Rubber tip cartomizers?

[mcl5000]

Hey all - I just got some rubber tip cartomizers and they really aren't performing the way I was hoping. It seems like they take forever to heat up. I'll give a 10 second drag and get basically nothing, but then the next drag is pretty good.

Is this how these work? The KR808 cartomizers heat up right away.

I've also read that these things "roar", and I'm hardly getting any noise out of them. Not that I care, but I'm wondering if I just have a bad batch or something?

Thanks.

 

[SalientOrange]

I bought a box of soft tip cartos (510) to use with my Little Chuck. Mine are performing exactly as you describe. Even when they do begin to hit "well", the vapor production and flavor pale in comparison to an atty. I expected a drop-off...just not such a substantial one.

As far as the noise goes, I am getting the gurgle that I expected, having heard a friend use a carto on several occasions.

 

[mwa102464]

you guys need to try the 510 LR

 

[mcl5000]

you guys need to try the 510 LR

I've been using LR 510s since they came out. We're talking about cartomizers.


Are the hard tip 510 cartomizers any better? I bought these because everybody said they were better...

 

[SalientOrange]

you guys need to try the 510 LR

First of all, every time I see your avatar I become insanely envious.

There's a box of LR 510 cartomizers about 5 feet away from me on my friend/coworker's desk...I'll try to weasel one out of her.

 

[SalientOrange]

I've been using LR 510s since they came out. We're talking about cartomizers.


Are the hard tip 510 cartomizers any better? I bought these because everybody said they were better...

Clouds of Vapor has LR 510 Cartos. They're hard tipped, but not glued.

510 Low Resistance BlackCartomizers

 

[mcl5000]

Ah, I see. Do they work better?


edit - I can't imagine everybody has this experience with the soft tipped ones, considering some people love them...

 

[SalientOrange]

Ah, I see. Do they work better?


edit - I can't imagine everybody has this experience with the soft tipped ones, considering some people love them...

Hopefully I'll be able to test one against a standard carto today. I'll let you know how it goes. Are you also using them on your Little Chuck?

 

[o4_srt]

From my experience:

The soft tip cartos measure between 3.2 and 3.4 ohms of resistance.

A standard 510 atty measures around 2.6 ohms resistance.

Standard atty will heat up quicker, and to a higher temperature than a carto.

That being said, the cartos performance was mediocre at 3.7 volts, but at 5 volts, they ROCK.

Not sure on the resistance of the hard-tip cartos, but if they are around the soft-tips, performance will be about the same.

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

Hey all - I just got some rubber tip cartomizers and they really aren't performing the way I was hoping. It seems like they take forever to heat up. I'll give a 10 second drag and get basically nothing, but then the next drag is pretty good.

Is this how these work? The KR808 cartomizers heat up right away.

I've also read that these things "roar", and I'm hardly getting any noise out of them. Not that I care, but I'm wondering if I just have a bad batch or something?

Thanks.

Not all cartomizers are created equal (or by the same manufacturer). I get mine from HealthCabin and they do sizzle and pop. There are some basic rules that apply to all atomizers. It's not just about heat it's also about air flow. The 510's cartomizers start off with virtually no resistance at all. Really great air flow and I think that has a lot to do with their performance. Hold them up to the light and see if you can see through them. If not, you may want to try running a paperclip them them to see if there's a blockage or alignment issue.

Also, check the two holes on the bottom to look for alightment issues.

The 510 cartomizers turned me around. So, check with your vender to see where he's getting his supply. Maybe try another vender. Also, were they prefilled or did you buy blanks? It might be a filling issue.

--Prof Daffy

 

[mcl5000]

It might be a filling issue.

Nah, I don't think so. I have a lot of experience with KR cartomizers, and these are essentially the same thing as far as filling goes. I think it just has to do with the resistance.

I'm not ruling out filling issues, but I feel like I've been doing this long enough to know when I'm doing something wrong.




Salient - no, I haven't tried them on my Chuck yet. I broke the switch and need to get to the post office.

 

[SalientOrange]

Ok mcl,

I loaded an LR 510 carto (from Clouds of Vapor) with Atomic Cinnacide yesterday and hooked it up to my Little Chuck and my eGo. Good news and bad news.

