never had it before. I thought to myself something must have prevented me from getting the strep part.
I used to get sick around twice per year, either two colds, or one cold and one flu.
I have been vaping for four years now and have only been sick once.
It was a cold, and it only lasted one day instead of one week.
Nobody has to try and convince me.
I have been vaping for four years now and have only been sick once.
It was a cold, and it only lasted one day instead of one week.
Nobody has to try and convince me.
I am unable to find any direct links to this study, which was done back in the 1940's ...
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