RM2 and Smoktech 510 - what is the vaping difference?

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jcalis1394

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Hi all,

I am a Reo Grand owner and having just read through 35 pages of details on the ins and outs of how to use a RM2 I am wondering - why? Is the vaping experience much different from vaping a Smoktech 510 cartomizer?

Thank you!
It can't even be compared. RBAs (rebuildables) and cartomizers are different leagues, worlds apart. With an RBA (such as the RM2 which is by far the best I've tried) you have total control of how you build your coils, what wick goes into it, what techniques, airhole, shape, volume, everything is under your control. The flavor, vapor production and throat hit is unpaired with anything else, be it dct tanks, clearomizers, etc. And in this case, you are basically dripping. Dripping gives you the cleanest, best vape you can get. A cartomizer is decent and all, but it simply cannot be compared to an RBA.
 

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Ok sorry, you've been vaping a while and you HAVE a reo, and you're asking what's the difference between a cart and a RBA. Difference is quite a bit. You're best bet is to go to the reo lounge and ask the genuinely nice and helpful folk over there (unlike me(had a bad day with kids doing my nut in)). Didn't mean to be a d@@@ but thought you just might be joking.
 
It can't even be compared. RBAs (rebuildables) and cartomizers are different leagues, worlds apart. With an RBA (such as the RM2 which is by far the best I've tried) you have total control of how you build your coils, what wick goes into it, what techniques, airhole, shape, volume, everything is under your control. The flavor, vapor production and throat hit is unpaired with anything else, be it dct tanks, clearomizers, etc. And in this case, you are basically dripping. Dripping gives you the cleanest, best vape you can get. A cartomizer is decent and all, but it simply cannot be compared to an RBA.

Thank you for the reply. This is what I was imagining but I wanted to hear from some Reo folks that have first hand experience. I have been away from vaping for a while and am new to the RM2 and all.
 
Ok sorry, you've been vaping a while and you HAVE a reo, and you're asking what's the difference between a cart and a RBA. Difference is quite a bit. You're best bet is to go to the reo lounge and ask the genuinely nice and helpful folk over there (unlike me(had a bad day with kids doing my nut in)). Didn't mean to be a d@@@ but thought you just might be joking.

No worries. I don't doubt it may have sounded like a joke.
 

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Steve, I thought cartos were all I'd ever use and thought all these RBA people were freaks.

Then I got one and the rest is history. There hasn't been a carto on my REO since I got an RBA. But I have gotten more RBAs. The RM2 is the best available and it is very simple to build.

It produces a vape that is equal to and seasonally better than a $200 RBA I have.

Very easy build check my photo tutorial up in the stickies. ^^

You can kill this thing bro :)
 

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odysseysteve, those of us who have been using rebuildables for awhile (and who all have used different cartos, attys....both 510s and 306s) are so TOTALLY sold on the rebuildables for the most part, that your question really sorta DID seem like a joke. Here's the deal.....rebuildables in general, and the RM2 in particular, are just the cat's meow. They are really better (in the opinion of a HUGE majority of REO users) in every way. For one thing, the vape is just stellar: lots and lots of vapor and great fresh-dripped taste). For another thing, once you get coil building down (piece of cake....very, very easy) and get some wire and wicking material (cheap, cheap, cheap,) you can build a coil for pennies, versus $5-$20 for an atomizer, or even $1-$2 for a cartomizer.

I'm a "senior" here in several ways (age as well as long-time Reonaut) and I find the RM2 to be outstanding. Coil building is not only cheap and easy, but it's FUN. And....it gives me the best vape I've EVER had, and I've been vaping for over three years. You owe it to yourself to give it a try....I don't think you could go wrong. Besides, if you don't like it (not happening) you can sell it to one of us.

If you read around this forum for awhile, you'll hear that the REO Grand + RM2 is THE set-up to have.

Jan
 
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steve, here's another possible "selling point" for you: I noticed from some of your other posts that you are into organic juices. Many of us use organic cotton as the wick in our RM2s, and it's amazing. If you like knowing what's in your juice, you will probably like knowing what's in your atty as well. I don't know what the filler in a Smoktech 510 cartomizer is, but it isn't organic cotton. Know what I mean?