Disclaimer: I am very green in the world of cartos. I know there are hundreds of pages in this forum which discuss them, and I have only read a handfull. If bad info and/or user error are present in my report, feel free to point it out. This should not be construed as a "review" of any suppliers product.

Good News:
You WILL NOT have the problem you described in the OP. These things get hot quickly and deliver a big punch. I was able to take "quick" little draws and get quite a good bit of TH and vapor. Longer draws produce huge TH and vapor.

Bad News:
I'm having some issues with flavor. Even with a full carto, I'm getting a nasty burnt taste.

Neutral News:
@ 3.7 volts, this carto is providing a pretty "hot vape".

There is a little (silicone?) piece between the plastic tip and the carto filler. It came out when I removed the tip, but I have no clue what it's for.

These LR cartos have the "brass?" colored threading, not the silver. I remember reading that this may serve as an indicator of who the manufacturer is. The standard 510 cartos from the same vendor have the silver colored threading.


So, that's my experience so far. Hope it helps.

 

[vapin_2tha_max]

The brass threaded cartos are made by SLB and the silver/aluminum threaded ones are from Boge. The silicone piece sits in between the filling and the rubber top and is supposed to keep juice from getting in your mouth...which is not a problem as long as you don't overfill the carto to begin with. Yes you will lose a considerable amount of flavor using a carto but that's because the coil is heating up a "sock" soaked with the liquid v.s. an atty's coil heating up the liquid direct.

 

[SalientOrange]

The brass threaded cartos are made by SLB and the silver/aluminum threaded ones are from Boge.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Yes you will lose a considerable amount of flavor using a carto but that's because the coil is heating up a "sock" soaked with the liquid v.s. an atty's coil heating up the liquid direct.

I understand and expect a loss of flavor. It's the presence of a disgusting new car exhaust flavor that is troubling me. I don't want to derail the thread trying to figure it out, unless the OP sees fit. I know there is info on bad tasting cartos, in abundance, on the board already

 

[Apophis]

The brass threaded cartos are made by SLB and the silver/aluminum threaded ones are from Boge. The silicone piece sits in between the filling and the rubber top and is supposed to keep juice from getting in your mouth...which is not a problem as long as you don't overfill the carto to begin with. Yes you will lose a considerable amount of flavor using a carto but that's because the coil is heating up a "sock" soaked with the liquid v.s. an atty's coil heating up the liquid direct.

I just bought cartos from nhaler and they are thick soft tip with no silicone washer and silver threads. So I guess these are Boge cartos then. I know they work great for me so far. I've been vaping for a few hours on one fill using 24mg Smilin' Special Menthol from V4L (my fave flavor) and it rocks.

 

[mcl5000]

Sorry to necro this thread - was on vacation for a few days.

So, that's my experience so far. Hope it helps.

Thanks for the input. Sounds like they have their ups and downs, too.


But anyway, I tried out another one of the original rubber tip cartos I got (same box, mind you), and this one heats up as I would expect. I'm thinking maybe the first two I tried are bad, because this one is infinitely better, and I'm loving it.

I'm hoping the rest of them are like this one, and not like the first two I tried.

 

[Caddyman]

I found a semi similar problem with the blank boge(silver tip) cartos (soft rubber tips)

on an ego

filled them full and tried to vape and got little to nothing, so disappointed.

I read a bit and it seems that they ned to kind of "soak" once they are filled to get everything wicked up right. So i let them sit overnight, capped, and filled, and now they are vaping pretty good. I think i am going to grab some lr cartos from clouds, i love my lr atty's

 

[tristessa363]

There's a box of LR 510 cartomizers about 5 feet away from me on my friend/coworker's desk...I'll try to weasel one out of her.

Said coworker speaking. I was really happy with the throat hit/vapor/flavor with the LR carto/ USB passthru combo. However, after a few days it started tasting like (burnt) crap with a really hard draw. I used the same juice in a regular (Boge/silver-threaded?) carto for over a week with no problems. This LR carto is brass threaded, which leads me to believe it is SLB, and I've read several posts that claim similar difficulties with this type...