RTA with MASSIVE airflow, please?

[FinchX]

You should really try to figure out what's going on to make you dislike the UD Zephyrus with the build deck, as far as I am aware that has the most airflow of ANY tank system available. You said it got way too hot to enjoy, did that happen very fast or sort of slowly as you were vaping? With the size of that deck and the chimney style is it possible the coils shorted to the outside of the chimney?

I've run into the coils touching or being too close to the chimney or enclosure section, whatever, with other RTAs and RBAs so I take a lot of precaution.

I tried the airflow on all four of the tanks I bought prior to even building on them to get an idea of how they should hit with a proper build not blocking the airflow and honestly, the Goliath V2, Bellus, and Cthulu V2 all had much better airflow than my Zephyrus.

Honestly the Goliath V2 and Bellus offer the most out of these 4.

Like I've said though, I'm struggling to wrap my mind around none even offering the airflow of like the Crown tank, for example. I'm not expecting rda level airflow, but the equivalent of the Crown would be most acceptable. Now my Triforce tanks, yeah that's a subohm tank I honestly don't need the airflow of, those literally have airflow that rivals my Kennedy competition...lol. Just odd to me that quite a few subohm clearos are beating these out in airflow.

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[FinchX]

Depends on how you line up your base and tank on the Aromamizer. Set it so all 4 airholes are crossing the deck at diagonals, and its quite airy. Also, vertical builds really open it up compared to horizontal.

Those slots on the Bellus are pretty darn big if you take off the afc ring. Try putting your coils just above them so the air hits them from beneath.

I did basically back to back comparisons on the Bellus with and without the AFC ring and much to my surprise it really didn't make any noticeable or significant difference. Was very strange I really thought the way it's set up I'd at least see a difference worth mentioning.

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[roxynoodle]

That surprises me. I guess you could open up those holes on the Bellus and turn it into the world's airiest RTA.

 

[FinchX]

That surprises me. I guess you could open up those holes on the Bellus and turn it into the world's airiest RTA.

LOL.... from what I've experienced so far that's basically what I'm looking for

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[FinchX]

Replacement Seals ARE available.
http://sweet-vapes.com/tfv4-base-glass-or-o-ring.html

Upper/lower set $ .95

And..................the Drip tip is 510 and several of my Tips interchange fine.

Just keeping things straight.


I have to say - I have never bought Smok just from their early QC issues that seem to exist to this day.
I did win a X Cube II and TFV4. Knowing of the Glass sticking to the Seal issue(Factory assembly problem) I immediately submersed the tank in a Coffee cup full of HOT water after removing the Top section.
3 minutes later I took the Tank in hand and twist/lifted the glass section off with -0- o-ring damage. Seems dry assembly caused some units to stick together and some were damaged upon separation, but heating worked well for me.

We can always point out things that may cause problems. We can also work to find solutions.
Personally, if the price is right, I think a TFV4 is well worth investigating. No doubt most of the money could be made back in a secondary sale if not satisfied.
Dodging a possible solution to a search may lead to never knowing or missing out.

Yea, it is Smok, but no it is not a Mod. Just a tank with some very innovative features.
With the Tri-coil it is a cloud monster.
With the Quad-coil it is a Flavor chasing Monster.
Single RTA Base
Dual RTA Base
Clapton RTA Base - (2) air flow choices included

Very large juice channels on the single and Dual - don't have the Clapton yet.

Bargains to be had ordering from China may make it more interesting.



I also love using the Orchid RTA's
Great(For me) Air flow
Excellent wicking
YMMV

I've looked through the various RBA heads for the TFV4 and not really a fan. Honestly the two post design on the Bellus and Goliath V2 are about as troublesome as I'm willing to get. The Cthulu V2 offers two build decks, one like the Smok and the other in the Velocity style rda.

I just don't see why it's so hard to find a true RTA with the airflow of most subohm tanks.