Again, with rebuildables you get a clean, clear, fresh-dripped taste with your juices that (IMHO) you just can never get with a cartomizer of any brand. An RM2 on a Grand will take your vaping to a new level. Period.

Jan
 
steve, here's another possible "selling point" for you: I noticed from some of your other posts that you are into organic juices. Many of us use organic cotton as the wick in our RM2s, and it's amazing. If you like knowing what's in your juice, you will probably like knowing what's in your atty as well. I don't know what the filler in a Smoktech 510 cartomizer is, but it isn't organic cotton. Know what I mean?

Again, with rebuildables you get a clean, clear, fresh-dripped taste with your juices that (IMHO) you just can never get with a cartomizer of any brand. An RM2 on a Grand will take your vaping to a new level. Period.

Jan

Good call, Jan! I am on board with the RM2 idea now and organic cotton would be just the thing for me. And you are correct, I have no idea what the filler in the Smokteck 510 cartomizer would be but I seriously doubt it is organic cotton.

Where do you get your organic cotton?

I am ready and pumped to take my vaping to a new level.

Thank you!

-Steve
 

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I get mine from Walgreens.....It's Studio 35 Beauty brand. Organic cotton balls. One cotton ball will make probably a hundred wicks. Cheap. Others use sterile cotton from CVS. I've also used organic 100% cotton yarn, but I don't like it nearly as well. I do like (and use) 100% cotton (not organic, but all cotton) embroidery thread. Sometimes it tastes a little "cotton-y" until I boil it.

EDIT: There are just a million possibilities. There are different kinds of wire and different gauges of wire and all kinds of wicking materials. We've all experimented with a lot of them....so when you really get ready to do this, you'll be bombarded with suggestions. (Brace yourself...we're an enthusiastic group!) There are many threads that talk about all this, and I'll go dig up a few.

If you haven't used a rebuildable before, super-X-drifter's videos are MUSTS. He breaks it all down about how to make a coil and how to wick it. That's the place to start. Actually, ordering an RM2 from www.reosmods.com is the place to start. Although we all call them RM2s, they're listed on the reos mods site as "Reomizer 2.0".....that's the one to get. While you are there, you can order a little sample of 28 gauge and 30 gauge Kanthal A1 resistance wire. Once you get that, buy you some organic cotton balls, a tiny little screwdriver set from a DollarTree store for a buck, and wait. You'll be in business before you know it. It'll change your whole vaping experience. PM me if you have any questions you can't find the answers to. Sometimes it's easier to talk to one person.....
 
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I get mine from Walgreens.....It's Studio 35 Beauty brand. Organic cotton balls. One cotton ball will make probably a hundred wicks. Cheap. Others use sterile cotton from CVS. I've also used organic 100% cotton yarn, but I don't like it nearly as well. I do like (and use) 100% cotton (not organic, but all cotton) embroidery thread. Sometimes it tastes a little "cotton-y" until I boil it.

EDIT: There are just a million possibilities. There are different kinds of wire and different gauges of wire and all kinds of wicking materials. We've all experimented with a lot of them....so when you really get ready to do this, you'll be bombarded with suggestions. (Brace yourself...we're an enthusiastic group!) There are many threads that talk about all this, and I'll go dig up a few.

If you haven't used a rebuildable before, super-X-drifter's videos are MUSTS. He breaks it all down about how to make a coil and how to wick it. That's the place to start. Actually, ordering an RM2 from reosmods.com is the place to start. Although we all call them RM2s, they're listed on the reos mods site as "Reomizer 2.0".....that's the one to get. While you are there, you can order a little sample of 28 gauge and 30 gauge Kanthal A1 resistance wire. Once you get that, buy you some organic cotton balls, a tiny little screwdriver set from a DollarTree store for a buck, and wait. You'll be in business before you know it. It'll change your whole vaping experience. PM me if you have any questions you can't find the answers to. Sometimes it's easier to talk to one person.....

Thank you for the advise and the offer to assist further. It is much appreciated. I am sure I will be back with a load of questions once I get the RM2 and tackle the building process.

I did view super-X-drifter's tutorials and they are excellent.

I guess I do have one additional question now - how do you test the ohm rating of a coil you've made?

I vape Guilty Pleasures Organics juice and while it is clean and very tasty, it can burn if vaped in too hot a devise.

Thanks again and vape on!
 

