Riddle me this- (regarding temp control)

[SharonMM]

And I apologize in advance if this isn't the right place for this question. I wasn't quite sure where it fit in exactly...

But.. what I need to know is.. if all Ni200 wire is NR, then is all NR wire Ni200?

The reason I ask is because APPARENTLY the ipv4 I ordered is going to be sent to me with temp control, which requires Ni200 wire to utilize that feature. Now, I have a couple packs of NR wire here, but I'm not sure if they will be suitable for use on my device or if I will need to pick up a spool of actual Ni200 wire.

Does that make sense? I'm sort of confused by all the details too, haha.

 

[tehdarkaura]

not all NR wire is nickle -- I would suggest spending a few bucks and picking up a roll of Ni200

otherwise who knows what you toking on not to mention nickle was specifically chosen due to its fairly linear curve in resistance when the temp fluctuates

*edit* There are threads on ecf with people using silver NR wire for example.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

A: it needs to be nickel.
And unfortunately,
B: Unless you have wicked connections your ipv4 isn't shipping with temp control. Supposedly it's going to be a firmware update later on.

 

[SharonMM]

Thanks you two. Sigh, another spool it is. It just never ends!

You're probably right about it needing a firmware update. I emailed the GB host real quick to see if they could confirm but he said he'd have to get back to me. (Which seems a little shady to me.. shouldn't they be on top of these things?)

Anyhow.. I'm actually thinking of maybe pulling out of this. I don't want to be the test bunny for a first generation chip, but on the other hand, p4y has a fairly solid reputation. Plus, I really didn't want to mess around with temp control in the first place.. thats a whole new learning curve to tackle.

But on the other hand.. IF it actually works, and it delivers all it claims, it would be the deal of the year at the $60 I have invested. And if it doesn't.. well at least I'm not out much. Have spent 10 times that amount on stuff i didn't even like or use.

Sigh.. what to do, what to do?

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Thanks you two. Sigh, another spool it is. It just never ends!

You're probably right about it needing a firmware update. I emailed the GB host real quick to see if they could confirm but he said he'd have to get back to me. (Which seems a little shady to me.. shouldn't they be on top of these things?)

Anyhow.. I'm actually thinking of maybe pulling out of this. I don't want to be the test bunny for a first generation chip, but on the other hand, p4y has a fairly solid reputation. Plus, I really didn't want to mess around with temp control in the first place.. thats a whole new learning curve to tackle.

But on the other hand.. IF it actually works, and it delivers all it claims, it would be the deal of the year at the $60 I have invested. And if it doesn't.. well at least I'm not out much. Have spent 10 times that amount on stuff i didn't even like or use.

Sigh.. what to do, what to do?

You could grab a manger subtank or something like that. Those have premade nickel coils as an option. If you can build an rda though, you surely can build one with nickel.

 

[SharonMM]

Yeah I'll probably just use the attys I have. I'm just comfortable with Kanthal, but nickel probably isn't as difficult to work with as I'm thinking... hoping anyways.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Yeah I'll probably just use the attys I have. I'm just comfortable with Kanthal, but nickel probably isn't as difficult to work with as I'm thinking... hoping anyways.

Bah. You can do it. You're a Minnesotan. People like us pretty much excel in everything. lol

 

[Kidd2244]

As I understand it it has to be pure nickel wire. I'm not sure if all pure nickel is ni200. My wire just says pure nickel and it's working amazing on my vapor flask 40w. So much better flavor than with kanthal. And it is very easy to work nickel is a lot softer than kanthal. Just remember to build standard coils and not micro coils so I am told.

 

[SharonMM]

Bah. You can do it. You're a Minnesotan. People like us pretty much excel in everything. lol

Hahaha I'm not a native though. Technically a Wisconsinite. [emoji4]

 

[Portertown]

A: it needs to be nickel.
And unfortunately,
B: Unless you have wicked connections your ipv4 isn't shipping with temp control. Supposedly it's going to be a firmware update later on.

The group buy I am looking at is not going to ship until after the first of April and the firmware update is scheduled for the first of April, so it may it may come temp ready or not. My understanding is that P4U is waiting for the firmware before shipping them.

 

[Fictitious Character]

A: it needs to be nickel.
And unfortunately,
B: Unless you have wicked connections your ipv4 isn't shipping with temp control. Supposedly it's going to be a firmware update later on.

lol unless in typical pre-order fashion there is another delay and then it might come already installed.

 

[HDMontana]

I will wait for the pre installed version. That way I will also see feedback on the unit.

HD

 

[Fictitious Character]

I will wait for the pre installed version. That way I will also see feedback on the unit.

HD

That is the best plan. Watch the beta testers and decide.

 

[SharonMM]

Well the GB host got back to me and said whether the 4 will come with temp control installed all depends on the date they ship. They were originally supposed to ship on 3/5, so since they're being held up anyways, I really hope p4u goes the extra mile and just updates them all. But, who knows. I guess I'm going to be a test bunny.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Hahaha I'm not a native though. Technically a Wisconsinite. [emoji4]

As am I. It's a twofer.

 

[Portertown]

Well the GB host got back to me and said whether the 4 will come with temp control installed all depends on the date they ship. They were originally supposed to ship on 3/5, so since they're being held up anyways, I really hope p4u goes the extra mile and just updates them all. But, who knows. I guess I'm going to be a test bunny.

I just got in on a GB tonight for the IPV4 with temp control. Probably the same one.
Supposed to ship from factory around April 1st, so hopefully it will have the temp control installed. If not, it should not be a problem to do the upgrade when the firmware is available to download.

 

[HDMontana]

I just got in on a GB tonight for the IPV4 with temp control. Probably the same one.
Supposed to ship from factory around April 1st, so hopefully it will have the temp control installed. If not, it should not be a problem to do the upgrade when the firmware is available to download.

If they would released this with TP already installed, I would be all over it. Maybe they will. Like when they upped the wattage on the IPV3 at release instead of a firmware upgrade. Later they did do an available upgrade to the 165 watts.

HD

 

[ThunderDan]

For $62 and some change I figured I'd take a chance on it. Wanted a 2nd DNA 40 device, maybe I won't need it though.

 

[HDMontana]

For $62 and some change I figured I'd take a chance on it. Wanted a 2nd DNA 40 device, maybe I won't need it though.

Do you mind me asking where you got it at that price? The least expensive I have seen it's a couple of pre orders for $79.00.

HD

 

[qorax]

And I apologize in advance if this isn't the right place for this question. I wasn't quite sure where it fit in exactly...

But.. what I need to know is.. if all Ni200 wire is NR, then is all NR wire Ni200?

The reason I ask is because APPARENTLY the ipv4 I ordered is going to be sent to me with temp control, which requires Ni200 wire to utilize that feature. Now, I have a couple packs of NR wire here, but I'm not sure if they will be suitable for use on my device or if I will need to pick up a spool of actual Ni200 wire.

Does that make sense? I'm sort of confused by all the details too, haha.

The erstwhile "NR Wire/s" had only two variants ~ Nickel or Silver. And unless you purchased 'silver wire' separately the chances are that the ones which came with your RBA (e.g. Diver v2, Sophia etc.) are Nickel.

I too have a boatload of those 'supplied' NR wires, mostly in 32AWG ~ and I'm using them for my TP builds successfully. Yes they'd be off a li'l vis-a-vis Ni200, but it works perfectly under TP! Silver won't.