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[Froth]

I've run into the coils touching or being too close to the chimney or enclosure section, whatever, with other RTAs and RBAs so I take a lot of precaution.

I tried the airflow on all four of the tanks I bought prior to even building on them to get an idea of how they should hit with a proper build not blocking the airflow and honestly, the Goliath V2, Bellus, and Cthulu V2 all had much better airflow than my Zephyrus.

Honestly the Goliath V2 and Bellus offer the most out of these 4.

Like I've said though, I'm struggling to wrap my mind around none even offering the airflow of like the Crown tank, for example. I'm not expecting rda level airflow, but the equivalent of the Crown would be most acceptable. Now my Triforce tanks, yeah that's a subohm tank I honestly don't need the airflow of, those literally have airflow that rivals my Kennedy competition...lol. Just odd to me that quite a few subohm clearos are beating these out in airflow.

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That's strange that the Zephyrus lacks airflow in practice, whoever designed it must not have bothered with fluid dynamics or whatever, there has to be a restriction and a big one somewhere because the deck has 4x 3mm air holes in it, which by all rights should be nearly equivalent to the airflow of the Kennedy comp deck(My brain says it should!). Honestly I've not used it, just analyzed from pictures.

I've got every version of the 22mm Kennedy here and I use them over everything else I've bought so I understand the airflow you're looking for. Personally I've really only bought one tank in the past year, an original Lemo which I would like if it had pretty much double the airflow. I have toyed with the idea of buying a Crown and using the RBA deck for a while now, just never pulled the trigger. A friend of mine recently got the CCI Triforce and the airflow wide open is truly impressive, I can full lung inhale with it easily but I hate how tall it is and how huge the replacement coils have to be.

I feel your pain in this, I suppose.

 

[FinchX]

That's strange that the Zephyrus lacks airflow in practice, whoever designed it must not have bothered with fluid dynamics or whatever, there has to be a restriction and a big one somewhere because the deck has 4x 3mm air holes in it, which by all rights should be nearly equivalent to the airflow of the Kennedy comp deck(My brain says it should!). Honestly I've not used it, just analyzed from pictures.

I've got every version of the 22mm Kennedy here and I use them over everything else I've bought so I understand the airflow you're looking for. Personally I've really only bought one tank in the past year, an original Lemo which I would like if it had pretty much double the airflow. I have toyed with the idea of buying a Crown and using the RBA deck for a while now, just never pulled the trigger. A friend of mine recently got the CCI Triforce and the airflow wide open is truly impressive, I can full lung inhale with it easily but I hate how tall it is and how huge the replacement coils have to be.

I feel your pain in this, I suppose.

That's just it, I'm NOT expecting RDA level airflow. Nor airflow like the Triforce. Just something in the same vicinity of the Crown lol.

I really don't know what to say about the Zephyrus, I actually agree with you that looking at it, your mind kind of wonders what went wrong and where. I usually tend to trust CERTAIN opinions on CERTAIN topics from YouTube and even Grimm complimented the airflow of the Zephyrus, so I'm not sure.. maybe mines somehow defective? LOL

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[FinchX]

I wouldn't recommend the TVF 4.
I have one.
The hassles aren't worth the airflow.
I'm in the same boat as you, looking for a true rebuildable tank that has serious airflow.

What exactly are the hassles you speak of? Most people really rave about that tank with the exception of a few talking about quality control and whatnot...

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[FinchX]

That's just it, I'm NOT expecting RDA level airflow. Nor airflow like the Triforce. Just something in the same vicinity of the Crown lol.

I really don't know what to say about the Zephyrus, I actually agree with you that looking at it, your mind kind of wonders what went wrong and where. I usually tend to trust CERTAIN opinions on CERTAIN topics from YouTube and even Grimm complimented the airflow of the Zephyrus, so I'm not sure.. maybe mines somehow defective? LOL

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Ok... I got a strange one for you... ANY tank I get, I disassemble and wash. Takes care of any unwanted machine oil, other manufacturer garbage, and I get a good idea of the tank design. There is NO particular way the RBA base must sit in the base of the Zephyrus. I mean literally there's no specific positioning, it doesn't (can't) matter.