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Many of us have these little ohm meters that we use: Meters : Black Cartomizer and Atomizer Ohm Meter BUT they're sold out right now. And....lately they've been pretty hard to catch in stock. Keep watching. Maybe click on "Notify Me" and you'll get an email. You'll have to act FAST if you get notified.....

And a lot of our people use their "other" mods (Provari, for instance) that have ohm read-outs to tell. There's also a thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/446263-micro-coils-ohms-description.html This will tell you how many wraps around a (screwdriver, toothpick, drill bit, etc.) thingy you need for each gauge of wire to reach the ohms you're shooting for.

If you have a multi-meter, you can use that to check ohms. The resistance of the wire is measured in ohms per inch, and you can get pretty good at gauging what the ohms will be by how many wraps you use. It's easier to DO than it is to explain.

Here's what I do: I take a tiny little screwdriver or a blunt syringe needle. I cut a piece of wire about three inches long, then I hold about an inch of it with my thumb and wrap about 8 wraps around the end of a little 1/16" screwdriver. That gives me about 1.2 ohms of the 28 gauge wire, or 1.6 or so ohms on the 30 gauge wire. You'll find your sweet spot then be able to duplicate it every time by using the same screwdriver (drill bit, syringe needle, toothpick, etc.) and the same gauge wire. Then I install it (legs in the holes, screw them in) and put a wick through it. The wicks: you take a tiny piece of cotton, roll it between two fingers into a "string" then thread it through the coil.

Piece of cake. Depending on your juice, you may have to re-wick every few days, but the coil should last you awhile. When your wick gets gunky, you pull it out, dry burn the coil, and re-wick it.
 
Many of us have these little ohm meters that we use: Meters : Black Cartomizer and Atomizer Ohm Meter BUT they're sold out right now. And....lately they've been pretty hard to catch in stock. Keep watching. Maybe click on "Notify Me" and you'll get an email. You'll have to act FAST if you get notified.....

And a lot of our people use their "other" mods (Provari, for instance) that have ohm read-outs to tell. There's also a thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/446263-micro-coils-ohms-description.html This will tell you how many wraps around a (screwdriver, toothpick, drill bit, etc.) thingy you need for each gauge of wire to reach the ohms you're shooting for.

If you have a multi-meter, you can use that to check ohms. The resistance of the wire is measured in ohms per inch, and you can get pretty good at gauging what the ohms will be by how many wraps you use. It's easier to DO than it is to explain.

Here's what I do: I take a tiny little screwdriver or a blunt syringe needle. I cut a piece of wire about three inches long, then I hold about an inch of it with my thumb and wrap about 8 wraps around the end of a little 1/16" screwdriver. That gives me about 1.2 ohms of the 28 gauge wire, or 1.6 or so ohms on the 30 gauge wire. You'll find your sweet spot then be able to duplicate it every time by using the same screwdriver (drill bit, syringe needle, toothpick, etc.) and the same gauge wire. Then I install it (legs in the holes, screw them in) and put a wick through it. The wicks: you take a tiny piece of cotton, roll it between two fingers into a "string" then thread it through the coil.

Piece of cake. Depending on your juice, you may have to re-wick every few days, but the coil should last you awhile. When your wick gets gunky, you pull it out, dry burn the coil, and re-wick it.

Thank you again! I just signed up on the "notify me" for the ohm meter. I can't wait to try the RM2 now. Quite the hobby we have here, huh?
 

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Steve, I thought cartos were all I'd ever use and thought all these RBA people were freaks.

Then I got one and the rest is history.

HA! That sums it up!

And once you get the hang of it you can wrap a coil and cut a wick faster than you can fill up a cart. I used to slowly fill up carts in several stages and let them sit all night. It was tedious compared to making a wire/wick build; and with the wire/wick build you only have to remove the old wick and dry burn the coil (if you want) and slide in a new wick in for awhile before you have to wrap another wire.

If I can do it; anyone can...

Norman
 

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Hi Steve. Good decision, you won't regret. I started off with a Janty stick. When I got a Kanger Protank, thought I was in vaping heaven. Then someone in the forum with the handle ForeverTwoWheels mentioned Reo/Reomizer, which led here. Just the other day took a Protank vape. The problem...there's no turning back from Reo/Reomizer. Enjoy. Update us on your experience.
 
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