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While I've outgrown MBV, their root beer is pretty spot on. It won't have the carbonated fizz of real soda, though. Not sure how or even if that can be recreated in an e-cig flavor. MBV's root beer (NOT root beer float) is going to taste exactly like those old root beer barrel candies, and not actual root beer. Kinda heavy on the anise at first, but let it steep a week.

Whoever said it is a plastic tank cracker, it most certainly is. Invest in polypropylene or a glass tank.
 

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The mix ratio depends on the strength of your nicotine base. Higher concentrations have to be diluted down further than lower so you get the right mg per ml ratio.

The 15% mentioned above would be 15% flavor. The remaining 85% would be your Nicotine, VG, and PG.

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Yeah I have a 18 mg nic at 50/50 pg/vg nonflavored. I realize if I remove 15% and add 15% flavor I would be at approx 15mg 50/50 pg/vg ratio. Although the pg/vg would be less or more like 42/42/16 of pg/vg/(water/alcohol) or whatever the flavor base is.

That is if I am thinking correctly about this. Have never done DIY and need to read more on the subject if I go that route...but that is my understanding. Am I correct on that?
 

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I had some MtBaker Root Beer Float - and to me it tasted just like root beer.
I will say it STUNK UP THE ROOM, and personally, I couldn't vape it much - I piffed it already...
But if you want to try vaping root beer, it seemed to hit the flavor right on!

What does I piffed it mean? You threw it away? Was it because of smell in the room?
 

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The issue with the Zatarain's Extract is what's in it :). I'm not sure how safe Sulfiting Agents would be to inhale. The Watkins Concentrate doesn't have Sulfiting Agents or dyes (FD&C Red & Lake).

There's Sulfate in Albuterol Inhalers, but that's a completely different compound, which is safer for inhalation. In Canada there's a study documenting the dangers of Sulfiting Agents in Food & Pharmaceuticals, which would make be a bit weary on actually inhaling anything with them in it.

Watkins is PG & Natural and Artificial Flavor. No Alcohol (which Zatarain's has in it as a near-primary ingredient) and no other chemicals.

That's incredible, Tactical. Not sure if I am brave enough to try it yet, but while you're at it maybe you should research Zataran's root beer concentrate. I've made my own root beer (beverage) with it and it was pretty good. If you're not in the South, you can still order it pretty cheap online.
 

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I have tried a lot of RB juice and M&P is one of my favorites. Next time I order some Malty, I am going to try BWB Root Beer, too.

I went thru a 15ml. bottle of Mom and Pop's Rootbeer Float pretty quickly. I am a hardcore A&W root beer drinker and their version is pretty good. I won't hesitate to order that one again..
I do like to wander thru some liked reviews of rootbeer's , so I may try some others recommended here also.
 

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The issue with the Zatarain's Extract is what's in it :). I'm not sure how safe Sulfiting Agents would be to inhale. The Watkins Concentrate doesn't have Sulfiting Agents or dyes (FD&C Red & Lake).

There's Sulfate in Albuterol Inhalers, but that's a completely different compound, which is safer for inhalation. In Canada there's a study documenting the dangers of Sulfiting Agents in Food & Pharmaceuticals, which would make be a bit weary on actually inhaling anything with them in it.

Watkins is PG & Natural and Artificial Flavor. No Alcohol (which Zatarain's has in it as a near-primary ingredient) and no other chemicals.

Yeah I think that's why I need to do more research before I DIY. I'll probably do it here soon just need more time to research what I myself and others consider "safe".
 

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When it comes to DIY, stick to the basics for ingredients until you're comfortable. If it has PG, VG (or Glycerin), Alcohol and Artificial & Nat. Flavors, you should be fine (and it can be any combination of those). When it comes to titrates, sulfates, sulfites, artificial coloring that is added on top of whatever color the flavoring may be and various other chemicals, step away.

Diacetyl is also a big no-no in DIY. If the flavor has it, or the vendor doesn't tell you there's none in it, I wouldn't buy it (and I won't buy it). You can read up on why at the link below.

https://www.osha.gov/dsg/guidance/diacetyl-guidance.html

In short, this is the part you want to pay attention to:

A number of employees exposed to FFCD have developed serious respiratory illness presenting with persistent dry cough, wheezing, shortness of breath upon exertion, and fixed airways obstruction on spirometry. Several employees have been diagnosed with asthma or bronchiolitis obliterans. Bronchiolitis obliterans occurs when small airways become inflamed and scarred, resulting in the thickening and narrowing of the airways. The symptoms and airways obstruction range from mild to severe, and do not improve when the employee goes home or on vacation. Because bronchiolitis obliterans is a rare disease, some employees may have been potentially misdiagnosed with asthma, bronchitis, emphysema, and/or pneumonia. The loss of pulmonary function associated with severe bronchiolitis obliterans is permanent and some patients have been placed on lung transplant waiting lists.


Definitely *not* something you want to be inhaling.
 

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Just an update on the Watkins Root Beer Concentrate, it's steeping extremely well and it tastes fantastic. I'm looking for a nice sweet vanilla to add to it, but it's pretty good on it's own. Now If I could just figure out how to get the carbonation bubbles to vape with me, I think it'd be the next best thing; right up there with having an ice cold mug and some house-made root beer.
 