There's currently NO build on the tank, open deck. I grabbed it off the shelf, took a pull, NO airflow just as before.

So out of curiosity, I took it all apart testing each piece so I could say "Yeah it's this or that which restricts it.." couldn't find ANYTHING that would be restricting it. I put it back together, still no build on it of course, took a pull and it's wide open. Like if I can manage to do a build that doesn't restrict this very much? Yeah it'll be perfect.

I have absolutely no idea what happened. When I first got it, prior to taking it apart and cleaning it, it was just as restrictive as it was when I first took it off the shelf a moment ago, and if you've seen the tank you know you can't exactly put it together wrobg, so... I'm at a loss for explanation here.. LOL!!

Though I will be attempting a build on it tonight, I'm about to have to leave the house, and I'll report back when I try it.

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[Rizzyking]

Yeah what hassles with the tfv4? I've only had mine a couple of days so no comment on longevity but in day to day use its been flawless rba deck is a dream to work with and wick and early ones may have had problems with glass and oring but mine was fine. As of right now I have three more on order and will be passing forward my lemo's and subtanks as they don't compare to the TFV. Only bad thing I can think of is it goes through liquid like it's drinking it but as I diy not really an issue for me.

 

[crxess]

There's currently NO build on the tank, open deck. I grabbed it off the shelf, took a pull, NO airflow just as before.

Break it down in simple steps.

Base/Deck/Deck cap(chimney base) try to draw air

Is the original 4 air hole RBA Deck?

The Zephyrus Should be wide open at that point.
Chimney is a bit restricted, but not much.
Not to confident in the included drip tip.

 

[NancyR]

It is possible that you are just not someone who will ever like a tank. Many of us don't, tho there are different reasons.

 

[Rizzyking]

There is no perfect tank and never will be because we all like and dislike certain aspects, best you can do is buy the one that ticks most of your boxes.

 

[MIK3Y_D]

Monster v3. Its basically a drilled out kayfun with massive airflow, at least v1 and v2 were. V3 is their own take on a kayfun based on what they found by drilling them out. Super sexy too.

 

[Bad Ninja]

What exactly are the hassles you speak of? Most people really rave about that tank with the exception of a few talking about quality control and whatnot...

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1. It's made primarily for prebuilt coils with an RBA deck as an afterthought.
You pay extra.

2. Proprietary O-rings, prone to tear, no replacements in package.

3. Top cap has a fixed, non standard drip tip.

4. Top cap doesn't come off, it swings to the side.

5. Smok isn't known for it's professionalism, or quality control.

 

[crxess]

3. Top cap has a fixed, non standard drip tip.

3) Wonder why they sell these?

 

[Bad Ninja]

3) Wonder why they sell these?

Ha!
Your right, it does.
Mine was stuck like a lug nut.
Siezed with ripped o rings right out of the box. I thought it was fixed.
After your post I used pliers and it came off.
Excellent Smok quality control. ( see number 5)

 

[crxess]

Ha!
Your right, it does.
Mine was stuck like a lug nut.
Siezed with ripped o rings right out of the box. I thought it was fixed.
After your post I used pliers and it came off.
Excellent Smok quality control. ( see number 5)

Either you got a end of shift, last day tank or I got an R&D Piece

Mine is flawless.

Still concerned the X Cube II may flake out though

 

[Bad Ninja]

Either you got a end of shift, last day tank or I got an R&D Piece

Mine is flawless.

Still concerned the X Cube II may flake out though

Same here with the X Cube II. I wasn't impressed. Still haven't paid for the TC upgrade.

 

[Paul lamb]

Not sure on air flow but the following have RDA sized decks

Mutation RTA
Aromamiser Rdta
Chthulu v2