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Well you gave me the courage to do my first DIY project. Next time I'm at grocery store I'll pick up some Watkins Root Beer flavor and just add it to my unflavored 50/50 pg/vg mix. I figure if all I'm doing is adding flavor I can't screw that up too much ;) I never was a very good cook. Maybe eventually I'll get the courage to do a real DIY project.

I was on 30 mg of nic...but now somewhere between 24 and 18 depending on what flavor I'm using. Would you suggest me starting with 100 mg or 200 mg nic base for DIY? Obviously you get more bang for buck the higher you go but want to stick in a safe but economical range. Thoughts?
 

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Just an update on the Watkins Root Beer Concentrate, it's steeping extremely well and it tastes fantastic. I'm looking for a nice sweet vanilla to add to it, but it's pretty good on it's own. Now If I could just figure out how to get the carbonation bubbles to vape with me, I think it'd be the next best thing; right up there with having an ice cold mug and some house-made root beer.

I've heard that adding a cola could work. Use in SMALL percentages as it's strong and will easily turn into a Coke/Pepsi type flavor. As well, in the DIY sub-section, someone also mentioned using a Champagne to get the bubbly affect. Something to think about...
 

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I couldn't find any Watkins' root beer flavor. I found some Tone's. The only thing that looked fishy on the label was that it said it contained phosphates. Have to check spelling if that is incorrect. It seemed all of the flavors had this even the Watkins' vanilla. I added it to some unflavored 50/50 pg/vg. It seems awfully dark. I lot darker than other juices I've used. Probably should look online for non dye one. I guess I don't see the point for dye's in this process.
 

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I'm a big fan of Root Beer e-juice. I've found 2 that I enjoy
Double Barrel | Aged Vanilla Root Beer flavored E-Liquid
AN&O Root Beer 100% VG - eLiquid Flavor - ECBlend <- all VG, so it's THICK, yummy, but thick.

I also finally got a DIY root beer working for me recently, WooHoo!

I tried one vendor's creme soda and it was not good at all.

Oh, yeah, the ecblends AN&O Root Beer is a real tank melter. It turned a ViviNova all cloudy overnight.


Could you share your DIY root beer recipe (please) :)
 

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If you're just starting out, I wouldn't recommend the 100 mg (i.e. 10%) nicotine base unless you have gloves, syringes, towels (that you can ruin and wash on their own) etc. The 100 mg is potent and is the highest concentration that vendors offer right now (not that anyone really needs anything higher).

Start with 36-48 mg (3.6% or 4.8%) and get accustom to DIY. The 100 mg stuff, you're going to *need* to be careful with. The other, not so much. I've got 36-48 on my skin and just wiped off with a towel. The 100 mg, you need to wash your hands immediately and make sure you don't cross-contaminate your syringes.

I'm not saying this to scare you away from it, but 100 mg is extremely potent. If you're comfortable mixing chemicals already, go for it, but if you're not, go with a lower concentration for now and when you're ready, scale up (i.e. 36 -> 48 -> X).


Well you gave me the courage to do my first DIY project. Next time I'm at grocery store I'll pick up some Watkins Root Beer flavor and just add it to my unflavored 50/50 pg/vg mix. I figure if all I'm doing is adding flavor I can't screw that up too much ;) I never was a very good cook. Maybe eventually I'll get the courage to do a real DIY project.

I was on 30 mg of nic...but now somewhere between 24 and 18 depending on what flavor I'm using. Would you suggest me starting with 100 mg or 200 mg nic base for DIY? Obviously you get more bang for buck the higher you go but want to stick in a safe but economical range. Thoughts?
 

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I've heard that adding a cola could work. Use in SMALL percentages as it's strong and will easily turn into a Coke/Pepsi type flavor. As well, in the DIY sub-section, someone also mentioned using a Champagne to get the bubbly affect. Something to think about...

I'll have to try the Champagne. I have some Cola from LorAnn and it's actually pretty good at 15%, so I may do a little mix and matching. These are relatively cheap, so I don't mind screwing them up :).

On a side-note, to those looking for flavoring, try a craft store. I hit one in the town over (about a 15 minute drive) and they carried about 60 flavors from LorAnn. Some oils, but most flavors, including ones that Wizard Labs tends to be out of all the time. I think they were $2.89 here. A little more pricey, but considering I was already in town, could get them right then and didn't have to pay shipping, I feel I broke even.
 

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I just tasted my root beer. It's good for about the 1st 10-15 puffs and then burns atomizer. Gone through 2 atomizers with only 40 puffs and I just can't stand the burnt taste. Did I put too much flavor in it. As stated this is by far the darkest juice I've ever seen. Was it the dye's in the Tone's brand of root beer flavoring? Or what is causing it to be so dark and leave burnt taste after only a few puffs on new atomizer?

Should I add some distilled water. I only made 3ml put about 15% or so flavor. I had a spare flat needle filler bottle that I used instead of risking my entire bottle of unflavored juice.
 
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